Autoflex at 95% discount?

[JoelKD]

Aldila ascent in R-40 is 48g I put sim 8° to 6° And built it 46.75 inches and D1.5 sw. removed 10g head weight to 189g and it works.  Picked up 7-8 mph CHS and 30-40 yards total distance.  It works.

[tngolfer1976]

How would you say the tip section of this shaft feels is it really stable just trying to get a feel for how the shaft kicks.

[vakaviti]

Anyone tried this out? 

 

https://www.ustmamiya.com/golf-shafts/brands/quantum-purple/quantum-purple/

 

52gram X flex 

[Howard_Jones]

A good and stable low priced sub 50 gram shaft is Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45 series, where the S flex at 48 grams is the strongest. Ive used it for elite players in the 105 mph range, so if a 110-115 mph player seeks a soft but stable option, where swing tech is used more than power, this shaft would be a option to try. 

[LandOfBoz]

So I built an experimental driver with my LTD head and the NVS ladies shaft at 45". This thing is goofy to swing. Surprisingly I can hit it quite well, however it is getting 4k+ spin rate. I don't think it will make the bag, but it has served well as a training aid at the range as it is almost like an orange whip. 

Edited April 2, 2021 by LandOfBoz

[Qegurezi]

On 2/16/2021 at 1:58 PM, MysteryV said:

So it's been a hectic couple weeks with work, but finally got out to give it a couple swings.  Truth be told, I only swung it 5 or 10 times as I didn't have much time, and had a brand new TSi3 w/ Tensei White 1k TX I wanted to get some swings in with before playing this weekend.

 

I'll give it a more proper go when I have a bit more time, but the C. Kua did not feel nearly as good as the AF.  It definitely isn't as flexible on the waggle test, and felt a bit firmer all around.

 

The results were tough to decipher.  It was a high, straight flight as you'd expect, but in the limited balls I hit, I wasn't seeing the same distance.  The 46.5" (E0 SW) TSi3 however was about the same distance for me as my Mavrik TD Autoflex was (though the ball speeds were a bit lower).

 

I'll do a more proper test soon and post results.

 

This has gone awfully quiet - results that bad?

[MysteryV]

On 4/2/2021 at 3:56 PM, Qegurezi said:

 

This has gone awfully quiet - results that bad?

 

Haha - no - not all.  I just went the opposite direction with a new TSi3 / Tensei 1k 60TX combo and have put 100% of my focus there.

 

The initial results were good - just lost focus for me.  I should probably put the shafts up on BST - but still hope to get around to it again.

 

 

[V series]

On 3/1/2021 at 2:32 AM, JoelKD said:

Aldila ascent in R-40 is 48g I put sim 8° to 6° And built it 46.75 inches and D1.5 sw. removed 10g head weight to 189g and it works.  Picked up 7-8 mph CHS and 30-40 yards total distance.  It works.

What is your clubhead speed?

[JoelKD]

112 avg 

[countach711]

I tried the Mitsubishi Bassara GG 53 S which is on Golf Shaft Reviews as having a close profile to the Autoflex (I actually got a GG 43 R).  However, the Autoflex has a lower torque rating.   I was hitting indoors with my YUPITERU Atlas Golf Swing Trainer.  I discovered that it did nothing for my swing speed, ball speed or yardage. 

 

What did was:

adding 2" to shaft length. 

removing 16 grams of head weights, 15 gram shaft reduction, 45 gram grip reduction (JumboMax wrap to JumboMax Ultralite)

Result: Gained 7 mph average

 

Question: is 180 grams too light for a club head?  It's the Cobra F9 which I really like and hit well.  I saw a blip on a TXG video where they mentioned meeting a certain minimum head weight to "get it to work" and I think it was about 190 gr.  Wondering what the effect of it being too light will be.

Along those lines, I had been used to playing the heavy weight forward and when I switched it around I couldn't find the sweet spot.  I thought it was supposed to be easier with the weight back.  Was I just having a bad day (cause I definitely was)?

 

[countach711]

So I thought I would add an update since playing two rounds at my home course.  The new set up got me about an extra twenty yards of carry on a good strike.  On 17 I cleared a bunker I never had before AND I was playing from the gold tees, a good 20 yards behind the blues.  I made one adjustment during the first round and that was to set the club to a draw position because I had too many going right.  I also put the 2 gram weight up front and left the rear weight position empty.  I think what I will do is add lead tape to the heel side and put it back to a neutral setting.  The Ping G410 SFT fairway works quite well for me and uses heel weighting to fight a fade.  Oh yeah, the best was the two par fives on the front I was able to get in position to reach in two which I haven't been able to in years and I did it on nine!

[alexg47]

I am a current user of the Autoflex 505x with a Callaway Epic Max LS 9 degree with the green dot adapter set to -2 and playing length 46 inches.  I am at scratch and my swing speed is 98 to 105 and play a draw primarily. I was looking for a backup setup for over a year and tried dozen of shafts and setups and finally found an exact match. The Aldila Ascent Ultralight 40 in Regular Flex as stated by JoelDK has match the autoflex almost identically. I have a GC Quad and put both setups and am getting identical numbers +- 1% deviation between the two setups. I made the Aldila my gamer for the past few weeks and it plays exactly the same. Both setups are using the same exact head, length and adapters only different is the head weight and grips. The MOI comes out to 2900 on both setups. The feel is almost identical and because of the fact that the Aldila is about 10 grams lighter allowed me to use a heavier grip which allowed more weight in the head so it made the head more forgiving for off center hits. My runner up setup was the Fujikura Motore F3 55 Regular Flex. The only issue I had with it was the Butt is tighter with this shaft so the feel was off when it comes to the Autoflex. As for numbers it was almost exact. I did see 200 - 500 RPM less spin with the Motore with center strikes which was nice but could not get past the feel. So if you like less feel then the Motore is your shaft. 

[SEP1006]

I wonder how many people went straight to Ebay after reading the above post.

[Burtgolf]

I recently ordered the motore f3 R2 in a PXG 7.5 gen5. Have used it twice on the sim so far. The first night I was really impressed with the consistency and forgiveness. Last night I couldn't find the center of the face but the forgiveness was still there. Going to move the weights around and tinker a bit more before coming to any conclusion. 

[Billfitz]

I went from a C.Kua 53 gram A flex to a Maltby 43 gram L flex, as the launch angle of the C.Kua was lower than I wanted. The Maltby gave me higher launch, longer carry and total distance, with no loss of accuracy. I'm 100% satisfied, especially as this experiment only cost me $55 including the grip. I'm not saying this is for everybody by any means, but all the naysayers who dismiss offhand using anything less than an XXS shaft should be summarily ignored, IMHO of course.

[Zena]

9 hours ago, alexg47 said:

... finally found an exact match. The Aldila Ascent Ultralight 40 in Regular Flex as stated by JoelDK has match the autoflex almost identically.

 

So in essence, demo-ing a Titleist TSi1 with the stock 40R shaft would be like playing the 505X Autoflex?

[London424]

I remembered watching this vid from a month or so back on this topic

 

 

[markheardjr]

I used to play scrambles with a guy named Chris. He had a Cleveland Launcher 460cc with a 55-R Aldila NV. He hit it 300+ with a mild draw on repeat. Also played with a kid named Mike that played golf at a lower end college. He also had a Launcher 460, with the stock Fuji Gold shaft in Stiff flex. I watched him hit 330y-350y repeatedly. Guy was like 5'6". He sure could turn that little body around like a spinning top.

 

Flex and weight are just letters and numbers. Try it, see if it works.

[Ger21]

Anyone try a 40G AD-DI or AD-IZ in R2 flex?

[alexg47]

10 hours ago, Zena said:

 

So in essence, demo-ing a Titleist TSi1 with the stock 40R shaft would be like playing the 505X Autoflex?

It would be so close you can make a very good assessment based on that shaft and head setup. I would recommend tuning the weights to make it playable. When I first got my autoflex it took a few weeks to tune it to get that best results for me. I have used that to tune all my test shafts to make it as close to the same feels and performance. If you just slap a head on and the shaft you will get mixed results. Using such a low flex and weight in a shaft requires work to get it to work right with your swing and tendencies. 

[alexg47]

51 minutes ago, Ger21 said:

Anyone try a 40G AD-DI or AD-IZ in R2 flex?

I have tried many of the GD shafts. None really match the bend profile very well. I did get some good results but spin and launch was always the issue. I like to see a very specific launch condition and most of the time these shafts ballooned pretty severely and to me was not playable. I do create allot of dynamic loft which is probably why these don't work for me. 

[Zena]

3 hours ago, alexg47 said:

It would be so close you can make a very good assessment based on that shaft and head setup. I would recommend tuning the weights to make it playable. When I first got my autoflex it took a few weeks to tune it to get that best results for me. I have used that to tune all my test shafts to make it as close to the same feels and performance. If you just slap a head on and the shaft you will get mixed results. Using such a low flex and weight in a shaft requires work to get it to work right with your swing and tendencies. 

 

Makes sense. Would you have any recommendations for the XX version? I game a Cobra F9 that is 194g with the stock 14g/2g weights that seems perfect to use here as a baseline.

Edited August 19, 2022 by Zena

[alexg47]

1 hour ago, Zena said:

 

Makes sense. Would you have any recommendations for the XX version? I game a Cobra F9 that is 194g with the stock 14g/2g weights that seems perfect to use here as a baseline.

Well this is where I put my club fitter hat on. Every swing is like a fingerprint. You can make many generalizations but no one can get in your head and feel what you feel and know how your body will react to that different situations. That being said I would start with start with the aldia in a stiff. Remember that has allot of feel so if you are not used to that then you will react very strange to it. If that is too much feel then move to the fuji in stiff and maybe even regular. The stiffer butt section will get rid of all the head lag you would normally feel in an autoflex. The last part would be the head weights. That will take much more time to tune since its mostly situational. The premise there is stabilizing the face for better misses and lowering the trajectory and spin.

[Zena]

9 hours ago, alexg47 said:

Well this is where I put my club fitter hat on. Every swing is like a fingerprint. You can make many generalizations but no one can get in your head and feel what you feel and know how your body will react to that different situations. That being said I would start with start with the aldia in a stiff. Remember that has allot of feel so if you are not used to that then you will react very strange to it. If that is too much feel then move to the fuji in stiff and maybe even regular. The stiffer butt section will get rid of all the head lag you would normally feel in an autoflex. The last part would be the head weights. That will take much more time to tune since its mostly situational. The premise there is stabilizing the face for better misses and lowering the trajectory and spin.

 

I use the Aldila Ascent Red 70X untipped in my 3 wood, and I use the AD IZ 80X in my 5 wood so I like the feel (to the point where I accept too high flight and too much spin to play them) and prefer my driver setup at D0 or so, which is why this thread drew my interest.

 

Generalizations are never perfect, but they serve as a starting point. Thank you for your efforts here, sounds like I'll be hunting down a new shaft for this experiment 🙂