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I noticed that in an IG post. It is IZ or XC at a glance, but IZ makes way more sense.

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I think it is the IZ, makes since for what he's trying to chase, in terms of launching higher and spinning less. I asked my fitter who works a lot with GD to see what they know.

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Titleist TS2 20* - Accra TZ6 M4 85

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1 minute ago, blakemwilde said:

I think it is the IZ, makes since for what he's trying to chase, in terms of launching higher and spinning less. I asked my fitter who works a lot with GD to see what they know.

JT IZ2.jpg

I think they removed the graphics from the shaft.

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The XC gets no love and its a wicked improvement over the DI

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I've gone down the Shaft Spy rabbit hole and found the smoking gun. It's the IZ, probably a 6TX. Graphics are on the shaft, just on the underside. 

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7 minutes ago, J-Zone said:


the XC is the replacement for the BB, not the DI

Not really

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From earlier today in Abu Dhabi

 

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PXG 0811X 9*: Graphite Design AD BB 6X
PXG 0341 15*: Graphite Design AD BB 7X
Callaway GBB 18*: Graphite Design AD DI 9X
Tour issue 913HD 20* Graphite Design AD DI 105X
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No Ralph Lauren and now an IZ. May be he may win some 😋

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I just noticed this too.  Not an XC, I play that shaft and the handle is not white.  Looks to me like an IZ.  Ventus Red seems to be a short experiment, but he seemed to struggle to find his swing with it...

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1 hour ago, jj9000 said:

 

Sorry man.  You may have the IZ correct, but JT can't handle the TX.

 

Too much shaft for him.

 

That shaft can only be handled by 99% of WRX members.

Too right, he's probably swinging IZ5 SR. JT is all about the whip effect.

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2 hours ago, cardoustie said:

Not really

Loving the XC in my TSi3.  It is the updated BB, though.  Almost exact same  EI curve with the updated materials. 

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3 hours ago, Hookasaurus Rex said:

Loving the XC in my TSi3.  It is the updated BB, though.  Almost exact same  EI curve with the updated materials. 

This kind of post makes me want to try the XC.. for more than 5 minutes this time... 

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7 hours ago, J-Zone said:

Feel free to reach out to Bill McPherson at Pro Choice if you’d like to confirm. 

I’ve spoken to Bill and emailed him many times on most of the AD shafts I have ... tipping, recommendations etc

 

MJ, MT, DI, DJ and BB ... and on hybrid vs driving iron configs

 

The XC does not feel like a BB, hit them both, regardless of it being updated version ... I have the BB in 6s, 6x and 7s fwiw

 

XC kicks a lot more 
 

 

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9 minutes ago, cardoustie said:

 

I’ve spoken to Bill and emailed him many times on most of the AD shafts I have ... tipping, recommendations etc

 

MJ, MT, DI, DJ and BB ... and on hybrid vs driving iron configs

 

The XC does not feel like a BB, hit them both, regardless of it being updated version ... I have the BB in 6s, 6x and 7s fwiw

 

XC kicks a lot more 
 

 

It’s the replacement, you better check your research my friend.

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JT obviously searching, although it is interesting that the Ventus Red was what made it to testing over the Blue. It would be interesting to know exactly what he is looking for, especially since he was in the Diamana BF for so long and then the ZF after that. 

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1 hour ago, cardoustie said:

 

I’ve spoken to Bill and emailed him many times on most of the AD shafts I have ... tipping, recommendations etc

 

MJ, MT, DI, DJ and BB ... and on hybrid vs driving iron configs

 

The XC does not feel like a BB, hit them both, regardless of it being updated version ... I have the BB in 6s, 6x and 7s fwiw

 

XC kicks a lot more 
 

 

Off Topic, but what was the difference between DI Hybrid and Driving iron shafts? Feel free to PM.

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XC is an update on BB (BB is still current). It’s essentially filling the same profile, as others have shown with the EI curves, but with newer materials - hence the different feel, but they’re the same profile. It’s exactly the same as IZ being an update on DI. They’re essentially the same profile, but IZ uses newer materials so it feels different (less kick) to DI.

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Not being all that clued up on Graphite Design Shafts, this thread is about as readable as hospital notes - XC, BB, El curves, IZ, MT, DJ, DI, it might as well be in Russian.

 

All I had simply jumped on to say was, that whatever the shaft is, it doesn’t seem to be working too well for JT today. Can barely remember seeing him on the fairway and missing left and right, not great. 

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This won’t last.  I don’t know anyone who loved the blue or whiteboard that loves the IZ.  Or any GD in driver.  I love the DI in 3 wood and hybrid.  In fact it’s the choice I’d make ( pay no attention to the tester shaft in my 3 wood now , the DI is waiting in the wings ) . But I hate - hate -hate the DI and IZ in driver.  Dead feeling , spin machines.  

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