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All my irons are traditional lofts.. They my just have the wrong numbers on the bottom..

Playing with some i3 + blades down here in FL that I grabbed on a "can't leave them alone in the store" deal. 4-U.  Extended them and tossed on iomics   Shafts were CS lite stiff with the cu

Negative ghost rider. Facts on this have been proven otherwise numerous times over the years here. Many older iron designs have vertical COG's lower than many of todays strong lofted irons without hav

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16 minutes ago, rkillian said:

What I came here to say!

 

+1!

 

21 degrees to 50 degrees i believe. Same lofts as my Eye2

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my CB Pro Tungstens have semi-T (?) lofts:

4i = 22* / PW = 46*

 

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From 1974-1994, I played these: MacGregor MT (1971) blades flatsole. The ~ specs...

2i = 22* / 5i = 32* / PW = 52*

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Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

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I generally don't care what the iron lofts are as long as they are set up for consistent distances between clubs. The caveat to that(and which I have just run into with a set I got for a steal from a guy) is when you have to add two gap wedges. That just seems wrong to me. The set in question are a set of Maltby KE4S that will be going to my son's place but I have noticed a couple of Titleist models have two gap wedges and some sets from other companies. Once the gap wedge loft gets below 50° I think its a little ridiculous but that seems to be the trend.

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I play Ping S56's, so 47 degree PW and keep it traditional through to the 6 iron. I bent my 5 iron a bit strong (26.5 degrees) and then go into a i200 4 iron at 22.5 degrees. I like having 15 yard gaps throughout the wedges and irons.  

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All my gamer irons and the ones in my basement are all old and with "traditional" lofts (if you can say a 21 deg. 3 iron to a 48d PW traditional).  My FG-17s and 1971 Wilson Button Backs are really old school lofts (which are 1 club weaker than traditional lofts).

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Taylormade ATV wedges in 54 and 58 degrees with stock steel shafts
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"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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1 hour ago, QuigleyDU said:

All my irons are traditional lofts.. They my just have the wrong numbers on the bottom..

 

Must have the wrong shaft lengths too.

 

47* PW here.. I can hit my clubs far enough thanks

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Yeah, I play TM Tour Preferred (MC/MB combo set) with traditional lofts. 3i is 20, 4i is 23, PW is 47. Going to bend the 8, 9, and PW 1* strong because right now there’s a 5 degree gap between the MC 7i (34) and the MB 8 (39), so might as well get a little more distance out of the 8, 9, and PW.

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Modern Traditional?  I think what mine is called?  Traditional is depending what generation LOL.

TW Tradition Lofts?  49* - PW,  25.5* - 4iron

https://www.taylormadegolf.com/P7TW-Irons/DW-AL447.html?lang=en_US

 

Mine are

46* PW

42* 9

38* 8

34* 7

30* 6

 

etc.   Im just used to the gapping.  My AP2s where these gaps, My Cobra Ampcell pros where these gaps so I ordered my Sub70's the same.

 

Meh keep it simple for now?

 

 

 

 

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I'm in Mizuno blades. One advantage is that I'm able to play with the stock PW (which I bend from 46 to 47) and then just a gap wedge (51-52) and a lob wedge (58-60). Saves a spot for the top of the bag.

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I play Titleist 620 MB/CB irons, lofts and specs are more traditional, but moderately contemporary - PW - 47*, 6i - 31*, 3i - 21*, when equated to my 25yr old MacGregor butter-knife blades where PW were 48/49*. 

 

Since recent installation of composite shafts, yardages are suggesting loft adjustments are not yet needed.  A well struck 5i is 170+ and spin on the green is still getting the job done.  However, they do require attention to details for a nicely struck ball.  I hit 4i the other day a sweet 190yds.   

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Iron set that I use the most is currently set right about where they were from where they were in 2004 (Titleist 735cm, not the stainless set).  Neighbor has a Mitchell loft/lie machine so all the irons (2-PW), are set with 10 yard gaps.  Now I am even more spoiled because said neighbor moved last year & practically gave me the machine.

 

Last year went from steel to graphite & had very little tuning to do for the gaps.  I am currently redoing the irons using Tuttleman's MOI equation, so changing the increments on the shaft lengths from 1/2" to 3/8".  So may be tuning the lofts to get my desired gaps back.

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This is inline with the "death of the 3 iron" article. It sounds like the issue isn't lofts, it's the numbering.

 

I had gotten a gap wedge thinking I was missing something, but I wasn't. I make up the difference with a lighter PW.

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47* PW seems to be the magic frontier here. Lots of players irons with a 46* PW out now, but 45* is becoming more common. 
I have a set with a 48* bent to 47*, and two others with 46* PW. Gaps are more important to me than the actual lofts. A 50* would be pretty noticeable, but as many have said: club up and shut up. I’m comfortable in the 46-48 range. 

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After 10 yrs or so of starter set muscle backs by Ram and MacGregor, my first ‘real’ set of clubs was Hogan Apex 1988 with a 22 deg 3i and 48 deg E (PW).  The 3i was temperamental but I could hit the 38.25” 25.5 deg 4i well.  This reality has remained relatively consistent over the years.

 

Inbound set has a 37.5” 27 deg 6i through a 46 deg PW.  The club designations change but the lofts remain more or less the same.

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For me 47 is traditional, I’m 53 and go back to “semi-modern traditional” as 30 years back when I played university golf

 

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3 hours ago, Chadwickog said:

 

Must have the wrong shaft lengths too.

 

47* PW here.. I can hit my clubs far enough thanks

You are really playing with a "jacked" PW too (at least a real PW).  But keep telling yourself that you are a TRADITIONALIST.  Some people are smart enough to know it only matters that all of your irons fly the right distance and match with your fairways/hybrids and wedges.  Could be a 680 PW bent weak or a T400 W2.

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