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I have just switched my brand allegiance for the 3rd time in my golf equipment life. Went from all things Adams (RIP), to all things Callaway and just switched to PING (except putter that’s not going anywhere). Anyone else bounce from one manufacturer to the other? Successes? Regrets?

PING G430 MAX 10K DRIVER w/ACCRA TZX 255

PING G430 MAX 3W w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200F

PING G425 MAX 7W w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200F

PING G425 5H w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200H

PING G425 6H w/ACCRA FX 2.0 200H

PING G425 6-SW w/ACCRA ICWT 95

PING GLIDE 4.0 60-10S w/ACCRA 105i

PING ZING 2 PLD CUSTOM 

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My allegiance kind of goes by clubs. Driver I'm pretty much a Taylormade guy, hybrids Adams (rip), Irons/wedges Cleveland. I'm not particularly brand loyal, I would play whatever works best for me, in my budget.

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D-Taylormade SIM MAX D Diamana PD 50r

3w- Honma TW-XP1 

17° Adams XTD Ti super hybrid

4h-5h- Tour Edge Exotics ex9

6-AW- Cleveland Launcher XL Nippon Zelos 7

56°- Cleveland CBX Zipcore

60°- Lazrus

P- Odyssey eleven tour lined stroke lab shaft

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My signature says it all... Callaway driver, TM fairway, TEE hybrids, Mizuno irons, Snake Eyes gap wedge, Corey Paul sand wedge, and either Mannkrafted or TP Mills putter.

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Tour Edge c721/HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX

Cleveland Launcher XL Halo 3 wood/UST Elements MK
Ping g410 4h Tensei blue, Ping g425 6h Tensei orange

Maltby TS3 6-Gap w/Nippon N.S. Pro 1050GH

SnakeEyes 685BX 52*/Callaway Jaws Raw 58Z

TP Mills Sycamore Hakd Made, flow neck pencil shaft, 342 grams, Grip Master Roo FL27

Carbon Ringo wide-flange, slant neck, 330 grams

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8 minutes ago, hybrid25 said:

Allegiance? It's don't owe club manufacturers anything. Whatever works for me or attracts my attention.

The only convenience for allegiances would be that clubs can be designed with other clubs in mind to work together. Like hybrids and irons may be designed with the other club in mind.

 

however in general I agree. I’ve got 3 brands in my bag.

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I've been a PING guy for so long that I can't remember the last time I played a non-PING club.  I like the durability of their older clubs, their philosophy of function over form, and the fact that they value their employees so highly.

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Driver PING G SF Tec

Wood PING G (18.5*)

Irons PING G30 (6-SW)

Putter PING DS72 2021 (35")

Bag Jones Classic Stand

Cart Clicgear 3.5+

 

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In the last couple years I’ve been....

a Srixon guy

a Honma fan 

a TM player

always with a smattering of Titleist, Adams 

putter...Toulon Ping Mizuno and currently Beetinardi

 

Looks like Callaway is the only one I’m neglecting!

Titleist TSR4 9° Tensei AV White 65

Titleist TSi3 strong 3w 13.5° Tensei AV White 70

Titleist TS3 19°  hybrid Tensei Blue/Titleist TSR3 24° Diamana Ahina

Titleist T150 5-pw Nippon Pro Modus 125

Vokey SM8 50° F & 56° M SM9 60°M

Cameron Newport w/ flow neck by Lamont/ Cameron Del Mar

 



 

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No allegiance either, but have slowly shifted to primarily Ping. Glide 2 & 3 Wedges, i500 Irons, Ping G410 hybrids, but I have a Callaway Mavrik Driver & 4 Wood. 

 

Had a huge club makeover over the past year, still trying to get comfortable with the i500s. I've only played a handful of rounds with them after replacing Titleist Ap2 710s I played for nearly 10 years. 

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I tend to buy whatever I like that is reasonably fit for me.  Mismatched everything and I buy on discount or used. I have access to high-end simulators and have been fit many many times, so I know what works.

 

I've never understood brand loyalty.  People seem to forget that they are paying an obscene amount of money for a graphite stick with a piece of metal attached to the end of it with cheap glue designed to hit a rubber ball.  For more than a half-THOUSAND dollars for a single club these days, I'd want to know that it is fit to perfection and my favorite thing in every way. 

 

At the same time--  I think you should buy whatever makes you happy.  This game makes me happy and so do shiny new clubs.

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It’s your bag, and your 14 clubs, but I’m going to play the best 14 I can find... that said, half my bag is still Adams... (irons, hybrids and woods).

 

I’ll always give certain companies a shot, and tend to default to vokey wedges... but I’m open to whatever works best... driver usually comes down to if I can get a shaft I like with no upcharge.

As of  10/11/2021

9 Callaway Mavrk Sub Zero with Ventus Black 7X

13 Degree Srixon 3 wood Project X Black 6.5

19 Degree Sub70 939 Pro with Proforce V2

4 Utility Sub70 699u 22 degree Proforce V2

5-GW Srixon Zx5 with Project X 6.5

Sub70 286 54

Sub70 JB Low Bounce 58

SeeMore milled Tri-Mallet fit and built at SeeMore 

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I have bounced around over the years for balls, but I stay true to one ball for the entire season. 

 

These days I am largely a one brand kind of guy, I don't have the energy to follow everything coming out and try everything out and I tend to believe all the Major OEM make good equipment with enough options to suit most players. So when it is time to upgrade I check out the options from the current brand I have, and If I like the newer model I buy it and move on. But I am also the type that plays irons for 5 or 6 years and woods for 3-5. 

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I was all Nike.  Switched to all Ping for the G30 irons and then G driver/woods.  

Now I have a pretty mixed bag.  Still love the Ping driver though.  

G430 LST 9.0 Ventus TR Blue 6s

G430 LST 3 wood (-2 degrees) Ventus TR Red 7s

Stealth 2 Plus 5 wood (-2 degrees) Ventus TR Red 8s 

Stealth 2 Plus 2 hybrid (+ 2 degrees) Tour ADDI 85S

Stealth Plus 2 4 hybrid Ventus Blue 8s

0317T  5-P  PX LZ 6.5

RTX Zipcore  50, 54

Lab Link 1 

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No allegiances. I'm pure mercenary when it comes to sports gear.  

 

It might be different if I had played at a level where I had received some sort of support from a mfr, but alas, that is not the case for my golf game. I'm the customer, therefore, I'm the boss - the supreme dictator of what goes in my bag. I don't owe a gear manufacturer any sort of allegiance.

 

And I've got a Cleveland headcover on my Ping driver. Hah!

 

(7 brands in my bag right now.)

 

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2 hours ago, 14max said:

I've been a PING guy for so long that I can't remember the last time I played a non-PING club.  I like the durability of their older clubs, their philosophy of function over form, and the fact that they value their employees so highly.

I would have to agree with this assessment of Ping products. 

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>Mavrik Max 12.5* 

>Mavrik 16.5* 4w

>Mavrik Max 4, 5, 6, 7 hybrids

>7--SW Dynacraft Prophet Muscle Blade Irons

>MD5 Jaws 58* W grind LW

>Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Putter

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Picking up the game in 1993, and being left handed was tough. My starter set blew and the first company I bought from was ping, but all they had in 1994 were those damn zings LH

 

aftwr those I discovered callaway had a much better selection and have been loyal for that reason. So much of the golf industry ignored the lefty in the 1990s

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I’m pretty much a Mizuno iron and Titleist woods loyalist at this point. Have been in Vokey wedges awhile but may go Mizuno there for my next set. More of a comfort thing than necessarily thinking they are any better. I could easily have played any number of specific models not from those manufacturers.

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Titleist TSi3 10* TPO 1K 60-TX
Titleist 917F3 15* VA Composite Drago 75-X
Titleist T200 3 Utility Build Thump 90-X
Mizuno MP-20 4-9 PX 6.5

Mizuno T20 47-07 PX 6.5

Mizuno T22 52-09 56-10 PX 6.5

Vokey SM9 60-04T PX Wedge 6.5
Special Select Squareback 2 w/ SuperStroke Pistol GT 1.0

ProV1x

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Thought I would’ve been a guy who sets up my whole bag with one OEM and have a “matching set”, but once I realized that no company was paying me or giving any discounts, I realized that doesn’t make sense.

 

I’ll go with whatever club offers the best feel, value, and performance. Just picked up Cleveland wedges last week, and tomorrow I’m picking up a Srixon Driving Iron, which will bring me to 4 OEM’s in the bag (TM, Callaway, Srixon, & Cleveland).

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Callaway Paradym X (11*) / Hzrdus Silver 6.0

Callaway Paradym X (15*) / Hzrdus Silver 6.0

Callaway Big Bertha 23 (19*) / Cally RCH 65 S

Srixon ZX5 (4-PW) / Nippon Modus3 Tour 105 S

Cleveland CBX (48*), RTX 6 Zipcore (52* Mid, 58* Mid) / DG Spinner

Odyssey White Hot OG 7 S

WITB on WRX

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I built my own irons with Dynacraft heads, but my lob wedge, 4 hybrids, 4 Wood, and Driver are all Callaway. I think the reason I choose Callaway because of Callaway pre-owned where I get my equipment at reduced rates. So it is not really an allegiance due to loyalty, it is because of convenience and price.

>Mavrik Max 12.5* 

>Mavrik 16.5* 4w

>Mavrik Max 4, 5, 6, 7 hybrids

>7--SW Dynacraft Prophet Muscle Blade Irons

>MD5 Jaws 58* W grind LW

>Odyssey Stroke Lab Double Wide Putter

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In 2009 I redid my bag completely as I moved away from heavier, stiff flex shafts.

 

Since then, I have been mix of Callaway and Tour Edge. At various times I have played drivers, fairways, irons and wedges from each.

 

Other visitors have included Cleveland CG14 wedges (about six years), and Cobra FlyZ hybrids (three years).

 

One exception: Since 2007 I have played a Ping putter of some sort, except for an 18-month venture with a vintage Slotline Inertial.

 

Basically, Callaway and Tour Edge really fit my eye well. If one of their clubs has the right head and shaft, it only takes me a few shots to get the basic feel.

What's In The Bag (As of April 2023, post-MAX change + new putter)

 

Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5° (base loft); weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Calla Mavrik MAX 5i-PW

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°... MD4: 54°, 58° ||  PutterΨSeeMore FGP + SuperStroke 1.0PT, 33" shaft

Ball: 1. Srixon Q-Star Tour / 2. Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

    * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind replaced MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

     Ψ  Backups:

  • Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced) + Evnroll Gravity Grip |
  • Slotline Inertial SL-583F w/ SuperStroke 2.MidSlim (50 gr. weight removed) |
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How much did each company pay you for your allegiance?

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Callaway Rogue ST Max 10.5°/Xcaliber SL 45 a flex,Callaway Rogue ST Max Heavenwood/Xcaliber FW a flex, Maltby KE4 ST-H 3h/Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby KE4 ST-H 4h/Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby KE4 Tour TC 5h/Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby KE4 Tour+ 6-G/Xcaliber Rapid Taper a flex, Maltby Max Milled 54° & 58°/Xcaliber Wedge 85 r flex, Mizuno Bettinardi C06

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I played a lot of Ping stuff for years because they always catered to us lefties. But I've never been stuck on one brand since that would suck the fun out of trying different stuff.

 

Ping G430 Max 10.5

Ping G430 5&7 Wood

Ping G430 19°,22° Hybrids

PXG Gen 6 XP's 7-SW

Ping Glide 58ES Wedge

Ping PLD DS72 

If a person gets mad at you for telling the truth, they're living a lie.

 

 

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Driver: None, but have owned more Ping drivers over the last 20 years than any other brand

3 wood:  whatever works, I have owned 30 of these in the last 20 years

Other woods:  whatever works

Irons:  Something smallish blade length with consistent spin

Wedges: Cleveland guy, have been since high school.  Callaway since Roger joined has snuck in the bag a few times. Tried others, but no go.

Putter:  Sunset Beach or Mannkrafted.  Sorry, I know others are good, but LaMont is my favorite.

 

I tend to not play anything Titleist, this steams from my younger years when everyone had a 975D and played the 384 balata.  I refused to play what everyone else did, so I was Callaway and Maxfli or Precept balls.  It became worse when I owned SSB in that I would not play Titleist(another long story).  The fact that I have a 3 wood from them in the bag shows you how desperate my search was.

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  • Driver - Ping G430 Max 10k - Ventus Black 6X | Ping G430 LST 10.5 - Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI TX
  • 3 Wood - Taylormade 300 Mini 13.5 - Ventus Purple X
  • 5 Wood - Ping G430 Max - Ventus Purple X 
  • 7 Wood - Ping G430 Max - Ventus Purple X | 4 iron - Srixon ZX4 MKII - Axiom 105X
  • 5 - PW Ping BluePrint S - Shaft testing
  • SW - Cleveland RTX6 55* - Fuji Tour Spec 115X | LW - Vokey SM9T 60* - Fuji Tour Spec 115X
  • Putters - Odyssey #7 Knuckle Neck Proto | Odyssey Jailbird Versa Microhinge - Odyssey Tank DBOdyssey Jailbird Ai-One
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No allegiances here, but I have an affinity towards Ping based on years of experience and good customer service with them. They always get the first look.

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Ping G410 Plus Driver, TaylorMade Aeroburner 3W, Cobra F6 Baffler 
Callaway 2015 XR 4, 5 hybrids

Titleist 2021 T300 6-P, 48W, 53W irons

Ping Zing Lob wedge
Axis1 Rose putter

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Before I joined this site I naively thought you were usually supposed to have pretty much one brand of clubs in the bag.  I was Taylormade since my junior set with the bubble shafts but have changed plans along the way.  Now I can be found all over.

Callaway Rogue SubZero 9* 

TEE CBX 119 4wd 16.5*

Wilson Staff FG Tour F5 3h 19*

Wilson Staff C300 Forged 4i

Wilson Staff FG Tour M3 5-GW

Scratch 56* DS

Toulon Atlanta

 

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