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3 hours ago, hartman29 said:

80 gram titanium sole and weight screw in the back?  
 

How freaking high are some people going to be able to hit this thing?


That is the ticket for really sending it with a fairway wood though. Get the CG down really low and it will launch higher and spin less. I also wouldn't be surprised if putting the weight back was meant to offset possibly shrinking the front to back length of the head since the SIM is pretty big. 

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The new head is smaller and I hear flatter too

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20 hours ago, Valtiel said:


That is the ticket for really sending it with a fairway wood though. Get the CG down really low and it will launch higher and spin less. I also wouldn't be surprised if putting the weight back was meant to offset possibly shrinking the front to back length of the head since the SIM is pretty big. 

 

I think you're probably right. Sounds like the SIM2 Ti is going to be a little smaller than SIM Ti.

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20 hours ago, Valtiel said:


That is the ticket for really sending it with a fairway wood though. Get the CG down really low and it will launch higher and spin less. I also wouldn't be surprised if putting the weight back was meant to offset possibly shrinking the front to back length of the head since the SIM is pretty big. 

Makes a lot of sense to me.  

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On 1/5/2021 at 11:09 PM, Valtiel said:


That is the ticket for really sending it with a fairway wood though. Get the CG down really low and it will launch higher and spin less. I also wouldn't be surprised if putting the weight back was meant to offset possibly shrinking the front to back length of the head since the SIM is pretty big. 

The sim2 fwy design excites me almost as much as the sim driver design did last year. 

 

I'm shafting up a ventus blue for testing as soon as the test heads arrive at retailers. 

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On 1/3/2021 at 1:08 PM, halfsumo said:

We can only hope. Would be great if they could update their loft sleeve to have a flatter setting, I think they are falling way behind the industry in this regard, but they have so much product out in the wild, people would probably go crazy if their shafts wouldn't work in the new heads. I don't like that the only way to get a flatter fairway/hybrid from Taylormade is to pay $$$$ for a tour issue head. Other OEMs you can just adjust with a few clicks of the wrench. 

Callaway offers 2 degrees flat on their glued hybrids.

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On 1/5/2021 at 5:41 PM, Red4282 said:

Haha and its called onset

In woods called face progression

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1 hour ago, getitdaily said:

Twist face still in sim2 fairways?

 

Yes

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7 minutes ago, tbone18 said:

13 is retail.

That can be adjusted higher by 0.75* or 1.5*, correct?

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27 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

Hmm. Never paid it much attention, but the sim fwy looks hugely closed and I think a lot has to do with twistface. My 17 m2 looks so square compared to sim. Was really excited about sim2 in the fairways.  May have to temper that excitement a bit

Unfortunately with Taylormade, you have to pick the head. Their QA isn't the best.  In addition, the decal on top of the head is all over the place, some crooked, some towards the toe and some heel.  

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3 hours ago, getitdaily said:

Hmm. Never paid it much attention, but the sim fwy looks hugely closed and I think a lot has to do with twistface. My 17 m2 looks so square compared to sim. Was really excited about sim2 in the fairways.  May have to temper that excitement a bit


Typically, TwistFace would make a club look more open, because the toe slightly more lofted and open so it can correct a shut face, defending toe hit. Contrast with the heel which is more closed and de-lofted to counteract an open-faced upward heel strike.

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On 1/2/2021 at 10:09 AM, getair23 said:

Non-adjustable I assume?

I’ve seen them, sim is adjustable, max doesn’t appear to be. 

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4 hours ago, getitdaily said:

Hmm. Never paid it much attention, but the sim fwy looks hugely closed and I think a lot has to do with twistface. My 17 m2 looks so square compared to sim. Was really excited about sim2 in the fairways.  May have to temper that excitement a bit


I think you probably just found some really closed ones, which are common in big box stores. I've put down half a dozen SIM 3-woods set neutral and I definitely saw at least +/- 3* in terms of face angle. A couple have sat open, most seemed to sit slightly to moderately closed. 

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Anyone know how many CCs the heads will be?  I'm hoping the max stays 180+

 

 

 

This thread needs more pics …Sim Max from DJ's bag and some conforming pics from Equipment Junkie

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