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I know there's a lot of "loft-jacking" going on with irons nowadays, and I also know that if the COG is lower, then the launch angle can stay the same with a lower lofted iron.
However, I'm a bit OCD about my iron/wedge setup, and want my GI irons to have a matching G iron at 50* then go to my 55* and 59* specialty wedges.

the only set that I've found that even remotely matches what I'm looking for is the original PXG 0211's. are there any other sets like this out there? being the "club hoe" I've got that itch even though my 0211's have been good to me.🙄

Mavrik SZ TD - Diamana x'17 50S

PXG 0317x gen2 19* hybrid - MMT 80S
PXG 0211 4-SW - MMT 80S
Edison Forged 55*, 59* - MMT 105TX
Golo3 2014 - Pokéball weights
My swing: "something resembling a wet noodle" - My Boss.

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Specifics on G425 line were hard to track down at first. I found this G425 iron tableau that listed Retro lofts. (My apologies, but I can't find the source link for this. I had copied the tableaus int

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Take a look at the Mavrik MAX irons. Rated as SGI but has higher lofts than standard Mavriks.

MAX 7i =30* / std Mav 7i = 27*

 

In GI, Ping G410 might be of interest: 9i = 39.5*, PW = 44.5*, AW = 49.5*

 

G710 would be possible with Retro lofts

What's In The Bag (Summary as of October 2020)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

Wedges:  Calla MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced)

Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

For details see:  Pending (need protocol to embed file list).

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Srixon z585 / Zx5 have pretty standard lofts comparatively and are very forgiving for how good they look.

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Titleist TSi3 9* // Fujikura Pro 2.0

Ping G425 Max 3w // Tensei AV Orange

Ping G410 19, 22, 25 // Accra FX 2.0 100

Srixon ZX5 6-AW // Steelfiber i80

Cleveland CBX2 54*

Cleveland CBX Full Face 58*

L.A.B. DF 2.1 // BGT Stability Tour

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Ping i210 could fit the requirements, as well.  Retro lofts, or even standard lofts, going 45/50 in PW/GW.  The MOI on them is fairly robust, if you like forgiveness.  The only knock on them would be the CG, which is a little high at .913".  (the i200 is a bit lower, but still highish)

 

The iBlade is more forgiving than you might think from the name, and could fit the bill as well.  It has a bit lower CG than the i210, but still on the high side.

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The Ever Changing Bag!  A lot of mixing and matching
Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 10*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 X, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, Matrix 8m3 X, 42"
Hybrid:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, NV105 S or DGS400

Irons grab bag:  3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft pending); 1-PW Golden Ram TW282 or Vibration Matched Golden Rams, RIP Tour 115 R (coin flipping for the reshaft project); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400; Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Ram Watson Scoring System 55*, DGX 7i shaft; Ram TG-898, DGS400; Ram TG-898, NV105 S; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300; Ram 1982 Commemorative Nickel 58*, Dynamic S; Ram TW282, DGS; Ram TW276, DGS; Ram Troon Grind 58*, Dynamic S; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, DGS400; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, NV105 S
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"
Balls: Wilson Staff Duo Professional or TaylorMade TP5

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37 minutes ago, moadhia said:

Ping g410/g425 can be bought in retro lofts so that should satisfy your requirements

 

Do you know this for sure? The Ping G425 does not list retro as available on the site currently

Callaway Mavrik Max 9 w/Hzrdus Smoke Black 80
Callaway Epic Subzero 14 w/Matrix Black Tie 80
Callaway Apex Hybrid 20 w/ Diamana D+ 95
Cobra King Forged TEC 4-GW w/Nippon Modus 130

Cobra King MIM Black 56 and 60 wedges

SGC #002 flow neck 385g

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50 minutes ago, moadhia said:

Ping g410/g425 can be bought in retro lofts so that should satisfy your requirements

I was just looking at the PING site and noticed that Retro Spec is not available on either the 410 or 425.  It's weird that you can get the 710s with Retro lofts but not those two models...

Driver PING G10 (12*)

Fairway Woods Callaway Big Bertha Warbird (16*, 20*, 24*)

Irons PING G10 XG (5-9, PW, UW)

Wedges PING Eye2 XG (55*, 60*)

Putter PING Karsten 1959 Anser X (35")

Bag Datrek DG Lite II

Cart Clicgear 3.5+

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These days it's either Ping in retro lofts or and older set of used GI or SGI irons made in the 2000s or earlier.

10.5 deg Titleist 905R with stock UST Proforce V2 Shaft
1999 Ben Hogan Apex Blades (3-PW) with stock Apex 4 Steel Shafts
Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts
Taylormade ATV wedges in 54 and 58 degrees with stock steel shafts
Rife Island Series Aruba Blade Putter

 

"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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1 hour ago, MtlJeff said:

Do you know this for sure? The Ping G425 does not list retro as available on the site currently

 

Specifics on G425 line were hard to track down at first. I found this G425 iron tableau that listed Retro lofts. (My apologies, but I can't find the source link for this. I had copied the tableaus into PowerPoint, but failed to include the URL.)

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What's In The Bag (Summary as of October 2020)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

Wedges:  Calla MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced)

Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

For details see:  Pending (need protocol to embed file list).

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2 hours ago, chippa13 said:

As long as some club in the set is 50*, who cares what they call it.


Same as the 28* loft.  But it's interesting that almost no one who says that looks at anything other than stronger lofted sets.  😉

 

The Ever Changing Bag!  A lot of mixing and matching
Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 10*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 X, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, Matrix 8m3 X, 42"
Hybrid:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, NV105 S or DGS400

Irons grab bag:  3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft pending); 1-PW Golden Ram TW282 or Vibration Matched Golden Rams, RIP Tour 115 R (coin flipping for the reshaft project); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S
Wedges:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400; Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Ram Watson Scoring System 55*, DGX 7i shaft; Ram TG-898, DGS400; Ram TG-898, NV105 S; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300; Ram 1982 Commemorative Nickel 58*, Dynamic S; Ram TW282, DGS; Ram TW276, DGS; Ram Troon Grind 58*, Dynamic S; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, DGS400; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, NV105 S
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"
Balls: Wilson Staff Duo Professional or TaylorMade TP5

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Thanks for the input, I've been hemming and hawing at a few different things, and decided to wait for #ReleaseSZN to be over before I make any sudden moves. I already made that mistake in trying a Thump hybrid shaft, and ended up hating it. MMT all the way.

speaking of which, does anybody have a list of irons in the Big 5 and company that have Taper/parallel hosels? I get the feeling that PXG is one of the few that offers parallel irons.

Mavrik SZ TD - Diamana x'17 50S

PXG 0317x gen2 19* hybrid - MMT 80S
PXG 0211 4-SW - MMT 80S
Edison Forged 55*, 59* - MMT 105TX
Golo3 2014 - Pokéball weights
My swing: "something resembling a wet noodle" - My Boss.

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Miura Passing Point 9003 SN on blowout from Chip Usher. 45* PW 50* AW. Pure feel good spin easy to hit, best deal in golf right now. 

RomaRo 435LX 10*-Quadra FEX 65SX 

PRGR Egg HD 14.5*-Fubuki 75S 3W
PRGR EGG 20* - M-43S 7 wood

RomaRo iBrid 2 22* - Crazy Hybrid 

Miura PP9003SN 5-G - Modus 125S 

Miura HB12 @ 55* - Modus 125 W

2015 PM Grind 60* - KBS Tour V

Axis1 Rose - Garsen Quad Tour grip
 

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