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Does anyone have some good drills for a junior golfer (boy, age 10) to help with maintaining spine angle throughout the swing (particularly on the downswing)?  What are some major causes of not maintaining it (not skilled enough? not strong enough? just not doing it?)?

 

My junior seems to get all the way to the top of the backswing (P4), but somewhere in the transition back down to P5 and by P6 (club last parallel) he crunches up like a curved piece of macaroni.

 

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At the risk of feeling the wrath of GolfWRX against S&T this is probably what will help your youngin'.  Probably need to get him more 'on top' of the ball as well... he's going to hit hooks and blocks coming that far inside.

 

5 mins on the Stack & Tilt golf swing| Golf Tips | Lesson 54 - YouTube

 

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1 hour ago, leezer99 said:

At the risk of feeling the wrath of GolfWRX against S&T this is probably what will help your youngin'.  Probably need to get him more 'on top' of the ball as well... he's going to hit hooks and blocks coming that far inside.

 

5 mins on the Stack & Tilt golf swing| Golf Tips | Lesson 54 - YouTube

 


Yes, not advocating S&T per se, but he definitely is too far inside. Had some PM’s from other members also so thanks to everyone for some ideas.

 

For those who asked, here’s a full video.

 

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10 minutes ago, heavy_hitter said:

He is doing this to create more power.


Agree, that is most likely what his mind is thinking. It’s not working though. Distances are short. Example: 5-iron carry is 100 yards but trajectory looks good to my naked eye (no actual launch monitor data on it).  
 

The reality is he just may be “slow” swinger. Speed Sticks didn’t help him much and induced a “hit it” vs “swing” mentality IMHO. And certainly, his technique could use some tweaking such as not coming from so far inside and perhaps a better turn.

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38 minutes ago, wildcatden said:


Agree, that is most likely what his mind is thinking. It’s not working though. Distances are short. Example: 5-iron carry is 100 yards but trajectory looks good to my naked eye (no actual launch monitor data on it).  
 

The reality is he just may be “slow” swinger. Speed Sticks didn’t help him much and induced a “hit it” vs “swing” mentality IMHO. And certainly, his technique could use some tweaking such as not coming from so far inside and perhaps a better turn.

I’d love to hear more explanations from the experienced parents here. I’m pretty sure at one point their kids jumped, crunched, dipped, and/or flipped. 
 

My kid dips his head a lot.

 

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On 1/4/2021 at 1:07 PM, wildcatden said:


Agree, that is most likely what his mind is thinking. It’s not working though. Distances are short. Example: 5-iron carry is 100 yards but trajectory looks good to my naked eye (no actual launch monitor data on it).  
 

The reality is he just may be “slow” swinger. Speed Sticks didn’t help him much and induced a “hit it” vs “swing” mentality IMHO. And certainly, his technique could use some tweaking such as not coming from so far inside and perhaps a better turn.

 

Just my opinion, speed stick don't work for the junior golfer until after puberty.  More important to them is upper body strength.  Push Ups, Pullups, then core.

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On 1/4/2021 at 10:52 AM, Kcct82 said:

I’d love to hear more explanations from the experienced parents here. I’m pretty sure at one point their kids jumped, crunched, dipped, and/or flipped. 
 

My kid dips his head a lot.

 

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Thats a solid impact position there.  Reminds me of Fowler.  My son does all those things as well.  Working most on the flip and more rotation, but hopefully all the bad things go away as he gets bigger and stronger.  Cant wait for the day he can keep his right heel planted longer in the DS.

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3 minutes ago, kekoa said:

Thats a solid impact position there.  Reminds me of Fowler.  My son does all those things as well.  Working most on the flip and more rotation, but hopefully all the bad things go away as he gets bigger and stronger.  Cant wait for the day he can keep his right heel planted longer in the DS.

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On 1/4/2021 at 1:52 PM, Kcct82 said:

I’d love to hear more explanations from the experienced parents here. I’m pretty sure at one point their kids jumped, crunched, dipped, and/or flipped. 
 

My kid dips his head a lot.

 

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My kid does the same thing.  Not an issue until he occasionally dips the entire body.  At 15 his coach is working on getting his neck and head angle up through lifting his chin more at address.

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12 minutes ago, kekoa said:

Thats a solid impact position there.  Reminds me of Fowler.  My son does all those things as well.  Working most on the flip and more rotation, but hopefully all the bad things go away as he gets bigger and stronger.  Cant wait for the day he can keep his right heel planted longer in the DS.

Hey thanks Kekoa, kinda “glad” to know that even a top junior golfer like your kid struggles with some of the same things. This really helps me adjust my expectations for my 8 year old. 

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On 1/11/2021 at 8:04 PM, khuang05 said:

In his setup, is he balancing on top of his toes? When you setup with all your weight on your toes you will always have a tendency to scrunch up and fall backwards as your body naturally wants to maintain balance. If he is, I would suggest him to stand a tab bit closer to the ball at setup, and fix his posture.

 

He has a great swing for his age,

 

 


He says more to balls of feet, so we’ll check that out this week. Face on view shows he slides too far left in transition which is also causing sequence issues. 
 

Right now, we are working on some professional advice and drills to correct this. Thanks for your input. 

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