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So I'm not sure what to really call these people, I call them ghosters, but I have been through numerous listings where I get an inquiry about an item and some small talk and the buyer then says they want it and they are ready to buy and ask for a paypal address.  So I give it to them and then they disappear.  No further responses, no payment,  DMs are not responded to.  So they get my PayPal info and they are gone.  This happens at least once every time I do an ad.  So who are these ghosters and what are they doing with my PayPal email address?

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Threads like this pop up once every 6 months... nothing you can do but move on. 
 

And they’re more than likely not doing anything with your PayPal address. 

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Its beyond annoying.  Really not hard to let someone know you changed your mind, received a better deal or whatever excuse they have. 

 

I usually follow up once and if they "read" my message and don't respond, I delete the conversation and ignore/block.  

 

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Yeah, I got into a dispute with another member about 2 years ago where he wanted some Vokeys I had. Asked for PayPal and we committed to a price and nothing for about 16 hours. I sold them the next morning to another member for my asking price so I did profit a bit more but then he came back and left negative feedback and put up a thread on DOND calling me out. Luckily I just posted my DMs and the Marshalls removed the negative feedback but my stance still is that if you make a deal and ask for PayPal, pay immediately or at least let me know. If I get a bird in hand, I'm going with that. These ghosts are a problem and it happens all to often.

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51 minutes ago, LPSISCO said:

I think the issue is that there’s no ramifications for doing it. There should be an option in Feedback to address it.

 

Positive.      Negative.     Ghoster.

I like that option!

 

I wonder if marketing companies are mining email addresses for golfers?  Or are they selling known PayPal addresses on the dark web to hack into or something....

 

Thanks for the comments.  It's usually new members with little or no feedback.  But it's hard to not be nice and give out your PayPal when you think they are serious...

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PING G410 17.5 (HZRDUS T1100 85g 6.5)

NIKE Vapor Fly 20* Iron (Modus105x HS)

PING i500 20* iron (DG105x100)

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I don't read much into ghosting. Sometimes people get cold feet when they login to their PayPal and have to take the cash out. Not too much unlike when you pull something off the shelf at the store, walk around with it a bit, but just don't take it to the register.

 

Of course it's a pain in the rear for sellers, but blocking seems extreme. Maybe that person actually buys a lot of stuff and will come back your way later.

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54 minutes ago, RainShadow said:

My Favorites are from the WTB forum. PM them with item they're looking for and they respond with " still trying to decide" , and poof, last contact...

Twice I have had exactly what was asked for in a WTB. I mean exactly-club model, loft, shaft, shaft flex, length. Exactly what was asked for. The response. Nada. Nil. Zilch. I get not responding to offers of things you didn't ask for but the offering the exact item at least deserves a thanks but no thanks.

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1 hour ago, RainShadow said:

My Favorites are from the WTB forum. PM them with item they're looking for and they respond with " still trying to decide" , and poof, last contact...

I stopped reading the WRB forum several years ago - it’s a total waste of time. You can have EXACTLY what the poster is looking for, and they don’t even reply to your PM. 

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44 minutes ago, LPSISCO said:

I stopped reading the WRB forum several years ago - it’s a total waste of time. You can have EXACTLY what the poster is looking for, and they don’t even reply to your PM. 

I started looking a post counts and reputations a notice almost all are newer members.....

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PXG GEN6 XP 2X Black 6-GW MMT 6 or AI Smoke 6-GW Tensei white 75 R

PM Grind 2.0 54 and 58

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On 1/22/2021 at 2:13 PM, awtryau89 said:

Yeah, I got into a dispute with another member about 2 years ago where he wanted some Vokeys I had. Asked for PayPal and we committed to a price and nothing for about 16 hours. I sold them the next morning to another member for my asking price so I did profit a bit more but then he came back and left negative feedback and put up a thread on DOND calling me out. Luckily I just posted my DMs and the Marshalls removed the negative feedback but my stance still is that if you make a deal and ask for PayPal, pay immediately or at least let me know. If I get a bird in hand, I'm going with that. These ghosts are a problem and it happens all to often.

Yep.  I don’t get why, if someone is online asking for PayPal info and saying they’ll buy it, they wouldn’t just immediately pay if they actually want it.  Waiting almost an entire day to pay with no follow up communication and then getting upset because it was sold is the ultimate in entitlement.  

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