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Me or do the shaft choices appear to be uninspiring??

 

Im still a TMAG fanboy , though I’m rocking the tsi3’s now 

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I think Taylor Made is targeting folks that play golf and not golf swing (those obsessed with numbers from TrackMan etc). Technology is about maxed out and with additional scrutiny into driver distance...there isn't much more they can do. I do agree dropping the sliding weight is a rather unusual move...so many out there that just have to have that in their driver...the new generation that have only hit modern technology and never learned to manipulate the ball with a driver like us old school guys....just a thought....

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Was playing around with the mysim2 feature.. Wow.. Not sure I can convince the wifey I need this.. This would be a sick set up though.. 

 

 

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Driver: Paradym 3D Ventus black TR 6x

3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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...add in tax, thats a $900+ driver. Wow, making those G425s from Japan look like a steal 🙄

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Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid 19*

Irons:       Ping i530 5-PW AWT 2.0 matte black shafts, JumboMax STR8 Ultralite grips
Wedges: Cleveland CBX2 48, Ben Hogan Equalizer 52*, Cleveland Full Face 56*, KBS TGI 100 shafts
Putter:     LAB Golf Mezz.1 ACCRA shaft / Directed Force Reno "2.05 Presse IV tweaked" Putter with OG BGT Stability shaft
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Looks more stable with more consistent spin numbers.  Bryan golf added some hotmelt to get the weighting right and got some really good numbers out of it versus the stock head (I trust him over almost anyone mentioned in this thread besides TXG).  Some of the head to heads I have seen in person show that its right up there in ball speed, just a little more consistent spin.  I don't know what people were expecting.  I'd say it's a job well done minus a weight track.  Will probably see the weight track back next year, my guess non sliding but adjustable.

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Watched all the reviews. Complete indifference.  This makes the decision to seriously look at the TSi3 that much easier.  

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Mizuno Pro 243 5-GW Nippon Modus Pro 120X

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7 hours ago, getitdaily said:

The general thought seems to be "why 2 drivers, they're basically the same driver". And numbers-wise, they're a tiny step back from sim. It seems the sim2 will perform a bit better for those who strike high on the face. 

 

The reviews have pretty much confirmed what I thought...sim2:sim as 17m:16m

 

Just really hard to improve on a driver that made a significant leap (16m and sim).

 

I have to say, I hope you're right with your 17 M2 analogy. The 17 M2 was much better for me than the 16 M2. I also didn't find a fit with the SIM even after tinkering with the backweight, etc. Getting fit on Friday, so we'll see what happens. 

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TaylorMade Stealth2 Plus 4 (16.5), HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX 6.5 70g, 42.5"

TaylorMade P790 3 (2021), DG X100 (SSx2)

TaylorMade P7MC Raw 4-PW, DG Mid X100 (SSx1)
TaylorMade MG4 50, 54 - DG S400

Titleist SM9 58T - DG S400
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My theory is that this driver was not meant to replace the OG SIM, but to appeal to the market share of customers that did not fit into the SIM. For instance, I wanted to like the SIM but it did not fit my swing without some serious weighting adjustments. This SIM2 sounds like it would be right up my alley. If you own a SIM and are happy with it, I dont think this is made to get you off that. If SIM was not right for you, this was made to bring you over. Just my theory

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5 Wood: Ping G430 Max 5W - Tensei Pro Orange 80tx

Irons: Taylormade P770 4-PW - Modus 130s

Wedges: Vokey SM8 50.14F Modus 130x, SM9 54.12 - 58.12 - Modus 130x 

Putter: Ping PLD Anser 

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Does Anybody else observe similarities in the Sim2 and Cobra Radspeed’s weighting concept, i.e. focussing weight on the front & rear, to boost MOI?


+1 re @Shupe’s above observation, w.r.t. Sim2’s focus on Spin robustness /consistency (ie similar to the Cobra 🐍)

 

 

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I hit the SIM2 last night an absolutely loved it. First driver since 2016 that I have even considered switching to. 

 

Then again I was hitting a proper shaft and actually testing it like an intelligent human being before I just immediately disliked it... unlike some YouTubers that may be popular. 

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D - Callaway Paradym TD 10.5 @ N/S w/ Mitsubishi Kai'Li Red 60tx

2H - Ping G430 w/ Accra TZ5 90H M5, FLAT

4H - Ping G430 w/ Aldila Rogue Black 95tx

DI - Ping iCrossover 4iron w/ Tensei CK PRO Orange 90tx

5&6 Edel SMS, 7-PW Edel SMS Pro w/ Accra TZi 105

Wedges - Callaway JAWS RAW 52W @ 51, 56W @ 54, 60X @ 60, 60Z @ 62 w/ Accra iSteel Wedge 120, Z Grind Gamer has a BGT ZNE 130 

Grips - SuperStroke S-Tech Cord (White) 2+2 

Putter - My TaylorMade TP Soto w/ Mitsubishi MMT & SuperStroke Tour 3.0 17 @ 38.5" 

Ball - Bridgestone BXS

SuperStroke TXR1000 Rangefinder, Ping Tour Glove, UnderArmour 

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16 minutes ago, jmorrow020 said:

I hit the SIM last night an absolutely loved it. First driver since 2016 that I have even considered switching to. 

 

Then again I was hitting a proper shaft and actually testing it like an intelligent human being before I just immediately disliked it... unlike some YouTubers that may be popular. 

SIM or SIM 2?

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2 minutes ago, Mookie91 said:

SIM or SIM 2?

 

SIM2 Sorry! I updated my post

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2H - Ping G430 w/ Accra TZ5 90H M5, FLAT

4H - Ping G430 w/ Aldila Rogue Black 95tx

DI - Ping iCrossover 4iron w/ Tensei CK PRO Orange 90tx

5&6 Edel SMS, 7-PW Edel SMS Pro w/ Accra TZi 105

Wedges - Callaway JAWS RAW 52W @ 51, 56W @ 54, 60X @ 60, 60Z @ 62 w/ Accra iSteel Wedge 120, Z Grind Gamer has a BGT ZNE 130 

Grips - SuperStroke S-Tech Cord (White) 2+2 

Putter - My TaylorMade TP Soto w/ Mitsubishi MMT & SuperStroke Tour 3.0 17 @ 38.5" 

Ball - Bridgestone BXS

SuperStroke TXR1000 Rangefinder, Ping Tour Glove, UnderArmour 

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more of your launch stats are dependent on the proper shaft than what head you are playing. it really grinds ma gears when these guys who influence 100s of thousands of people have no idea what they are doing with their own clubs. 

 

4 minutes ago, Jesus g said:

saw a lot of videos, i guess what i took away is that it's critical to get fit for the right shaft. i am not in the market for a new driver but the 3W looks better than last years. i still have the M5 and love the smaller head but i will definitely hit the 3W and see if i like it. 

 

D - Callaway Paradym TD 10.5 @ N/S w/ Mitsubishi Kai'Li Red 60tx

2H - Ping G430 w/ Accra TZ5 90H M5, FLAT

4H - Ping G430 w/ Aldila Rogue Black 95tx

DI - Ping iCrossover 4iron w/ Tensei CK PRO Orange 90tx

5&6 Edel SMS, 7-PW Edel SMS Pro w/ Accra TZi 105

Wedges - Callaway JAWS RAW 52W @ 51, 56W @ 54, 60X @ 60, 60Z @ 62 w/ Accra iSteel Wedge 120, Z Grind Gamer has a BGT ZNE 130 

Grips - SuperStroke S-Tech Cord (White) 2+2 

Putter - My TaylorMade TP Soto w/ Mitsubishi MMT & SuperStroke Tour 3.0 17 @ 38.5" 

Ball - Bridgestone BXS

SuperStroke TXR1000 Rangefinder, Ping Tour Glove, UnderArmour 

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Thanks for the pics! Any way to do a face shot comparison?

 

Yeah I've seen the review videos. Seems like a refinement of the SIM, which is logical and obviously won't inspire the same kind of excitement as a brand new line. Unfair to use this as a criticism. 

 

Excited to hit it!

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1 hour ago, jmorrow020 said:

more of your launch stats are dependent on the proper shaft than what head you are playing. it really grinds ma gears when these guys who influence 100s of thousands of people have no idea what they are doing with their own clubs. 

 

 

And one step further.  Posters in here using those videos as evidence that one driver is better than another.  The same “get fitted crowd” will use an influencers 15 minute video to condemn a product.  I don’t know if the SIM 2 will work for me or not but pretty sure the fact that DJ isn’t playing it won’t make a difference.

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1 hour ago, Mookie91 said:

And one step further.  Posters in here using those videos as evidence that one driver is better than another.  The same “get fitted crowd” will use an influencers 15 minute video to condemn a product.  I don’t know if the SIM 2 will work for me or not but pretty sure the fact that DJ isn’t playing it won’t make a difference.

 

yessir. the hypocracy is incredible. Im really dissapointed in Finch. Him and I have similar profiles so I always use his change in numbers to give me SOME idea of what I might want to test for myself, but him literally saying that it doesnt make sense that a shaft would change the club really put a sour taste in my mouth. These guys have way too big of an audience influence to be making videos that show them in such amateur taste. 

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2H - Ping G430 w/ Accra TZ5 90H M5, FLAT

4H - Ping G430 w/ Aldila Rogue Black 95tx

DI - Ping iCrossover 4iron w/ Tensei CK PRO Orange 90tx

5&6 Edel SMS, 7-PW Edel SMS Pro w/ Accra TZi 105

Wedges - Callaway JAWS RAW 52W @ 51, 56W @ 54, 60X @ 60, 60Z @ 62 w/ Accra iSteel Wedge 120, Z Grind Gamer has a BGT ZNE 130 

Grips - SuperStroke S-Tech Cord (White) 2+2 

Putter - My TaylorMade TP Soto w/ Mitsubishi MMT & SuperStroke Tour 3.0 17 @ 38.5" 

Ball - Bridgestone BXS

SuperStroke TXR1000 Rangefinder, Ping Tour Glove, UnderArmour 

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Hit the SIM2 today. In my opinion, its tweaks off the og SIM. This years is easier to turn over, and just slightly easier to launch. I was able to hit the 9 degree no problem where as last years i had to go up to the 10.5 and crank down to 9.75. 
 

Basically its a slightly lower spinning deeper face 2020 SIM Max. Good, but the og SIM is staying in the bag.

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I'm excited to hit the drivers and fairways. I don't mind the colors on the stock head, but after messing around with the MySIM2 I would love one with all black/gray coloring. 

 

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TM SIM 9* Ventus Black 6TX 
TM SIM Ti 19* Ventus Black 9TX 
TM P790 3 DG X100 

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1 minute ago, CKalma said:

I'm excited to hit the drivers and fairways. I don't mind the colors on the stock head, but after messing around with the MySIM2 I would love one with all black/gray coloring. 

 

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Put a blue aluminum frame with everything blacked out and it looks SICK

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2H - Ping G430 w/ Accra TZ5 90H M5, FLAT

4H - Ping G430 w/ Aldila Rogue Black 95tx

DI - Ping iCrossover 4iron w/ Tensei CK PRO Orange 90tx

5&6 Edel SMS, 7-PW Edel SMS Pro w/ Accra TZi 105

Wedges - Callaway JAWS RAW 52W @ 51, 56W @ 54, 60X @ 60, 60Z @ 62 w/ Accra iSteel Wedge 120, Z Grind Gamer has a BGT ZNE 130 

Grips - SuperStroke S-Tech Cord (White) 2+2 

Putter - My TaylorMade TP Soto w/ Mitsubishi MMT & SuperStroke Tour 3.0 17 @ 38.5" 

Ball - Bridgestone BXS

SuperStroke TXR1000 Rangefinder, Ping Tour Glove, UnderArmour 

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23 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

Was playing around with the mysim2 feature.. Wow.. Not sure I can convince the wifey I need this.. This would be a sick set up though.. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, CKalma said:

I'm excited to hit the drivers and fairways. I don't mind the colors on the stock head, but after messing around with the MySIM2 I would love one with all black/gray coloring. 

 

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Cool AF

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6 minutes ago, CKalma said:

I'm excited to hit the drivers and fairways. I don't mind the colors on the stock head, but after messing around with the MySIM2 I would love one with all black/gray coloring. 

 

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I thought I was going to like the Murdered out version, but for some reason it screams PXG to me...  Can't have that.

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1 minute ago, drbonesvt said:

 

Cool AF

Yeah, I think it would be cool for some of the tour guys to design their own heads. I think that would drive more traffic for this. 

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3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
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4 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

Yeah, I think it would be cool for some of the tour guys to design their own heads. I think that would drive more traffic for this. 

Totally agree, however, most of them I would assume would want to murder it out, but that doesn't market well.  I've always wanted to go custom colors on stuff, but it seems kind of trashy to me for some reason when no one else does.

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12 minutes ago, Shupe said:

Totally agree, however, most of them I would assume would want to murder it out, but that doesn't market well.  I've always wanted to go custom colors on stuff, but it seems kind of trashy to me for some reason when no one else does.

The only issue is I cannot justify the cost just to "look" different.. There is no performance difference. Other than the potentially shaft upgrade. 

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3 wood: Paradym 3d Ventus black TR 7x

19 degree UW: Ventus black TR 8x

Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility Hazrdus black 90 6.5 X

5 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X

Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x

Putter- Mutant Wilson Staff 8802 with stroke lab shaft
BALL; Chrome Soft X

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14 hours ago, BballMike14 said:

I built this one...haven't been brave enough to enter credit card info but in my cart LOL.

 

I am looking forward to seeing what people come up with in live pics in a month or so.

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I love this. I think blacking everything out and then giving your favorite color to the aluminum creates a really pleasing topline at address, and gives a "unique" look for everyone. My credit card is in trouble

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DI - Ping iCrossover 4iron w/ Tensei CK PRO Orange 90tx

5&6 Edel SMS, 7-PW Edel SMS Pro w/ Accra TZi 105

Wedges - Callaway JAWS RAW 52W @ 51, 56W @ 54, 60X @ 60, 60Z @ 62 w/ Accra iSteel Wedge 120, Z Grind Gamer has a BGT ZNE 130 

Grips - SuperStroke S-Tech Cord (White) 2+2 

Putter - My TaylorMade TP Soto w/ Mitsubishi MMT & SuperStroke Tour 3.0 17 @ 38.5" 

Ball - Bridgestone BXS

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