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We've all got clubs we hit fifteen or twenty times a round. Driver, putter, favorite wedge. It seems reasonable to spend whatever it takes to get those clubs right for our game. 

 

We've also got clubs that might sit in the bag for several rounds without ever coming into play. My 3 hybrid is like that. It's an old Cobra that I've used for years, and I'm totally comfortable with it. When I need it I'm glad it's there. But it seems like it would be silly for me to spend a few hundred bucks to replace it with something newer, since it's so rarely used these days. 

 

I see so many WITB reports here where it seems like every club is fairly recent, or at least matches to the rest of the bag. Rarely do I see that odd 10-year old club filling the middle part of the bag. Am I the only one who won't spend the money to replace a club that I don't use that often in the first place?  

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This is another area where I seem to be the outlier. Since 90% of my on course time is me by myself hitting balls, I make sure to hit every club every time out.   I play more practice than "

We've all got clubs we hit fifteen or twenty times a round. Driver, putter, favorite wedge. It seems reasonable to spend whatever it takes to get those clubs right for our game.    We've als

It’s not 10 years old, but my M4 7 wood is exactly that club. Hardly used, but it has to be in the bag. It’s a comfort thing. I know what it’ll do every time. It’ll be in my bag for a long, long time.

It’s not 10 years old, but my M4 7 wood is exactly that club. Hardly used, but it has to be in the bag. It’s a comfort thing. I know what it’ll do every time. It’ll be in my bag for a long, long time. I’ve even thought about getting another one on eBay in case mine breaks 

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I would spend whatever it takes to get the right club regardless of how often it’s used. It’s going to be in my bag for many many years or until the grooves are too worn out. Why would I get cheap on any of them? I don’t need the latest, just the best ones for me. 

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Yes, sort of.  My recent example of purchases show that I try to think of it as frequency of use AND how long do I hope my investment will last.  I come from having the same Costco set of dunlop clubs from 2000 to just upgrading for the first time in 2020, so I made an investment across the whole bag these past several months.  The only things I bought replacements for in these past twenty years before 2020 were putters and wedges, which are used most often. 

 

Everything I play with was bought new and in the last year.  I'd love to see my investment in irons get me 10+ years; my wedge I'll replace if I really feel it's wearing out but that should be 5+ years with how much I play; my longest iron is a 190 carry so I have a utility iron on it's way to gap roughly 45 yards between my longest iron, utility, and then driver to cover my tee shots. 

 

I'm solid with the nine clubs I've got and hope to keep until my wedge wears out or I find the need to try a different putter, both I'd sort of mark down as because of frequency of use. 

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55 minutes ago, jmkenn0 said:

I feel like if I have a "lightly worn" club in the bag, that guy is probably getting tossed out for (another) wedge or something that would be used more?  So yeah, I replace it, just with something I hopefully would use more?

 

Makes sense. Everyone is different of course. 

I used to carry more wedges but it seemed to confuse me and sometimes prevented me from committing to the shot. Right now I have a PW, 52* and 58* and that suits my brain better than four wedges. 

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It's a great question and I don't follow the practice of considering frequency and equipment investment.  I may consider it though.... I'm assuming like many others, I read an article, post, or hear from another golfer about a piece of equipment and that typically has me researching and more times than not purchasing to test/try for myself.   Not to hijack your thread and I'm sure it is already discussed in another post, but I need to balance the time and $ investment more wisely when it comes to the buckets of equipment, practice, fittings, lessons, and playing.  I probably over skew on equipment and playing.

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I would suggest that the WRXers who post the WITB segments pay more attention to hardware than those who don't.

 

The WRXers with stable bags are probably less likely to post a WITB in sig area.

 

Other factors include aging. I'm 70, and I've made several changes the past decade have been to lighten shafts to try to recapture distance, or get a friendlier clubhead to help launch.

 

The senior group I played with does a lot of changeover for high-launch drivers, 3W for 5W, and finally dumping 30-year old Titleist DCI 2i and 3i for hybrids.

 

Also, I go regularly (in non-COVID times) to golf expos and PGA section Thanksgiving sales. I can often pick up a new or slightly used club for quite a discount. Often it's a model I hit during demo day past, but just didn't buy at the time.

 

Also, I've been able to sell off some of the clubs on our WRX classified. I now have a positive PayPay balance of about $400 I can use for club purchases.

 

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It's a great question and I don't follow the practice of considering frequency and equipment investment.  I may consider it though.... I'm assuming like many others, I read an article, post, or hear from another golfer about a piece of equipment and that typically has me researching and more times than not purchasing to test/try for myself.   Not to hijack your thread and I'm sure it is already discussed in another post, but I need to balance the time and $ investment more wisely when it comes to the buckets of equipment, practice, fittings, lessons, and playing.  I probably over skew on equipment and playing.

 

Most of us do, right? 

Over the last couple of years I've spent more on lessons and that has felt just as good as buying gear if not better. 

If anything the lessons have helped me understand where to spend or not spend my gear money. For instance, I used to have several different types of putters, so I took them all to a putting lesson and my pro showed me that I set up better using an Anser-style putter than the others I owned. So while I may still shop putters, I don't look at anything that doesn't at least have that full-shaft offset neck that Ansers have.  

I also don't have as much temptation to shop for the latest greatest drivers, because I know my driver swing speed is only around 90mph. My Rogue SZ is plenty modern enough to give me all I can get from a driver, and I just have to live with that fact until I can increase my swing speed. 

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It's a good question. I find myself replacing my hybrids less and less somewhat along these lines

 

I might use my hybrid like 1-2 times a round at most. For whatever reason it's not a club i use a lot at courses i play. So both my hybrids are 4-5 years old now. It's not a priority for me to replace them, they do the job

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It's also possible you don't use those clubs because deep down inside you know they aren't that great. I always try making my weakest club as good as possible. For me it's always been my 3wood off the deck. I run through those more than any club in my bag. I just got the Tsi3. Maybe this year it will be my best club.

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22 minutes ago, Chris S_M_ith said:

It's also possible you don't use those clubs because deep down inside you know they aren't that great. I always try making my weakest club as good as possible. For me it's always been my 3wood off the deck. I run through those more than any club in my bag. I just got the Tsi3. Maybe this year it will be my best club.

 

Have you ever worked on that shot with a pro? 

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Me personally I got lots of clubs in my basement that I haven't used in the while but they're all used from Craigslist and my local Value Village but it doesn't bother me since the average cost of each club is under $10 CDN. 

 

But the more expensive I paid for a single club, the more likely I'll use it more often.

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I have started to pick up stuff that tends to be a season or two out of date. There are normally heads knocking about online that are either new or close to it. 
 

I don’t mind having things a few years old, but there comes a point where it seems like (rightly or wrongly) that you are missing out on the newer tech. 



 

 

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My 3 wood is about 12 years old at this point and I have no plans to replace it. I can still carry it about 265ish off the tee and 240ish off the deck. During a typical round at my club I'll hit it 1-2 times off the tee and 1-2 times into a par 5. 

 

Could I gain an extra 10 yards or so if I upgraded it to a current model? Probably. Would I hit it more frequently if I had 10 extra yards? Probably not. Therefore, I'm sticking with my gamer. 

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I am sure some people on Golfwrx been carrying around clubs they never use.  Not a good habit to get into but a few of my buddies do that.  They have favorite clubs they always pull, even when it makes no sense. 

 

I am big into course management so use most of the clubs in my bag, but which ones depends on the yardage being played, and what course mgt and conditions dictate.  My least used club is 4wd, only used on long Par 5s and really long 460+yd Par 4s when 2 iron isn't enough.  Most of the better golfers I know, like myself, don't carry unused clubs or change irons or scoring clubs very often; it takes too long to reacquaint ourselves with new clubs. 

 

Best guess, you don't see those odd looking clubs in WITB on Golfwrx because there are lots of Club-Ho's that change clubs rather often, hoping to buy a stroke or two. lol  Then there's this; it's more about buying and selling equipment than improving skill with said clubs.  But to each, their own form of torture.  Mine is fighting Father-time and shooting my age.

 

 

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This is a great topic. In the past year I upgraded my driver to the Cobra F9 after a fitting at my local pro shop and liked it so much I considered getting the 3 wood too. Then I realised that would be a pointless waste of money as I use my 3 three wood on average about once per round (only used as an alternative driving club, off the fairway I prefer hybrids). My 3/4 wood is a relatively recent model but only because I picked it up on special for about $90.

 

I also upgraded my putter in the past year after an extensive period trying every putter in the shop on multiple occasions. I had lost confidence in my old putter and on the putting mat in the shop I kept coming back to this model.

 

My wedges are relatively recent additions but only due to wear and tear on the old ones and the desire to try different wedge setups. . 

 

My irons and hybrids are 10+ years old. My hybrids get a lot of use every round but I haven't thought about upgrading as I love them so much. The irons are old trusty's but I am tempted by the more recent offerings and have considered the latest Mizunos, Pings and more recently the Srixon ZX 5 and 7 series. 

 

But the irons 5-PW are fully utilized most rounds.

 

So in answer to the thread topic question I chose to spend top dollar on a new driver and putter as they get frequent use every single round but chose not to spend any money on a new 3 wood purely down to the frequency, or should that be infrequent, use. 

 

 

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I suppose that I don’t fit the premise because I seem to hit every club in my bag at least once each round. Perhaps it’s our course design. Geoffrey Cornish built our course in 1957-1958 and it requires every club in your bag, which I believe to be the mark of a great design. Our club hosted the LPGA Friendly’s Classic for four years in the 1990s and received rave reviews from the players each year. Too bad Friendly’s dropped its sponsorship. 

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I'd like to think that if it's a club that I don't use a whole lot, I'd actually replace it with something that would be used at least once every round. I actually took my 3 hybrid out of my bag as it was rarely used. I do find it funny though, I bought probably my favorite club, with just one hole in mind, but I like it so much that I try to find other uses for it too.

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Great topic and one that I feel like a whole article could be written on.  But, in lieu of doing that, I'll just mention that I would look at how often I hit a certain club in concert with how difficult/impactful to your score the shot required with a certain club is. 

 

I believe there to be an intersection between these two considerations that will guide you through your bag setup most "optimally."  Your Strokes Gained per club is basically this notion in a purely math form, for those that see things from this type of perspective.  The best example that I have is that while I lose the most strokes per round per club with my driver, my strokes gained per shot is slightly lower than the average of my strokes gained per shot of my other 12 full swing clubs.  Therefore, my driver is one of the best fit clubs for my game, at least compared to the rest of my bag.  

 

As you can probably tell, I like this type of bag theorization.  

 

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Yes and no. In a sense I am like you and I don’t spend money on a club that I won’t use. But if there is a spot in the bag that isn’t being used than I spend money trying to find a better bag set up. In your situation if I don’t use my hybrid I’ll pull it out and put in a club that is more useful.  I try to set up my bag to play for the conditions, yardage and course. 

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I think certain clubs are conducive to being in your bag for a long time. I've heard a lot of people on here say if you have a FW wood you love, just keep it and don't worry about it.   FW technology hasn't evolved much. And I think for a lot of golfers when you find one you love, you absolutely know it.  There are a couple of FW woods I regret selling that I'd still play today (PING G20, Wishon 949).

 

I think putters are similar.  It's such an important club in regards to scoring. If you find one you love...

 

 

 

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Frequency of use is irrelevant if it can't turn 3 shots into 2, which is my gripe with most WRX bags.

 

For example, you use your putter constantly - by far the most.  However, most of those putts have pre-determined outcomes.  You'll two putt 98% of the time from 6-39 feet, and one-putt 91% of the time from 3 and in no matter what putter you have.  So the only putts that actually matter for our calculations are between 3-6 feet and outside 39 (the only places where good putters outperform bad putters).  So a typical player hits very few putts during a round that don't have predetermined outcomes.  Its one of the least used clubs in the bag, not the most.

 

The most important has got to be tee club(s).  Putting yourself in play has no substitute for a golfer with a handicap over 5, and you have to do it 14 times a round.

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On 1/27/2021 at 8:10 AM, JermWRX said:

It’s not 10 years old, but my M4 7 wood is exactly that club.

 

Ha Ha, well a couple years old.  I'm thinking that doesn't really qualify, not to mention, seeing your signature, Sim, Sim, Sim, etc, you definitely don't qualify.

 

Someone said "sort of" which I want to say I'm sort of am and I always wait to buy clubs from a couple of years back for my driver, putter, wedges and irons. But...

 

I always splurge on new model long clubs.  My Mini Driver, a couple of DIs and a few hybrids are the latest examples.  This year, a new 3 wood for sure.  Makes no sense I know, but I'm a junkie.

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