Tour PXG Gen 4 prototype drivers - new putters

[TheMoneyShot]

8 minutes ago, My2Dogs said:

That’s what I did for the Mavrik.  Best decision ever.  Could do the same here as the shape looks good but don’t like the 2 tone.  If it performs then just get it painted to what you eye likes. 

They do great work there for sure👍

[Hacker541]

I wonder what they'll charge when they drop the darkness model with a palatable colorway??

[Nixhex524]

I keep eyeing that new Bat Attack... Just got word my Blackjack is on its way but man, that BA looks so good....

[SylvesterLundgren]

I have the ping G400 and you could say it’s busy on top, but after a while you’ll get use to it. I believe in watching the face meet the ball so I can’t relate to getting perturbed by the crown. 
If you can handle seeing turbulators on pings and the shaping you can handle seeing that section of the crown on the PXG. 

Edited January 26, 2021 by SylvesterLundgren

[ajlacombe]

15 minutes ago, SylvesterLundgren said:

I have the ping G400 and you could say it’s busy on top, but after a while you’ll get use to it. I believe in watching the face meet the ball so I can’t relate to getting perturbed by the crown. 
If you can handle seeing turbulators on pings and the shaping you can handle seeing that section of the crown on the PXG. 

That is a great point - the shape is the thing that is my hot button.  I can not handle closed at all, and I can not handle a "weird" shape.  So if the head is fat front to back with respect to heel toe, I do not like it.  I think that white patch would turn into something that you did not see - as long as it performed.  Much like hearing a crinkling bag during your shot - when you are playing well and tuned in, you do not hear it, but if you are playing badly the rabbit ears are very active 🙂 

[snagy2000]

13 minutes ago, SylvesterLundgren said:

I have the ping G400 and you could say it’s busy on top, but after a while you’ll get use to it. I believe in watching the face meet the ball so I can’t relate to getting perturbed by the crown. 
If you can handle seeing turbulators on pings and the shaping you can handle seeing that section of the crown on the PXG. 

Exactly! Plus hearing performance numbers are better than Protos. If true, no way many won't buy this due to looks.

[OspreyCI]

31 minutes ago, snagy2000 said:

Exactly! Plus hearing performance numbers are better than Protos. If true, no way many won't buy this due to looks.

Wait.. what. More performance than the Proto??? If so, don’t care about the crown paint. 

[AllyOops]

For the drivers, my eyes would focus on the white part. Even if I managed to focus on the ball, soon as I started to take it back, I'd be afraid I'd look at the white. Not gonna work for me.

[Shakespeare]

1 hour ago, snagy2000 said:

Exactly! Plus hearing performance numbers are better than Protos. If true, no way many won't buy this due to looks.

What numbers? Ballspeed, spin? How much better? Is it tour performance or average joes? Spill the beans if you know please....lots of us are anxious

[SylvesterLundgren]

1 hour ago, ajlacombe said:

That is a great point - the shape is the thing that is my hot button.  I can not handle closed at all, and I can not handle a "weird" shape.  So if the head is fat front to back with respect to heel toe, I do not like it.  I think that white patch would turn into something that you did not see - as long as it performed.  Much like hearing a crinkling bag during your shot - when you are playing well and tuned in, you do not hear it, but if you are playing badly the rabbit ears are very active 🙂 

I feel it. We’re saying the same thing 💪🏻 Lol 

[DG Tiger]

The white paint on the driver could easily get scratched like the old Taylormade & then it will look ugly. I still like the black all over Driver from Gen 3 Proto much cleaner look.

[DG Tiger]

Getting fitted for PXG putters on Friday hoping they have the new lineup including Mr Brandon 🙂

[BigBlue7]

That bat attack looks so good. If Scotty doesn’t come out with a flow neck 5 with a milled face this year I could see myself going for the Bat Attack

[Zonazoo]

1 hour ago, DG Tiger said:

Getting fitted for PXG putters on Friday hoping they have the new lineup including Mr Brandon 🙂

I was at HQ today for a putter fitting. The only “new” models I saw were the blackjack and the one and done. Definitely make sure your fitter uses the quintic putting machine to validate your results. Really cool data it provides!

[CC Stryder]

8 hours ago, Nixhex524 said:

I keep eyeing that new Bat Attack... Just got word my Blackjack is on its way but man, that BA looks so good....

Just gonna keep rocking my spider until they release the BA!  Then I’ll get one and when we agree that neither putter works for us we can swap!

[Nixhex524]

8 hours ago, CC Stryder said:

Just gonna keep rocking my spider until they release the BA!  Then I’ll get one and when we agree that neither putter works for us we can swap!

My brotha!!!!  I like how you think... LOL

[Highlander84]

18 hours ago, snagy2000 said:

Exactly! Plus hearing performance numbers are better than Protos. If true, no way many won't buy this due to looks.

Performance gains are marginal if you're lucky year on year with drivers. You'd be lucky to get a yard or two extra. The most important change I can see (cosmetics aside), is the huge change in face depth. If you like the Proto or Gen 2, you may not like this new head shape. Some heads just click with a swing for various reasons, and when they make a big change to the shape that's concerning. In the end your performance may drop from past models to Gen 4. Purported performance gains are so finicky in the real world. I wouldn't put much stock into claims like that. 

[ajlacombe]

29 minutes ago, Highlander84 said:

Performance gains are marginal if you're lucky year on year with drivers. You'd be lucky to get a yard or two extra. The most important change I can see (cosmetics aside), is the huge change in face depth. If you like the Proto or Gen 2, you may not like this new head shape. Some heads just click with a swing for various reasons, and when they make a big change to the shape that's concerning. In the end your performance may drop from past models to Gen 4. Purported performance gains are so finicky in the real world. I wouldn't put much stock into claims like that. 

How are you saying a huge change in face depth?  Do you have actual dimensions of the clubs?  I would imagine that these things have been analyzed big time to come up with initial prototypes and then iterated until they got demonstrably better performance for the majority of their testers or it would be suicide in the market  Not saying that it is impossible but I would have a hard time believing that PXG would do that.

[Highlander84]

4 minutes ago, ajlacombe said:

How are you saying a huge change in face depth?  Do you have actual dimensions of the clubs?  I would imagine that these things have been analyzed big time to come up with initial prototypes and then iterated until they got demonstrably better performance for the majority of their testers or it would be suicide in the market  Not saying that it is impossible but I would have a hard time believing that PXG would do that.

I'm just going of visuals. It's visually much deeper than Gen 2 and Gen 3. My point wasn't that it would be much worse for everyone, but that someone who likes the previous generations may not like that change. The point is that so much of what we're talking about is subjective, so every change a company makes to its clubs will have positive and negative effects for different types of players.

[OspreyCI]

8 minutes ago, Highlander84 said:

I'm just going of visuals. It's visually much deeper than Gen 2 and Gen 3. My point wasn't that it would be much worse for everyone, but that someone who likes the previous generations may not like that change. The point is that so much of what we're talking about is subjective, so every change a company makes to its clubs will have positive and negative effects for different types of players.

Not sure how it can be any deeper faced than my Proto+.

[Highlander84]

6 minutes ago, OspreyCI said:

Not sure how it can be any deeper faced than my Proto+.

It looks deeper than the previous X models, and I would say it looks deeper than the X+, but maybe at that point I'm splitting hairs.

 

[ajlacombe]

1 minute ago, Highlander84 said:

It looks deeper than the previous X models, and I would say it looks deeper than the X+, but maybe at that point I'm splitting hairs.

 

I was trying to ferret out how they compared off those pictures and gave up.  It does appear that they are different shapes especially along the topline between the face and crown - it seems to rise up and then dive down at the toe.

 

It will be very cool to see them all side by side.  Yeah - who knows

[Shakespeare]

I just would like to know what performance gains over the proto people are seeing. I can then at least decide if those gains would apply to me. Saying there are gains and then not saying what they are is like  saying your friend saw bigfoot....

[TheMoneyShot]

1 minute ago, Shakespeare said:

I just would like to know what performance gains over the proto people are seeing. I can then at least decide if those gains would apply to me. Saying there are gains and then not saying what they are is like  saying your friend saw bigfoot....

Happens a lot around here...

[OspreyCI]

1 hour ago, Shakespeare said:

I just would like to know what performance gains over the proto people are seeing. I can then at least decide if those gains would apply to me. Saying there are gains and then not saying what they are is like  saying your friend saw bigfoot....

Agree. But I did see a Bigfoot once in my golf bag. Terrible wedge it was! 

[snagy2000]

1 hour ago, Shakespeare said:

I just would like to know what performance gains over the proto people are seeing. I can then at least decide if those gains would apply to me. Saying there are gains and then not saying what they are is like  saying your friend saw bigfoot....

Patience is a virtue, I guess except for Golfwrxers. Pretty sure PXG will spell out the gains once they formally roll it out. Then we'll all get to try it and see if it's works well for us or not. 

[DG Tiger]

Guys the price on GEN 3 0311 irons just dropped to $199!!!! This is a signal new irons are coming out soon. 

[TheMoneyShot]

38 minutes ago, DG Tiger said:

Guys the price on GEN 3 0311 irons just dropped to $199!!!! This is a signal new irons are coming out soon. 

Yep, something has to be coming.  PXG releasing lots of nice stuff in 2021.

[BirdieBob]

Too late to sell your obsolete G3 irons...fire sale!

 

[TheMoneyShot]

2 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

Too late to sell your obsolete G3 irons...fire sale!

 

At least we were a head of the curve👍