Hitting in OB, the best options and the penalities

[swagee]

12 hours ago, Sawgrass said:

Not so, but it may not matter as the procedure for dealing with a lost ball is the same as dealing with an out of bounds ball.  For the record, who owns the property is irrelevant in terms of whether a ball is OB or not.  A ball is only OB if the Committee has marked the area OB, and the Committee is not obligated to mark other owner's property as OB.  No OB line?  Find it and play it if you like according to the rules of golf (but risk violating trespassing laws).

 

As examples, sometimes you'll find municipally-owned land adjacent to a course unmarked for OB, and while the entire Pacific Ocean left of the fairway of #18 at Pebble Beach is most certainly not owned by PB's fine members, a ball you find there remains legally playable -- say during the "suck the water back" phase of a tsunami.  (That's an important distinction to for people who enjoy playing in challenging conditions!)

Thx, mate. 
Even tho u are correct in ur explanation, I think u missed the mark on what I wrote. 
It was an answer to someone’s question regarding the “rationale” behind OB vs. Hazards. I mentioned the neighbor’s yard only as an example of what could be a possible “rationale.” 
 

 

[nsxguy]

On 1/15/2021 at 3:58 AM, swagee said:

OB is like hitting a ball into a NEIGHBOR’s yard. U can’t climb the fence or go thru ur neighbor’s house to play it; hence, u have to hit it again from the previous spot. Still a 1 stroke penalty, but since u have to hit it again from the same spot with zero distance gain, it is equal a 2 stroke penalty if u can drop at the point where ur ball crosses the fence. 
 

Hazard is like hitting a ball into a bush in YOUR yard. Since the bush is in YOUR yard, u can still try to look for it and play from there if playable. If not, then u can just drop it next to the bush for 1 stroke penalty.

 

An OB is typically marked with either WHITE stakes/lines, or a physical fence. A ball lost in an UNMARKED area is also considered OB since there’s a hypothetical chance that it goes to the neighbor’s yard. 
 

A hazard are is marked with RED/YELLOW stakes/lines. 
 

 

 

On 1/15/2021 at 11:38 PM, swagee said:

Thx, mate. 
Even tho u are correct in ur explanation, I think u missed the mark on what I wrote. 
It was an answer to someone’s question regarding the “rationale” behind OB vs. Hazards. I mentioned the neighbor’s yard only as an example of what could be a possible “rationale.” 
 

 

 

Actually the first 2 paragraphs were fairly accurate re: your "rationale"/analogies for what OB is "like". Well, except for using the word "hazard".

 

As well, even if it IS your yard, it still is possible, even likely, the ball is OB. So no, you can't just "drop it out of the bush for 1 stroke".

 

Your 3rd paragraph, the only one sawgrass was responding to is simply incorrect; at least the part about an unmarked area being considered OB.

 

As is your use of the word "hazard". There haven't been any hazards in 2 years, as was explained earlier in the thread.

 

You're in the "Rules" forum. Words, especially here, matter.