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Is it just me or is it hard to follow MCA and all their shaft releases??

I've been told Rickie has the MMT iron shafts in his clubs. I hope to see him the next two days and get photos of him hitting them

I’m interested in following the MMT iron shafts. I might get those in the new Apex Pro

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41 minutes ago, ksavy17 said:

Is it just me or is it hard to follow MCA and all their shaft releases??


They lost me as soon as TX was a totally different shaft as the rest of the series in almost all of their lines.

 

idk what they are doing but they are NOT doing it well. 

Taylormade mySIM2 murdered out 10.5 (Set to 9.75U) Fujikura SpeederTR 661 Stiff Tipped .5"
Taylormade M5 15 set to 14.5 Fujikura Motore Speeder TS 7.3 Stiff Tipped 1"
Bridgestone Tour B 19 Hybrid KBS Proto 85 Stiff
Taylormade M3 3i KBS Tour 105 Stiff
Bridgestone J15CB 5-PW DG AMT S300
Taylormade MG2 52 DGTIS400, MG2TW 56/12 DGTIS400, & Tour Raw Hi Toe 60/09 KBS HiRev 125
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5 minutes ago, bcflyguy1 said:

Oh man, if @MITSUBISHI CHEMICAL does a reboot on the Ahina I might just mess myself.


i mean that Kaili series has a white & blue so you might be in luck

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Taylormade mySIM2 murdered out 10.5 (Set to 9.75U) Fujikura SpeederTR 661 Stiff Tipped .5"
Taylormade M5 15 set to 14.5 Fujikura Motore Speeder TS 7.3 Stiff Tipped 1"
Bridgestone Tour B 19 Hybrid KBS Proto 85 Stiff
Taylormade M3 3i KBS Tour 105 Stiff
Bridgestone J15CB 5-PW DG AMT S300
Taylormade MG2 52 DGTIS400, MG2TW 56/12 DGTIS400, & Tour Raw Hi Toe 60/09 KBS HiRev 125
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@MITSUBISHI CHEMICALresurrecting some old shaft (names) updated with modern materials. 
 

The Tensei White 1K will get a long look from me!

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Callaway Epic Speed 9° driver Tensei Pro White 1K 50 S Flex

Callaway Mavrik 15° fairway wood Tensei Pro Blue 60 S Flex

Callaway Mavrik 20° hybrid Tensei Pro Blue Hybrid 70S Flex

Callaway Mavrik 23° hybrid Tensei Pro Blue Hybrid 80 S Flex

Mizuno JPX 921 Forged 4-PW & GW Modus3 Tour 120 S flex

Mizuno T20 Raw Wedges 50-07 Modus3 Tour 120 S flex

Mizuno T20 Raw Wedges 55-13 and 60-06 Modus3 125 Wedge

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12 hours ago, ksavy17 said:

Is it just me or is it hard to follow MCA and all their shaft releases??

 

I feel like it's the driver race all over again. How many times can we release a similar product under a newer name to get consumers to shell out $$$ for marginal improvements, if any.

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12 hours ago, ignitewvu said:


They lost me as soon as TX was a totally different shaft as the rest of the series in almost all of their lines.

 

idk what they are doing but they are NOT doing it well. 

 

The TX is almost always a bit of a different profile for every company. TX does not equate to something like a 2X stiff. It is almost always more of an alternate or specific flex. 

Driver: Titleist TSi3 Ventus blue 7X

3 wood: Titleist Tsi3 16.5 Haz RDX black 70 X flex

& Wood: Titleist TSi2 Ventus Red 9X
Taylormade Gapr low 2 ventus blue 9x
4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
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I have a Kai'li 80 stiff in my 5 wood the I love. I have no reason to try this out but im curious how similar it is to the original. I loved the ION finish on the original.

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58 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

 

The TX is almost always a bit of a different profile for every company. TX does not equate to something like a 2X stiff. It is almost always more of an alternate or specific flex. 

 

Totally Disagree See the AV Lines, The Kuro Kage XT TX, The Diamana D+ lines.....I'm not talking profile they are complete different shafts according to insiders & people on this forum.  Not even made in the same factories.

It's all very confusing and not good business practice.

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Taylormade mySIM2 murdered out 10.5 (Set to 9.75U) Fujikura SpeederTR 661 Stiff Tipped .5"
Taylormade M5 15 set to 14.5 Fujikura Motore Speeder TS 7.3 Stiff Tipped 1"
Bridgestone Tour B 19 Hybrid KBS Proto 85 Stiff
Taylormade M3 3i KBS Tour 105 Stiff
Bridgestone J15CB 5-PW DG AMT S300
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1 minute ago, ignitewvu said:

 

Totally Disagree See the AV Lines, The Kuro Kage XT TX, The Diamana D+ lines.....I'm not talking profile they are complete different shafts according to insiders & people on this forum.  Not even made in the same factories.

It's all very confusing and not good business practice.

Huh?? I think we are agreeing not disagreeing.. 

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 Ventus blue 7X

3 wood: Titleist Tsi3 16.5 Haz RDX black 70 X flex

& Wood: Titleist TSi2 Ventus Red 9X
Taylormade Gapr low 2 ventus blue 9x
4-PW Cobra king forged CB KBS $ Taper 130 X flex
Wedges 50, 54, 60 Cleveland ZIPCORE
PUTTER; Kronos release long neck
BALL; Bridgestone BX, OR Taylomade TP5x PIX

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Sorry if this has been touched on elsewhere, but what is the Tensei White K?  Is this the 2.0 prototype that has been discussed in other threads?

Driver: TSi3 8.0  - Tensei AV Raw White - 65TX
Fairway: SIM 15 - Tensei Pro White - 70TX
Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 - Tensei Pro White - 100TX
4-P: Titleist T100-S (bent 2 degrees weak) - PX 7.0
Wedges: Vokey SM8 raw 51F, 55F, and 59 low-bounce K - DG TI S400 
Putter: Byron Morgan 615
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CK Pro Blue

AV Blue

MMT

Kaili

Diamana TB, ZF

 

That's a lot of Blueboard out there right now...

 

Edit: not sure if MMT is Blueboard based but it's listed at the same target golfer.

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Titleist TSi3 10* Diamana D+ LTD 60 TX
Titleist TSi2 16.5* Diamana D+ LTD 70 TX
Titleist TSi2 21* Diamana D+ LTD 80 TX

Srixon ZX Utlity 3-iron MMT Hybrid 100 TX

Srixon ZX7 4-AW Black C-Taper X
Mizuno T20 Raw C-Grind 57/11 & Ported 61/07 Black C-Taper S+

Evnroll ER2.2 MidBlade Putter Brushed Black CT Tour

Odyssey Metal X 2-Ball Putter Brushed Black CT Tour
Bridgestone Tour B XS

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The Kaili is one of my all time favorite shafts.  I wonder if this will share any similarities.  I see MR70 on the blue.  But, looks like a black profile too?  I agree confusing.  But, excited to see what comes of it. 

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Callaway Epic Flash SZ 15* Evenflow Black 75 6.5
Callaway X-Forged UT 21* w/Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X
Callaway 2016 Apex Pro 4-PW KBS 130X
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3 hours ago, ProjectX said:

CK Pro Blue

AV Blue

MMT

Kaili

Diamana TB, ZF

 

That's a lot of Blueboard out there right now...

 

Edit: not sure if MMT is Blueboard based but it's listed at the same target golfer.

It is; typical linear EI profile.

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I'm looking forward to reviews of the MMT wood shaft. I want to see comparisons to the Diamana X'17.

Mavrik SZ TD - Diamana x'17 50S

PXG 0317x gen2 19* hybrid - MMT 80S
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5 hours ago, gevans24 said:

I have the Utility iron 105TX in my 3i and it's impressive to say the least. Have had it about 4 months now

Awesome! Good to hear.

Taylormade SIM2 Max 10.5

Taylormade SIM2 Max 3 HL (16.5)

Taylormade V Steel 5 wood (upgrade TBD)

Apex 4-5 with MMT 95 S

Apex Pro 6-PW with MMT 95 S

Cleveland RTX4 50, 54, 58 degree wedges

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Seems Mitsubishi is making different bend profiles and sets with various materials and techniques for different swing mechanics.  When I tested MMT 105S 6i, Tensei AV White AM(2) "S" was not released yet.  Though I liked the feel of MMT it didn't fit me in the manner I was looking for, still a fine shaft. 

 

When Tensei AV White AM "S" was introduced I was able to get my hands a shaft to test, glad I waited.   As it turns out, it fits my mechanics much better.   Nobody uses the term flighted, wonder why?  They use the term Ascension.  In Tensei's case two gram ascensions in shaft weight from 108g wedge to 88g 1 iron; similar to TT AMT Tour White 3 gram ascension, only Tensei is lighter, graphite and offers more long iron shaft options which also suites me better.  Another example of how technology is keeping me in the game.

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  • Titleist TS2 16', Ventus 7 "S"
  • Titleist 718 T-MB 17' 2i Tensei AV White AM "S"
  • Titleist 620 Series 3i-PW Tensei AV White AM "S"
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I'm a big believer in the MMT"s.  LOVE mine and IMO you will be seeing more and more Tour players switching to graphite irons shafts over the next 5-8 years.  I'm talking a noticeable growth not 2 more players.

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Cally Mav SZ 13.5* / Fuji Ventus Black 7X               

Cally Mav Pro 20*  / Fuji Ventus Black 10TX

Honma 737V / Mitsubishi MMT 125TX

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23 hours ago, brettmag said:

I’m interested in following the MMT iron shafts. I might get those in the new Apex Pro

Hit Apex Pro with MMT 95 Stiff shafts. Really really good comboReally really good combo

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1 hour ago, Ed Settle said:

Hit Apex Pro with MMT 95 Stiff shafts. Really really good comboReally really good combo

That’s what I tried too. Liked them a lot. Might want to try the heavier weight MMT for comparison

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Taylormade SIM2 Max 10.5

Taylormade SIM2 Max 3 HL (16.5)

Taylormade V Steel 5 wood (upgrade TBD)

Apex 4-5 with MMT 95 S

Apex Pro 6-PW with MMT 95 S

Cleveland RTX4 50, 54, 58 degree wedges

Odyssey putter

 

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20 hours ago, brettmag said:

That’s what I tried too. Liked them a lot. Might want to try the heavier weight MMT for comparison

I had a set of irons this past year with MMT 105 S. I think these shafts are stiffer to flex. I play Modus 105 S so, that’s were I started. I felt that the 105S shafts were too stiff for me. I could’ve gone down to a 105 R or 95 S. Your mileage may vary 😎

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2 minutes ago, OrangeGravy said:

Who is currently offering MMT as an option, either stock or upgrade? 

Callaway has the 105 weight as the stock graphite in a couple of their options. 

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Callaway X-Forged UT 21* w/Motore Speeder TS 8.8 X
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