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well, I do still have it.. So, kinda.. I just am stupid.

I wonder how these are different from last years TD.. I had one and it was good. 

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I wonder how these are different from last years TD.. I had one and it was good. 

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3 wood: Titleist Tsi3 16.5 Haz RDX black 70 X flex

& Wood: Titleist TSi2 Ventus Red 9X
Taylormade Gapr low 2 ventus blue 9x
4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
Wedges 50, 54, 60 Cleveland ZIPCORE
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BALL; Bridgestone BX, OR Taylomade TP5x PIX

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Last years TD was awesome.  Was as good or a little better than the PX Hulk on a launch monitor for me.  Hopefully the previous version drops in price if these come to retail. 

Titleist TSi3 9.25*  HZRDUS Smoke Green 6.5tx 
Titleist TSi3 5W 18* Tensei AV Raw White- x
Srixon Z 745 (4-pw) KBS tour-x
Mizuno T20 51* 54* 60* TT x-100
Callaway PM Grind 64*
SC Studio Design no. 2
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2 minutes ago, getair23 said:

Last years TD was awesome.  Was as good or a little better than the PX Hulk on a launch monitor for me.  Hopefully the previous version drops in price if these come to retail. 

I still have mine. I cut it down to 3 wood length. Really wish I had not done that.. But experiments must be done and sometimes there are mistakes.. 

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 Ventus blue 7X

3 wood: Titleist Tsi3 16.5 Haz RDX black 70 X flex

& Wood: Titleist TSi2 Ventus Red 9X
Taylormade Gapr low 2 ventus blue 9x
4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
Wedges 50, 54, 60 Cleveland ZIPCORE
PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
BALL; Bridgestone BX, OR Taylomade TP5x PIX

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5 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

I still have mine. I cut it down to 3 wood length. Really wish I had not done that.. But experiments must be done and sometimes there are mistakes.. 

It is the cost of doing business. Haha. I saw this thread pop up and I got to wondering if you stuck with this. 

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Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Evenflow Black 75 6.5
Callaway X-Forged UT 21* w/Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X
Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW KBS 130X
Taylormade Spider X Navy/White 35"
Callaway MD3 52, 56, 60
All sitting comfortably in my Sun Mountain Sync Cart Bag

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It is the cost of doing business. Haha. I saw this thread pop up and I got to wondering if you stuck with this. 

well, I do still have it.. So, kinda.. I just am stupid.

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 Ventus blue 7X

3 wood: Titleist Tsi3 16.5 Haz RDX black 70 X flex

& Wood: Titleist TSi2 Ventus Red 9X
Taylormade Gapr low 2 ventus blue 9x
4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
Wedges 50, 54, 60 Cleveland ZIPCORE
PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
BALL; Bridgestone BX, OR Taylomade TP5x PIX

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5 hours ago, getair23 said:

Last years TD was awesome.  Was as good or a little better than the PX Hulk on a launch monitor for me.  Hopefully the previous version drops in price if these come to retail. 

Absolutely is !   I fell into one in a mavrik combo and boy do I hit it good.   I too tested it against the hulk , and wasnt a real contest.  The TD beat it in feel , dispersion and overall spin / launch numbers.   Best part is , it translates to the course.  

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Titleist tsi2 10* Mitsubishi TB 70x 

Titleist ts2 16.5 * Tensei CK pro Blue 80TX

Pxg Gen 2 0317X 3h  kbs 95 s+ 

Titleist T100 [email protected]*  modus 130x 

Vokey sm7 50*54*58*v grind s400

Cameron GSS 009  1.5 , sound slot , tungsten sole weights , head speed shaft. 

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13 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

I wonder how these are different from last years TD.. I had one and it was good. 

very underrated shaft and not enough talk on them... ive got it in driver and 3w for my SIM. Love them

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PXG Proto 0811x 9*.... Tensei Pro Orange 60tx (( or )) 

PXG 0211 3w 15*.... Tensei Pro Blue 70tx (( or )) 

PXG Proto 0317 17* hybrid.... VA Nemesys 90x (( or )) 

Srixon ZX7 4 - P... Steelfiber i110x black label (( or )) New Level PF-1 Black 4-P ... KBS C-taper lite 115x black

Vokey SM8 raw black 51*, 55*, 59* ..... (( or )) New Level M-type 52*, 58*, 62* ... KBS Tour FLT 130x black

Bettinardi SS28 Black Friday w/ Stability Tour Blackout

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On 1/20/2021 at 12:37 AM, QuigleyDU said:

I still have mine. I cut it down to 3 wood length. Really wish I had not done that.. But experiments must be done and sometimes there are mistakes.. 

I am interested as to why was it a bad move?

 

I have one and found that on the driver I gained much needed spin and launch from the TD, as I need those two even more in my fairway I cut it and it now has a Ping tip waiting for the G425 Max fairway and if that doenst work out it's going into a Sim2 Max 3hl fairway..

Cobra SpeedZone 10,5° Tensei CK Orange 60X 48" / Ping G410 16°  KBS TD Category3 / Ping G410 Crossover 23° Hzrdus Smoke 90 6.0 / Ping iBlade 4-PW Modus3 105S / Ping Glide3.0 52/56° PingZ / Ping Glide Forged 60° DG TI S400 / Scotty Cameron Phantom X 12,5 33,5" Stability Tour Shaft / Bridgestone Tour B XS

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27 minutes ago, Hedgehog said:

I am interested as to why was it a bad move?

 

I have one and found that on the driver I gained much needed spin and launch from the TD, as I need those two even more in my fairway I cut it and it now has a Ping tip waiting for the G425 Max fairway and if that doenst work out it's going into a Sim2 Max 3hl fairway..

Just in the sense that i cant put it back in a driver and it is possibly a little light to be in a fairway wood. Their shafts run on the lighter side. Meaning their 70 gram shaft is right at 70 grams before being cut. So cutting it down means it is sub 70 grams.. I should have just left it a driver shaft and if I really wanted to fairway wood shaft I should have gotten an 80 gram shaft.. 

 

Its a weight thing. Maybe not a big deal but I don't like having fairway wood shafts that are lighter than my driver shaft.. 

Driver: Titleist TSi3 Ventus blue 7X

3 wood: Titleist Tsi3 16.5 Haz RDX black 70 X flex

& Wood: Titleist TSi2 Ventus Red 9X
Taylormade Gapr low 2 ventus blue 9x
4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
Wedges 50, 54, 60 Cleveland ZIPCORE
PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
BALL; Bridgestone BX, OR Taylomade TP5x PIX

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I love the shaft. I've been playing different iterations of the Fubuki Alpha in my driver(currently Mavrik Max) for years. I went into the J and then the last one was the Fubuki V. 

I was playing KBS Tour V in my previous set of irons and this year went into the KBS TGI iron shafts. Also put a KBS Tour Proto hybrid in my Apex UT and loved it as well as the

 new iron shafts. So I figured, I have to try the TD in my driver. It was literally love at first swing. I did no testing with it at all. Bought one and put it straight in the bag.

Kicked the Fubuki V right out of the bag into my back up Rogue head. 

Callaway Epic Max 9* (N/S) Fubuki V 50 / Mavrik Max 9* (N/S) KBS TD 50
Callaway Mavrik 15* 3wd Fubuki Ax f65
Callaway Mavrik  Max 21* 7wd Fubuki Ax f75
Callaway Apex 20* & 23* KuroKage Black 80HY
Callaway Apex UT 24* KBS Tour Prototype Hybrid 85
Callaway  Mavrik Pro KBS TGI 5-9 
Callaway MD3 46*/8* & 50/10* 
Callaway MD5 Jaws 54*/10*S & 58*/08*C 
Odyssey/Toulon Azalea or Odyssey WHP #3 
 

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i love kbs iron shafts.  I have never even had a chance to try a kbs driver shaft let alone see one.  Hard to commit to a $150-$200 upgrade on a new driver if they aren't available to test out.  

TS3 9.5 Hzrdus smoke black 60g 6.5
TS3 18 degree @ 17.25 hzrdus smoke black 70g 6.5
P790 UDI 18* (KBS tour 130x)

818h2 19* (Steelfiber i110x or ck blue 80x at 39.5)
Mizuno MP18 (7-Pw), SC (5-6), MMC (4) (KBS tour 130x)

Vokey sm7 50*, sm6 55*, TVD-M 60* (TI s400 tipped 1/4")
1995 Scotty Cameron by Titleist Newport 35"

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6 hours ago, B_of_H said:

i love kbs iron shafts.  I have never even had a chance to try a kbs driver shaft let alone see one.  Hard to commit to a $150-$200 upgrade on a new driver if they aren't available to test out.  

For Sure! I enjoyed switching into the hybrid shaft in my UT and then the graphite irons, so the TD driver shaft wasn't that big a leap of faith for me. Also reading some positive reviews helped. 

I got mine off eBay for a good price with the adaptor already on it. Came from a Callaway fitting cart I think. I figured if it wasn't for me, I could sell it for what I paid. 

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Callaway Epic Max 9* (N/S) Fubuki V 50 / Mavrik Max 9* (N/S) KBS TD 50
Callaway Mavrik 15* 3wd Fubuki Ax f65
Callaway Mavrik  Max 21* 7wd Fubuki Ax f75
Callaway Apex 20* & 23* KuroKage Black 80HY
Callaway Apex UT 24* KBS Tour Prototype Hybrid 85
Callaway  Mavrik Pro KBS TGI 5-9 
Callaway MD3 46*/8* & 50/10* 
Callaway MD5 Jaws 54*/10*S & 58*/08*C 
Odyssey/Toulon Azalea or Odyssey WHP #3 
 

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13 hours ago, jgolf215 said:

For Sure! I enjoyed switching into the hybrid shaft in my UT and then the graphite irons, so the TD driver shaft wasn't that big a leap of faith for me. Also reading some positive reviews helped. 

I got mine off eBay for a good price with the adaptor already on it. Came from a Callaway fitting cart I think. I figured if it wasn't for me, I could sell it for what I paid. 

 

for some reason I spin kbs tour 130s less than my old SS x100.  I know its not supposed to be that way but it is what it is.  If I could get a similar result out of my hybrid, 5wood and driver that would be great.  looking for something mid launch and low spin.  

TS3 9.5 Hzrdus smoke black 60g 6.5
TS3 18 degree @ 17.25 hzrdus smoke black 70g 6.5
P790 UDI 18* (KBS tour 130x)

818h2 19* (Steelfiber i110x or ck blue 80x at 39.5)
Mizuno MP18 (7-Pw), SC (5-6), MMC (4) (KBS tour 130x)

Vokey sm7 50*, sm6 55*, TVD-M 60* (TI s400 tipped 1/4")
1995 Scotty Cameron by Titleist Newport 35"

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On 1/24/2021 at 11:14 AM, B_of_H said:

 

for some reason I spin kbs tour 130s less than my old SS x100.  I know its not supposed to be that way but it is what it is.  If I could get a similar result out of my hybrid, 5wood and driver that would be great.  looking for something mid launch and low spin.  

It's not unusual for a particular shaft to give different results then expected or advertised. You would be playing a stiffer shaft in the TD than I have in my driver. I think I'd say mine is high launch, moderate-low spin. One thing I do know is that the TD shaft has a little more weight in the bottom third of the shaft. Check out the TXG review on YouTube to see more on that.

My guess is this new prototype might be something you would consider once it makes it's way to retail. And I'm sure it will at some point because I saw an interview with Kim Braly where he said they would expand on the original TD in the future.

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Callaway Mavrik 15* 3wd Fubuki Ax f65
Callaway Mavrik  Max 21* 7wd Fubuki Ax f75
Callaway Apex 20* & 23* KuroKage Black 80HY
Callaway Apex UT 24* KBS Tour Prototype Hybrid 85
Callaway  Mavrik Pro KBS TGI 5-9 
Callaway MD3 46*/8* & 50/10* 
Callaway MD5 Jaws 54*/10*S & 58*/08*C 
Odyssey/Toulon Azalea or Odyssey WHP #3 
 

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