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I wonder how these are different from last years TD.. I had one and it was good. 

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Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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Last years TD was awesome.  Was as good or a little better than the PX Hulk on a launch monitor for me.  Hopefully the previous version drops in price if these come to retail. 

Titleist TSr4 10.0*  Mitsubishi WB 63 tx  
TaylorMade BRNR Mini 13.5* Kai'li white- tx
Srixon ZX5 (4-6) ZX7 (7-pw) KBS tour 130-x
Mizuno T20 51* TT x-100

Callaway Full Toe 54*, 60* TT x-100
Callaway PM Grind 64*
Toulon First Run Las Vegas DB

Pro V1

 

 

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2 minutes ago, getair23 said:

Last years TD was awesome.  Was as good or a little better than the PX Hulk on a launch monitor for me.  Hopefully the previous version drops in price if these come to retail. 

I still have mine. I cut it down to 3 wood length. Really wish I had not done that.. But experiments must be done and sometimes there are mistakes.. 

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Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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5 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

I still have mine. I cut it down to 3 wood length. Really wish I had not done that.. But experiments must be done and sometimes there are mistakes.. 

It is the cost of doing business. Haha. I saw this thread pop up and I got to wondering if you stuck with this. 

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Cobra LTDx LS 10.5* w/Kai'Li 70TX
Ping G430 Max 15* w/OG Ventus Blue 7X
Titleist TSR2 7w w/Ventus Red TR 8X
Cobra King CB 4-PW w/KBS $Taper
Bettinardi BB1 w/UST Mamiya All-In Graphite 
Mizuno Copper T22 52, 56, 60 w/MCA MMT 125TX Wedge Shafts
TP5, Z Star XV, CSXLS

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Just now, radiman said:

It is the cost of doing business. Haha. I saw this thread pop up and I got to wondering if you stuck with this. 

well, I do still have it.. So, kinda.. I just am stupid.

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Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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5 hours ago, getair23 said:

Last years TD was awesome.  Was as good or a little better than the PX Hulk on a launch monitor for me.  Hopefully the previous version drops in price if these come to retail. 

Absolutely is !   I fell into one in a mavrik combo and boy do I hit it good.   I too tested it against the hulk , and wasnt a real contest.  The TD beat it in feel , dispersion and overall spin / launch numbers.   Best part is , it translates to the course.  

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Callaway epic max LS 9* GD-M9003 7x 

TM Sim2 max tour  16* GD  ADHD 8x 

srixon zx 19* elements 9F5T 

Cobra king SZ 25.5* KBS TD cat 5 70 

TM p7mc 5-pw Mmt125tx 

Mizuno T22 raw 52-56-60 s400

LAB Mezz Max armlock 

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13 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

I wonder how these are different from last years TD.. I had one and it was good. 

very underrated shaft and not enough talk on them... ive got it in driver and 3w for my SIM. Love them

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TM Qi10 9* ... KBS TD Serape 60x

TM Stealth 2+ 4w ... KBS TD Rainbow 70x

TM Stealth 2+ 6w*... KBS TD Rainbow 80x

Titleist 5h 23* C1 ... KBS Proto 105 S+

Mizuno Pro 243 5 - P ... KBS TGI 110

TM MG4 50 S, 56 LB, 60 TW... KBS $-Taper 130x

Greyson x Bettinardi SS3 and QB6

 

TaylorMade TP5x

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On 1/20/2021 at 12:37 AM, QuigleyDU said:

I still have mine. I cut it down to 3 wood length. Really wish I had not done that.. But experiments must be done and sometimes there are mistakes.. 

I am interested as to why was it a bad move?

 

I have one and found that on the driver I gained much needed spin and launch from the TD, as I need those two even more in my fairway I cut it and it now has a Ping tip waiting for the G425 Max fairway and if that doenst work out it's going into a Sim2 Max 3hl fairway..

G430 Max 10K Hzrdus RDX Red 60 / Ping G430 Max 5fw KBS TD 70 / Titleist TSi2 4Hy  Tensei CK Pro Orange 80HY 

Ping iBlade 4-PW Modus3 120 / Cleveland RTX2.0 50° DG S200 / Ping Glide3.0 56° DG TI S400 / Ping Glide4.0 60° DG TI S400

Scotty Cameron Phantom 7.5 Stability Tour / Titleist ProV1x

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27 minutes ago, Hedgehog said:

I am interested as to why was it a bad move?

 

I have one and found that on the driver I gained much needed spin and launch from the TD, as I need those two even more in my fairway I cut it and it now has a Ping tip waiting for the G425 Max fairway and if that doenst work out it's going into a Sim2 Max 3hl fairway..

Just in the sense that i cant put it back in a driver and it is possibly a little light to be in a fairway wood. Their shafts run on the lighter side. Meaning their 70 gram shaft is right at 70 grams before being cut. So cutting it down means it is sub 70 grams.. I should have just left it a driver shaft and if I really wanted to fairway wood shaft I should have gotten an 80 gram shaft.. 

 

Its a weight thing. Maybe not a big deal but I don't like having fairway wood shafts that are lighter than my driver shaft.. 

Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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I love the shaft. I've been playing different iterations of the Fubuki Alpha in my driver(currently Mavrik Max) for years. I went into the J and then the last one was the Fubuki V. 

I was playing KBS Tour V in my previous set of irons and this year went into the KBS TGI iron shafts. Also put a KBS Tour Proto hybrid in my Apex UT and loved it as well as the

 new iron shafts. So I figured, I have to try the TD in my driver. It was literally love at first swing. I did no testing with it at all. Bought one and put it straight in the bag.

Kicked the Fubuki V right out of the bag into my back up Rogue head. 

Callaway Paradym 9* (N/+1) GD Tour AD DI 5/ Epic Speed 9* (N/+1) Ventus Red VeloCore 5
Callaway Epic Speed 15* 3wd Fubuki Ax f65 

Callaway Epic Max 18* 5wd Fubuki Ax f75  
Callaway Rogue ST Pro hybrid 23* KBS Prototype 75 or Apex UT 24* KBS Prototype 85
Callaway Mavrik Pro KBS TGI 6-PW 
Callaway MD3 46*/8* & 50*/10* 
Callaway Jaws Raw 54*/10*S & 58*/8*Z grind 
Odyssey Two Ball Ten Tour Lined Limited Stroke Lab SS Zenergy Flatso 1.0 or

Odyssey 5k Tri Hot #2 Stroke Lab SS Zenergy Pistol Tour
 

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i love kbs iron shafts.  I have never even had a chance to try a kbs driver shaft let alone see one.  Hard to commit to a $150-$200 upgrade on a new driver if they aren't available to test out.  

TSi3 10 @ 10.75 Ventus Black 6x 45"

TS2 15* Hzrdus smoke black 70g 6.5 43"

TS3 18* Hzrdus smoke black RDX  80g 6.5 41.5"

New Level NLU-01 22* and 25* Hzrdus smoke black rdx 100g 6.5
New Level 902-OS 6-P (KBS tour 130x) -1* weak on each

Vokey sm8 50@49/12 KBS $ taper HT 130, Sm9 54@53/10S,

58/4T KBS $ taper HT 125 or 58/8m DGx100 mid TI
L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1 35"/ 69* Press II

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6 hours ago, B_of_H said:

i love kbs iron shafts.  I have never even had a chance to try a kbs driver shaft let alone see one.  Hard to commit to a $150-$200 upgrade on a new driver if they aren't available to test out.  

For Sure! I enjoyed switching into the hybrid shaft in my UT and then the graphite irons, so the TD driver shaft wasn't that big a leap of faith for me. Also reading some positive reviews helped. 

I got mine off eBay for a good price with the adaptor already on it. Came from a Callaway fitting cart I think. I figured if it wasn't for me, I could sell it for what I paid. 

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Callaway Paradym 9* (N/+1) GD Tour AD DI 5/ Epic Speed 9* (N/+1) Ventus Red VeloCore 5
Callaway Epic Speed 15* 3wd Fubuki Ax f65 

Callaway Epic Max 18* 5wd Fubuki Ax f75  
Callaway Rogue ST Pro hybrid 23* KBS Prototype 75 or Apex UT 24* KBS Prototype 85
Callaway Mavrik Pro KBS TGI 6-PW 
Callaway MD3 46*/8* & 50*/10* 
Callaway Jaws Raw 54*/10*S & 58*/8*Z grind 
Odyssey Two Ball Ten Tour Lined Limited Stroke Lab SS Zenergy Flatso 1.0 or

Odyssey 5k Tri Hot #2 Stroke Lab SS Zenergy Pistol Tour
 

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13 hours ago, jgolf215 said:

For Sure! I enjoyed switching into the hybrid shaft in my UT and then the graphite irons, so the TD driver shaft wasn't that big a leap of faith for me. Also reading some positive reviews helped. 

I got mine off eBay for a good price with the adaptor already on it. Came from a Callaway fitting cart I think. I figured if it wasn't for me, I could sell it for what I paid. 

 

for some reason I spin kbs tour 130s less than my old SS x100.  I know its not supposed to be that way but it is what it is.  If I could get a similar result out of my hybrid, 5wood and driver that would be great.  looking for something mid launch and low spin.  

TSi3 10 @ 10.75 Ventus Black 6x 45"

TS2 15* Hzrdus smoke black 70g 6.5 43"

TS3 18* Hzrdus smoke black RDX  80g 6.5 41.5"

New Level NLU-01 22* and 25* Hzrdus smoke black rdx 100g 6.5
New Level 902-OS 6-P (KBS tour 130x) -1* weak on each

Vokey sm8 50@49/12 KBS $ taper HT 130, Sm9 54@53/10S,

58/4T KBS $ taper HT 125 or 58/8m DGx100 mid TI
L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1 35"/ 69* Press II

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On 1/24/2021 at 11:14 AM, B_of_H said:

 

for some reason I spin kbs tour 130s less than my old SS x100.  I know its not supposed to be that way but it is what it is.  If I could get a similar result out of my hybrid, 5wood and driver that would be great.  looking for something mid launch and low spin.  

It's not unusual for a particular shaft to give different results then expected or advertised. You would be playing a stiffer shaft in the TD than I have in my driver. I think I'd say mine is high launch, moderate-low spin. One thing I do know is that the TD shaft has a little more weight in the bottom third of the shaft. Check out the TXG review on YouTube to see more on that.

My guess is this new prototype might be something you would consider once it makes it's way to retail. And I'm sure it will at some point because I saw an interview with Kim Braly where he said they would expand on the original TD in the future.

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Callaway Paradym 9* (N/+1) GD Tour AD DI 5/ Epic Speed 9* (N/+1) Ventus Red VeloCore 5
Callaway Epic Speed 15* 3wd Fubuki Ax f65 

Callaway Epic Max 18* 5wd Fubuki Ax f75  
Callaway Rogue ST Pro hybrid 23* KBS Prototype 75 or Apex UT 24* KBS Prototype 85
Callaway Mavrik Pro KBS TGI 6-PW 
Callaway MD3 46*/8* & 50*/10* 
Callaway Jaws Raw 54*/10*S & 58*/8*Z grind 
Odyssey Two Ball Ten Tour Lined Limited Stroke Lab SS Zenergy Flatso 1.0 or

Odyssey 5k Tri Hot #2 Stroke Lab SS Zenergy Pistol Tour
 

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