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I can't test the shaft out with the head combo so would like to get general input regarding this shaft.

 

Planning to purchase Graphite Design (GD) Tour AD Driving Iron 95S with Srixon ZX DUI (20*)

 

Info about the shaft: https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-utilitydriving-iron/

 

Currently using GD Tour AD TP-6x for driver, AD DI-7x for 3 wood, AD DI-8x for 5 wood. Nippon Modus 120 stiff for my irons.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-6x

3 wood - Titleist TS2 15* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5wood - Titleist TS2 18* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Irons - Srixon ZX7 4, Srixon Z Forged 5- PW w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Gap Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 52* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Sand Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Lob Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Full Face 64* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Putter - Bettinardi DASS Diamond Face BB8 w/ Stability Tour Black

Ball - Srixon Z Star

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I wasn’t a fan of this shaft. It gave no feedback and didn’t feel on par with their other shafts I’ve tested.

 

I’m a fan of a properly fit hybrid shaft in DIs especially if you already have a favorite profile you can base Off of from hitting hybrids

 

Right now I’m using an atmos black in an xforged - but the tensei pro blue, pro white, Ventus hyb, and Mitsubishi MMT are all good options.

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I had a 105x one in a srixon 2 iron for a few years and got one for a friend. When swinging well, they were great and ball go far --when my game was off--oh well alot of left than right shots.  Of course, that's my fault--but the purpose of a good fitted shaft is to help me even when it's my fault. I'm looking for the magic shaft-and the steel 130x c-taper is better for my game when I am off---I just bought a ventus 10x--I hope the ventus is the best of both worlds.

 

stealth 2 plus, 10.5 Titleist 6x tr blue

Cobra 4 iron 
G425 5 and 7 woods red ventus 90x

Tsi2 3 wood RDX black x

PXG 0311xp 5-gw, 0211 G,SW,LW  Wilson ci11 w/ ctaper 130x

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5 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

I wasn’t a fan of this shaft. It gave no feedback and didn’t feel on par with their other shafts I’ve tested.

 

I’m a fan of a properly fit hybrid shaft in DIs especially if you already have a favorite profile you can base Off of from hitting hybrids

 

Right now I’m using an atmos black in an xforged - but the tensei pro blue, pro white, Ventus hyb, and Mitsubishi MMT are all good options.

 

This is what I have been hearing from many people on the forum. Hence very reluctant to purchase this shaft without being able to test.

 

My club builder can instead make the ZX DUI fit to a .37 diameter DI-9s Hybrid shaft but I am not sure if this will change the integrity or playability of the shaft and the head. 

 

Also do you reckon I should go with s or x in DI hybrid shaft. (Currently using GD Tour AD TP-6x for driver, AD DI-7x for 3 wood, AD DI-8x for 5 wood. Nippon Modus 120 stiff for my irons.)

Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-6x

3 wood - Titleist TS2 15* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5wood - Titleist TS2 18* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Irons - Srixon ZX7 4, Srixon Z Forged 5- PW w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Gap Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 52* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Sand Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Lob Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Full Face 64* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Putter - Bettinardi DASS Diamond Face BB8 w/ Stability Tour Black

Ball - Srixon Z Star

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3 hours ago, hypergolf said:

 

This is what I have been hearing from many people on the forum. Hence very reluctant to purchase this shaft without being able to test.

 

My club builder can instead make the ZX DUI fit to a .37 diameter DI-9s Hybrid shaft but I am not sure if this will change the integrity or playability of the shaft and the head. 

 

Also do you reckon I should go with s or x in DI hybrid shaft. (Currently using GD Tour AD TP-6x for driver, AD DI-7x for 3 wood, AD DI-8x for 5 wood. Nippon Modus 120 stiff for my irons.)

No issue shaving shaft from .370 to fit into taper tip hosel, OEM’s do it all the time. This all seems like good advice honestly regarding the DI driving iron shaft, it has the opposite profile of the AD DI family. DI’s get stiffer from butt to tip, where as the driving iron gets softer.  I played a DJ (which has same profile is driving iron) for a bit and I had no real issue with it other than it launched very high. 

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The hybrid shaft in 105x is awesome

 

the di shafts are loose feeling ... I have 85 and 95’s

Ping G400 LST 11* Ventus Black TR 5x

Ping G400 5w 16.9* Ventus Black 5x

Ping G400 7w 19.5* Ventus Red 6x

Ping G425 4h 22* Blueboard HY 80x

Ping Blueprint S 5 - PW Steelfiber 95 & 110s

Ping Glide Wrx 49*, 54*, 59*, Tour W 64* SF 125s

EvnRoll ER9
 

 

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Regarding the suggestion/assertion to install .370 into the standard iron hosel, would one lightly taper the parallel shaft (ie, is that an option with graphite..?) or is it necessary to ream the bottom of the bore slightly.

 

If light taper on graphite is an option, roughly how far up the tip must one go?

TSi3 10

TS2 16.5 & 21

G425 22 & 26

ZX7 6i - PW

Vokey 54F-14, 58K-12

Spider X

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14 minutes ago, Aviador Naval said:

Regarding the suggestion/assertion to install .370 into the standard iron hosel, would one lightly taper the parallel shaft (ie, is that an option with graphite..?) or is it necessary to ream the bottom of the bore slightly.

 

If light taper on graphite is an option, roughly how far up the tip must one go?

OEM’s have a machine like a pencil sharpener to accomplish this, but you can literally just sand the shaft tip till it fits fully inserted. You would ideally have the shaft you pulled handy to reference insertion depth, but you don’t need to touch the hosel other than to clean and prep it for reshafting. 

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31 minutes ago, zeke66 said:

I guess I’m in the minority here but I really liked this shaft. I played it in a Callaway 18 degree driving iron. It was very consistent and stable. Felt like a little bit lighter iron shaft. Very consistent for me. 

I am tempted to try it in a U510 for a couple reasons... one it’s taper tip so it if fits with less work. Secondly it’s cheaper than a hybrid shaft if the AD DI. I figured for a club replacing my 4 iron control would be ideal, but the easy launch is part of why I’m even asking.  Did you find it pretty easy to hit, as driving irons can be pesky to elevate if not flushed. 

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I actually get along with steel in driving irons pretty well. I had a driving iron with the hybrid shaft from GD and one with the DI GD shaft same weight. The steel always seems launch lowest. The DI shaft was a little higher, easier to elevate. The hybrid shaft was the loosest and made the club seem really spinny and less like a driving iron. Into the wind it just wasn’t near as good as the DI GD shaft or Steel. That being said... the DI GD shaft isn’t as hefty as steel, but also still performed well in the wind 

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6 minutes ago, zeke66 said:

I actually get along with steel in driving irons pretty well. I had a driving iron with the hybrid shaft from GD and one with the DI GD shaft same weight. The steel always seems launch lowest. The DI shaft was a little higher, easier to elevate. The hybrid shaft was the loosest and made the club seem really spinny and less like a driving iron. Into the wind it just wasn’t near as good as the DI GD shaft or Steel. That being said... the DI GD shaft isn’t as hefty as steel, but also still performed well in the wind 

 

How does the DI hybrid shaft in terms of flex?  

 

Wondering if I should go with s or x in DI hybrid shaft. (Currently using GD Tour AD TP-6x for driver, AD DI-7x for 3 wood, AD DI-8x for 5 wood. Nippon Modus 120 stiff for my irons.

Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-6x

3 wood - Titleist TS2 15* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5wood - Titleist TS2 18* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Irons - Srixon ZX7 4, Srixon Z Forged 5- PW w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Gap Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 52* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Sand Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Lob Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Full Face 64* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Putter - Bettinardi DASS Diamond Face BB8 w/ Stability Tour Black

Ball - Srixon Z Star

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Or another option is to wait a few more months and just order a TSi3 hybrid (smaller head) which would launch lower than my current hybrid and order the shaft with Titleist tip so that I can use it over and over again in different heads... So many choices to make... 

 

 

Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-6x

3 wood - Titleist TS2 15* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5wood - Titleist TS2 18* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Irons - Srixon ZX7 4, Srixon Z Forged 5- PW w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Gap Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 52* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Sand Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Lob Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Full Face 64* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Putter - Bettinardi DASS Diamond Face BB8 w/ Stability Tour Black

Ball - Srixon Z Star

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1 minute ago, hypergolf said:

 

How does the DI hybrid shaft in terms of flex?  

 

Wondering if I should go with s or x in DI hybrid shaft. (Currently using GD Tour AD TP-6x for driver, AD DI-7x for 3 wood, AD DI-8x for 5 wood. Nippon Modus 120 stiff for my irons.

I have an AD-DI 95-S in my hybrid.  Love it.  Feels like a Modus shaft in that it is smooth (hard hitters might even say loose) but I’m no where near over powering it.  Iron shafts are Modus 105-S and I’ve played 120-S without issue as well.

 

Given your current set-up, I’d look at 95X or 105X.

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TS2 16.5 & 21

G425 22 & 26

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F-this... Too many things to consider and muck around... LOL. I am just going to use my 3 iron for now. Played with my Srixon Z Forged 3 iron today and felt like I was throwing darts to the green from 200 to 210 yard range. 

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Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-6x

3 wood - Titleist TS2 15* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5wood - Titleist TS2 18* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Irons - Srixon ZX7 4, Srixon Z Forged 5- PW w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Gap Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 52* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Sand Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Lob Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Full Face 64* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Putter - Bettinardi DASS Diamond Face BB8 w/ Stability Tour Black

Ball - Srixon Z Star

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11 hours ago, hypergolf said:

F-this... Too many things to consider and muck around... LOL. I am just going to use my 3 iron for now. Played with my Srixon Z Forged 3 iron today and felt like I was throwing darts to the green from 200 to 210 yard range. 

 

As a confirmed shaft ho, I LOL'd at this.

 

I have a Ventus Blue 8S hybrid shaft that I'll be putting into my driving iron as this year's experiment for once the snow melts.

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Mizuno CLK 19*: Ventus Blue HB-8S

Srixon ZX Utility #4: Nippon Modus3 125-S

Wilson Staff CB 5-PW : Nippon Modus3 125-S

Cleveland Zipcore 50, 54, 58: Nippon Modus3 125-S 

Piretti Potenza 370g : Breakthrough Technology Stability Shaft - 34"

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37 minutes ago, drscott266 said:

For what it’s worth, Bill at Pro Choice told me that the Driving Iron shaft would deliver the intended performance for a driving iron rather than the hybrid shaft. 

 

You are not helping with my indecisiveness here... LOL

Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-6x

3 wood - Titleist TS2 15* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5wood - Titleist TS2 18* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Irons - Srixon ZX7 4, Srixon Z Forged 5- PW w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Gap Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 52* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Sand Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Lob Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Full Face 64* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Putter - Bettinardi DASS Diamond Face BB8 w/ Stability Tour Black

Ball - Srixon Z Star

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The issue guys like me have is trying to put the driving iron into hybrids ... saving a few bones

Ping G400 LST 11* Ventus Black TR 5x

Ping G400 5w 16.9* Ventus Black 5x

Ping G400 7w 19.5* Ventus Red 6x

Ping G425 4h 22* Blueboard HY 80x

Ping Blueprint S 5 - PW Steelfiber 95 & 110s

Ping Glide Wrx 49*, 54*, 59*, Tour W 64* SF 125s

EvnRoll ER9
 

 

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On 1/18/2021 at 12:50 PM, hypergolf said:

Or another option is to wait a few more months and just order a TSi3 hybrid (smaller head) which would launch lower than my current hybrid and order the shaft with Titleist tip so that I can use it over and over again in different heads... So many choices to make... 

 

 

I think I am a golf psychic... 

 

https://www.golfwrx.com/645217/golfwrx-spotted-titleist-tsi-hybrids-seeding-at-the-american-express/?utm_source=Front&utm_medium=Featured_Center_Top&utm_campaign=GolfWRX_OnSite&utm_content=main

Driver - Titleist TS3 9.5* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ-6x

3 wood - Titleist TS2 15* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-7x

5wood - Titleist TS2 18* w/ Graphite Design Tour AD DI-8x

Irons - Srixon ZX7 4, Srixon Z Forged 5- PW w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 120X

Gap Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 52* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Sand Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore 58* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Lob Wedge - Cleveland RTX Zipcore Full Face 64* w/ Nippon NS Pro Modus Wedge 115

Putter - Bettinardi DASS Diamond Face BB8 w/ Stability Tour Black

Ball - Srixon Z Star

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  • 11 months later...

I played the 95x in a 716 T-MB 3i at the end of last year and liked it...but it was almost too smooth and I never wanted to go after it...although great distance and launch with a smooth swing.

 

I broke the shaft last week so I'm replacing it with the same shaft but hard stepping to the 4i shaft...just ordered it. On paper I should love it as a slightly tighter version. 

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I’m currently using the 95X tipped half an inch at .25inches long. Was a good shaft the last 2 years, but lately feels a bit “loose” around transition and impact. Felt really smooth, but sometimes a little too smooth. Really had to time it which made it tough to work the ball into the green with consistent comfort. 
I have a graphite design Tour AD IZ TX in my driver and MMT TX125 in my irons, both of which I love. 
driving iron shaft isn’t awful but might play a touch softer than you’d expect. 

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Driving iron version plays “softer” as it is supposed to be for an “iron.” I love the Gd shaft lines, but it really seemed like you may be better off with a true 3 iron for the “iron version.” I found the DI to be better dispersion and weight wise, maybe just my own mental perception. 
 

I always built my driving irons to be more boring and mid where I found the iron version to be more high launch mid spin. Depends what you want, but for a true DI I would use a hybrid version. 

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On 1/16/2021 at 8:34 PM, hypergolf said:

I can't test the shaft out with the head combo so would like to get general input regarding this shaft.

 

Planning to purchase Graphite Design (GD) Tour AD Driving Iron 95S with Srixon ZX DUI (20*)

 

Info about the shaft: https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-utilitydriving-iron/

 

Currently using GD Tour AD TP-6x for driver, AD DI-7x for 3 wood, AD DI-8x for 5 wood. Nippon Modus 120 stiff for my irons.

 

Thanks.

 

 

I really like mine. Have a 95x in a T100s 3 iron ( more like a 2 iron). Consistent shape and feels smooth. It is my go to club on tight holes. 
 

For reference I have a TP-6x tipped a half inch in driver, DI 7x in my 3w and PX LZ6.0 in my irons.   
 

Good luck. 

TSi3 Ventus Black 6TX

TSi2  Ventus Black 7X

3 T100s Tour AD DI 95X

4-GW T100s PX LZ 6.0

MG3 52, 56, 60 

PXG 0311 53, 58

PXG Blackjack/Scotty phantom 11

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  • 7 months later...

Looking to fill some gaps in the long iron/hybrid department. Current play a combo set of MP 221(P-7) 225 (6-4). Shafts are Project X LX Blackout 6.0 (I can go between S/X with no real issue if needed). Really want to put something a bit lighter/higher launch in the 225 4 iron. Something that I can hold greens with from 210-220. Looking to do something similar with a 3 hybrid (220 - 240) as well. Have been looking at the AD DI 105X  & 95S/X, AD IZ 95, Ventus HB Blue (9X). Curious if the 4 iron idea is just a bad idea and too big a shaft transition?

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