Project X Smoke IM10?

[dlow206]

Anyone know anything about these or have one in hand?

 

https://www.truetemper.com/products/hzrdus-smoke-im10/

[Rig14Port]

interesting. I wonder if this is what they will be offering stock in the Epic Speed line from Cally so it's just been added to the PX site. 

[benthegolfer]

I originally heard that these were going to be exclusive to Callaway but now it appears they are coming to market if they have mid/low models including TX flexes. I doubt that would be Callaway only. 

[Rig14Port]

per today's Cally release, looks like it will be a stock shaft in the Epic Max/Speed. I'm sure there will be some TX offerings out of the line but appears to be a stock shaft first and foremost. If it's anything like the stock RDX shafts it may lack that high-end, tour caliber feel that I thought the previous HZRDUS lines delivered. 

[Red4282]

Ohhh fishing buzzwords have made their way to golf now

[TrueTemper]

IM10 is the first carbon fiber to break 1,000 Ksi tensile strength, which allows us to use thinner walls and still make stiff and durable structures.  Think of this as a next generation HZRDUS T1100.

 

We actually had intended to launch it last year but as you all know the golf industry has been booming and we were fully booked so we had to delay the launch.  They will be heading out to Tour in the desert on Monday and to the aftermarket shortly there after.

 

DB

[dlow206]

2 hours ago, TrueTemper said:

IM10 is the first carbon fiber to break 1,000 Ksi tensile strength, which allows us to use thinner walls and still make stiff and durable structures.  Think of this as a next generation HZRDUS T1100.

 

We actually had intended to launch it last year but as you all know the golf industry has been booming and we were fully booked so we had to delay the launch.  They will be heading out to Tour in the desert on Monday and to the aftermarket shortly there after.

 

DB

Thanks, is there a different OEM (callaway) version vs. aftermarket version?

[ForTourUseOnly]

1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

Thanks, is there a different OEM (callaway) version vs. aftermarket version?

Check out the link in the first post the stock Callaway one is the Mid launch and the aftermarket tour is the lower launch which is counterbalanced. Interested to see this one. 

[dlow206]

2 hours ago, ForTourUseOnly said:

Check out the link in the first post the stock Callaway one is the Mid launch and the aftermarket tour is the lower launch which is counterbalanced. Interested to see this one. 

Yeah, I know the Callaway one is a mid-launch, but wasn't sure if the OEM Callaway shaft is the same as the aftermarket mid-launch shaft.

 

EDIT: The reason I ask is because Golf Works shows this shaft line to be a $300 shaft

 

https://www.golfworks.com/project-x-hzrdus-smoke-im10-graphite-wood-shafts/p/tt0161/

Edited January 16, 2021 by dlow206

[dlow206]

This description makes it sound like a unicorn shaft:

 

iM10the the first Project X shaft to feature Hexcel's incredibly unique iM10 carbon fiber, a very high modulus (stiff) and very high strength carbon fiber allowing for new possibilities in golf shaft design. Because of this, iM10 delivers the stability expected from the lowest launching Tour shafts, but in a playable mid launch/spin design that is available in multiple weights and flexes - providing a variety of options to best suit your game.

[03trdblack]

The green lettering feels a little confusing since I associate the smoke green and hulk shaft as the lowest launch and stiffest profiles that they offer. Doesn't sound like this shaft is going to be like that. 

[jds101086]

47 minutes ago, 03trdblack said:

The green lettering feels a little confusing since I associate the smoke green and hulk shaft as the lowest launch and stiffest profiles that they offer. Doesn't sound like this shaft is going to be like that. 

Agreed. This should be a 'blue' or even 'red' profile. It's great having choices but Project X is getting pretty muddy with their naming and colors.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

8 hours ago, Rig14Port said:

per today's Cally release, looks like it will be a stock shaft in the Epic Max/Speed. I'm sure there will be some TX offerings out of the line but appears to be a stock shaft first and foremost. If it's anything like the stock RDX shafts it may lack that high-end, tour caliber feel that I thought the previous HZRDUS lines delivered. 

Disagree. Finding the right flex is key, even with the stock RDX.

[dlow206]

Anyone hit this shaft yet?

[Rig14Port]

11 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Anyone hit this shaft yet?

demoed the stock Cally Mid Spin one last week. Definitely doesn't belong in the Smoke Green family IMO. The torque is very high on the 60X at 3.7. Does have a much smoother feel than than Smoke green but didn't really feel loose. Spin numbers were pretty low for a mid spin shaft.. maybe 300-400 higher than my Smoke Green 60X. Would love to get my hands on the Low Spin version but not going to be paying aftermarket money for this line. This shaft will fit a wide variety of golfers as a good performing and feeling stock option. 

[autronicdsm]

I love how these new materials are stronger, stiffer and more durable... yet we keep getting shafts that weigh the same 😁

[Bridges]

I am looking at this shaft in a new Callaway Epic Speed driver. It appears only the mid launch version is available from Callaway and I cannot find the low version available aftermarket or as a stock offering. I am wondering if this is an attempt to make a made for shaft seem like its not a made for shaft. I wonder if the low launch version will end up as the stock offering in a yet to be released driver and then it will magically appear on the Golfworks at an inflated price. I am not wearing a tin foil hat and do not have an axe to grind with anybody, just searching for knowledge. 

[Red4282]

41 minutes ago, Bridges said:

I am looking at this shaft in a new Callaway Epic Speed driver. It appears only the mid launch version is available from Callaway and I cannot find the low version available aftermarket or as a stock offering. I am wondering if this is an attempt to make a made for shaft seem like its not a made for shaft. I wonder if the low launch version will end up as the stock offering in a yet to be released driver and then it will magically appear on the Golfworks at an inflated price. I am not wearing a tin foil hat and do not have an axe to grind with anybody, just searching for knowledge. 

Of course it is... you hit the nail on the head

[Rig14Port]

It's this years HZRDUS T800 vs HZRDUS T1100 play from Cally a few years back

 

Edited February 3, 2021 by Rig14Port

[juggernaut0629]

I just spoke with callaway about availability of the counterbalanced low spin Im 2 days ago. They offer the mid launch version as of now. The CB " could become available at a later date, but not a guarantee"

[odshot68]

I ordered up a 60x in new cally speed 4 wood. Yes I prefer lighter weight in it. 

[sociojeje]

ordered IM10 50 6.0 Always wanted to use a lighter shaft for driver and it seems to be a shaft for the scheme. 

[bcflyguy1]

On 1/15/2021 at 8:28 PM, 03trdblack said:

The green lettering feels a little confusing since I associate the smoke green and hulk shaft as the lowest launch and stiffest profiles that they offer. Doesn't sound like this shaft is going to be like that. 

The low launch version of this shaft will likely be what you describe (think HZRDUS T1100 and Hulk PVD but with different raw materials), but agree that the Mid version found in the Epic woods likely is more of a "soft mid" design not unlike Smoke Yellow just executed with different raw materials.

[PhlashPhace]

15 minutes ago, bcflyguy1 said:

The low launch version of this shaft will likely be what you describe (think HZRDUS T1100 and Hulk PVD but with different raw materials), but agree that the Mid version found in the Epic woods likely is more of a "soft mid" design not unlike Smoke Yellow just executed with different raw materials.

I've hit both and the Low is basically just an upgraded version of the T1100.  I wouldn't call the Mid a Smoke yellow because it isn't counterbalanced and it's higher launching.  I think the Mid would be more like a HZRDUS Smoke Red (if that existed).  The iM10 Low is a solid shaft but I think it's going to be hard for people to comprehend that it is a very stiff low launching shaft when it looks exactly like a loose mid launch stock shaft.

[bcflyguy1]

6 minutes ago, PhlashPhace said:

I've hit both and the Low is basically just an upgraded version of the T1100.  I wouldn't call the Mid a Smoke yellow because it isn't counterbalanced and it's higher launching.  I think the Mid would be more like a HZRDUS Smoke Red (if that existed).  The iM10 Low is a solid shaft but I think it's going to be hard for people to comprehend that it is a very stiff low launching shaft when it looks exactly like a loose mid launch stock shaft.

That's quite possible. I've inquired everywhere I can think of for an EI curve on both the Mid and Low and have gotten nowhere.

[PhlashPhace]

3 hours ago, bcflyguy1 said:

That's quite possible. I've inquired everywhere I can think of for an EI curve on both the Mid and Low and have gotten nowhere.

The curve of the Low is almost identical to the T1100.  I think True Temper has actually called it T1100 Version 2.

 

I'm not a fit for the Mid so I didn't hit a ton of shots with it but it definitely spins more and launches higher than the yellow.  I hate to compare it to the T800 because the curves are going to be different but the end results are similar.  To me personally the Mid felt like a little looser Smoke Black with a more active tip.

Edited March 9, 2021 by PhlashPhace

[Yrckllt]

I hit this shaft (60g 6.5 MID) in 3 different Cally heads today (my Mav SZ / Max LS / Speed) and here's my two cents :

 

- I found an overall feel comparable to Smoke Yellow (my current gamer / 60g 6.5) but easier to launch. Although not counterbalanced, I did not notice much difference in swingweight.

- Definitely don't agree with previous posts saying this shaft is loose. Ok, it's not a piece of rebar, but in my opinion it is not a whippy shaft at all. 

- I also tested the MMT 60X from the Cally fitting cart (same 3 heads) and this one definitely felt loose.

 

I will do some more testing but I was very pleased with the results I got today and at the moment, I'm planning to get this shaft from Callaway to put in my Mav SZ. 

I give about zero fucks to the fact that it may be an OEM only shaft or whatever as it gave me the numbers I was looking for. 

I would however say I didn't like the way it looked at all. 

 

 

[jeffrey r]

Stock shaft or not, this is a solid shaft.  I was killing it the other day in my Epic Max, straight and long.  It is no low launch/low spin monster, but I am sure that is by design as a stock shaft.  This should fit a wide range of golfers, but I do think it leans lower spin with a mid launch.  Definitely worth a look if you are going Callaway Epic this season.

[Yrckllt]

On 3/17/2021 at 7:35 PM, Yrckllt said:

I hit this shaft (60g 6.5 MID) in 3 different Cally heads today (my Mav SZ / Max LS / Speed) and here's my two cents :

 

- I found an overall feel comparable to Smoke Yellow (my current gamer / 60g 6.5) but easier to launch. Although not counterbalanced, I did not notice much difference in swingweight.

- Definitely don't agree with previous posts saying this shaft is loose. Ok, it's not a piece of rebar, but in my opinion it is not a whippy shaft at all. 

- I also tested the MMT 60X from the Cally fitting cart (same 3 heads) and this one definitely felt loose.

 

I will do some more testing but I was very pleased with the results I got today and at the moment, I'm planning to get this shaft from Callaway to put in my Mav SZ. 

I give about zero fucks to the fact that it may be an OEM only shaft or whatever as it gave me the numbers I was looking for. 

I would however say I didn't like the way it looked at all. 

 

 

I went ahead and purchased this shaft to play in my Mavrik SZ. I'm completely in love with that thing, I hit it so well.

And because it's relatively inexpensive I ordered its 70g brother (45,5 inches, no tipping) from Callaway and will have it installed in my SIM titanium 3 wood to replace the HZRDUS Smoke Black 70g 6.5 that I'm playing right now. 

[Skhacker]

Such a good stock shaft. I've recently switched to lighter driver shafts (Ventus Red 5s, 1K Pro White 50TX), and love the feel of this one. I picked up an Epic Speed with this in the 50 series 6.0 and really enjoy it. My cruising speed is about 108-110 and can get to 115 if I'm really loose and go after it, and this shaft handles it no problem. Nice and stable and smooth with any swing I can put on it.