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I had been thinking about adding about 2 inches to my new Driver(Callaway) that will come in the New Year. I have had this on my mind before Bryson D. went down this road. The only thing is I will need the tour cog in order to have the adjustment I think I will need. I played a 48 inch driver for a few months back years ago. I liked it and don't know why I went away from the set up. I also just listen to the Ep. 150 of the fitting room and liked what I heard during the podcast. If your thinking about doing this give it a listen. 

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Well I play 46.25 in my g400 and have had a 46.5” Fubuki K 60x built in advance with a 410 tip

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45 to 45.5 seems to be where i have the most success. Shorter shafts don't seem to add accuracy for me, and longer shafts it's negligeable distance gains for what i lose in accuracy

 

So no , will stick

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I’m building up a 47” + driver to see what the effects are for me.  My main question so far is the shaft “stiffness.” I have seen advice saying go slightly softer in flex if you go lighter in head weight, but I have also seen it recommended to go with the same flex, but with more tipping.  As with everything in golf, I imagine that it simply “depends.”

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Razr Fit 12° w/VS Voodoo 
Epic Flash 16° w/Rogue M•AX
X Forged UT 18° & 22° w/PX
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3 minutes ago, Dan Drake said:

I’m building up a 47” + driver to see what the effects are for me.  My main question so far is the shaft “stiffness.” I have seen advice saying go slightly softer in flex if you go lighter in head weight, but I have also seen it recommended to go with the same flex, but with more tipping.  As with everything in golf, I imagine that it simply “depends.”

You are going to be loooooong ... 425 vs 400 shootout will be fun for me, perhaps against you at Windswept pro 

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Srixon ZX7 6 - PW PX Catalyst 100 6.5 
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16 minutes ago, cardoustie said:

You are going to be loooooong ... 425 vs 400 shootout will be fun for me, perhaps against you at Windswept pro 

Lol, that would be the PERFECT place to give something like this its coming out party!  I’ve got an Adams 9032 LD head at 7.5 to start with, now I just have to guesstimate a shaft that is reasonably close to my needs.  

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Apex Pro '19 5-A w/PX
X Forged Jaws 53, 59, 64 w/PX
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1 hour ago, Dan Drake said:

I’m building up a 47” + driver to see what the effects are for me.  My main question so far is the shaft “stiffness.” I have seen advice saying go slightly softer in flex if you go lighter in head weight, but I have also seen it recommended to go with the same flex, but with more tipping.  As with everything in golf, I imagine that it simply “depends.”

I'm going with a factory build so we can get the head weight where I need it to be, also might go with a stiffer shaft. 

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3 hours ago, MtlJeff said:

45 to 45.5 seems to be where i have the most success. Shorter shafts don't seem to add accuracy for me, and longer shafts it's negligeable distance gains for what i lose in accuracy

 

So no , will stick


I noticed this with shorter shafts also, I hit them the same amount sideways as 45”. 
 

I haven’t experimented with anything longer yet, but I’m going to give it a go this spring. 

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36 minutes ago, Scooterboy59 said:

I'm going with a factory build so we can get the head weight where I need it to be, also might go with a stiffer shaft. 

This build, as with virtually all of mine, is a proof of concept.  It will be my 2nd one, as the first one was truly a Frankenstein.  Heck, I didn’t even spend money on the right grip for that one!  
 

Also, good suggestion on the podcast.  As a Callaway staffer, I’m very interested in what they will offer for those of us looking to go down this route.  Hopefully this build will let me know exactly what to order when that time comes.

Epic MAX LS 8° w/AD BB

Razr Fit 12° w/VS Voodoo 
Epic Flash 16° w/Rogue M•AX
X Forged UT 18° & 22° w/PX
Apex Pro '19 5-A w/PX
X Forged Jaws 53, 59, 64 w/PX
White Hot #5 Center Shafted
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I hate being the negative one in the room but this topic drives me crazy... im just respectfully stating my opinion no true hate as if i wanted anyone doing this to die lol just saying that  i think its unnecessary and at the same time i tell myself screw you who are you to tell them what to play 😆 do i have issues?

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1 hour ago, ALIF said:

I’m playing driver at 47.25 now. Extended shaft by 2 inches. Longer of the tee and don’t really notice less accurate.

Just went full Bryson 48” in a G410 and thought I was going to have an accuracy issue, this is why I was looking for a change. I’ve Definitely  Improved that and think I’m able to time the longer club better, not letting it get behind the body on the down swing. I’m more patient in transition. An extra 10 yards helps to. 

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I know this works for some, but I'm definitely *not* going to try this.  I've been down this road, it doesn't end well for me.  My already less than ideal dispersion increases with no increase in distance.

 

If anything, I may take my driver down to 43".  

 

And the disclaimer:  my swingspeed hits its maximum at somewhere around 43.5" or lower.  I can add length all I want and get nothing added.  In the fitting where this was illustrated, I actually lost speed going from 43" and 43.25" to 44.125".  My above comment should be taken with that in mind...

 

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Driver: Original One 11.5* (tuned down), NV75 X -or- SpeedZone 10.5*, Aldila ProtoPype 80S, <44" TBD

3w: King LTD, Aldila RIP Beta 90 X -or- TM Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 X
Hybrid:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour 2h or 3h, NV105 S -or- RIP Alpha 105 S

Irons grab bag:  3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4; 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 2-PW Golden Ram Vibration Matched, RIP Tour 115 R
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, SteelFiber i125 S -or- Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; PM Grind 19 58* -or- Wilson Staff PMP 58*, Dynamic S
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34" -or- Cleveland Huntington Beach #1, 34.5" -or- Golden Ram TW Custom, 34"
Balls: Wilson Staff Duo Professional, TaylorMade TP5

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18 hours ago, Scooterboy59 said:

I played a 48-inch driver for a few months back years ago. I liked it and don't know why I went away from the set up.

I played a 48-inch persimmon-headed driver for a few months back around 1980. The original shaft snapped off a foot above the head on a routine tee shot. Just for fun, I had the clubsmith leave the shaft at 48 inches. (Standard for era was ~ 43.5 inches).

 

I know why I went away. The good news: I hit the ball a long way. The bad news: I sometimes hit the ball deep into the treeline. About three times a round I would have to chip sideways back to the fairway... providing I could find the ball. At the end of the season I got it trimmed back to standard length.

 

Fast forward to this century...  My Rogue 4W has a 42.75" shaft (std). For shots off the deck, I choke down a half inch. This seems to give me straighter shots than holding it at full length. (With chokedown I get a slight draw from a closed stance... full length tends to be pull).

 

On my driver, I will try Howard's DIY fitting. It may be an inch too long for me. 

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Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5°, set 9.5°; weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip

Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

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     * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind replaced MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

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If accuracy is not the issue, definitely the longer the better. 

Driver: Taylormade SIM, 8 degrees, VA Composite Drago 75 X-Stiff

3W: Taylormade M5 14 degrees, VA Composite Drago 75 X-Stiff

Hybrids: Titleist 915H (3-5H), Ping G30 (6H)Project X 6.0 Flighted shafts

Irons: Titleist 710 AP1 (7-P), Project X 6.0 Flighted shafts

Wedges: Bridgestone J33 (50,56,60), Project X 6.0 Flighted shafts

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