Adam Scott...autoflex

[jomatty]

I don’t really understand why so many people want to say this is just hype and nothing new.  If someone had tried and said it was crap, or that it wasn’t worth the money, then I would certainly think that was good information.  I’ve also not hit it, but I’ve seen and read enough reviews from people that seem to be straight shooters, to believe that there is something different going on.  I haven’t heard anyone, aside from wrx’rs that I don’t know and haven’t seen swing or review a club, hit it and say “same old shaft, different paint job”.  If guys like Matt and Ian say that something different is going on with the shaft, then I have no reason to doubt it.  Just the way people look when they waggle it and then take a full swing convinces me something is different.  
All that being said, I’m not interested in getting one.  It would probably suit my swing fairly well, but it is an absurd amount of money to me.  To others, $800 is nothing, and I hope it works out well for them.

I have no idea wether auto flex will work out well for the majority of golfers at different levels.  The price does seem excessive.  But to pretend already that they are “just hype” and nothing new is going on is strange to me...

[jomatty]

7 hours ago, zwiggyz said:

I think the reason they won’t tell people is because they have a certain material that’s inside that they don’t want to patent since if they do, everyone sees what it is and can make a different version of it. They found a niche in the market that they think they can attack so they did. You can’t blame a company for protecting their IP and their one selling point. 
 

I have had one for about 2 weeks and you really do need to get fit properly for one. It works different for everyone but from my own experience, it has been overall positive. I had a heavier head in and it just didn’t feel good and wasn’t working, but I put a lighter head in the drop the SW and this thing is a piss missile. 
 

Has anyone provided an update as to whether or not Scott games it today? 

If I was them I would be worried that some other company would figure out what it’s made of through element testing or whatever, and then make a version where they patent the technology (they did not patent the technology to keep it secret right?).  Wouldn’t that be something if Taylor made released their patented version and auto flex couldn’t make them anymore.

For what it’s worth, I’m a chef and know nothing about patents so there is that...

[SEP1006]

Call it hype, marketing or plain ole BS but it works for me. Also I don't care what color it is or if it plays Yankee Doodle Dandy when you hit it. Bottom line is I went from averaging 136 ball speed to a consistent 140. Picked up 8 - 12 yards on good swings, dispersion is a lot better as well. No more wild shots that were costing me 1 - 2 strokes a round.

 

BTW - I'm playing it at 45" at a hair over D1 swingweight.

[Red4282]

8 hours ago, Valtiel said:

A very lightweight shaft meant to be played at longer lengths to gain speed that may or may not contain some sort of proprietary technology/materials that allows it to behave differently. 
 

Same, especially considering the kind of markup/profit margin there is on premium golf shafts. 
 

The problem is that it cuts both ways. Coming out with something that is supposed to be game changing and revolutionary but then saying "it is a secret though, we can't tell you why" is always going to garner some flak. 
 

Get with the times old man 😅

Yea i mean thats cute that guys on tour like to standout on tv...but that doesnt correlate to real life... how many men you know driving around pink cars?

[Red4282]

7 hours ago, grm24 said:

Sure. Bubba Watson had/has his pink Bi-Matrx shaft. Some years back Fujikura had pink Rombax shafts Yes for men. FTR Scott's Autoflex shaft is not entirely pink.

 

I shudder to think what would have happened had the most popular shaft at one time was bright yellow and purple. Nobody every would of bought it. Wait. What? LOL.

Yea one guy who is on TV. Go to your local club and tell me how much pink you see. Again this is an argument that pink INCREASES sales. And i say thats the biggest garbage ive ever heard.

[bladehunter]

25 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:

 

Yeah, someone let me know when smash factors exceed normal expectations, otherwise...

Right.  And that’s the point whne the USga will outlaw it. 

[bladehunter]

8 minutes ago, SEP1006 said:

Call it hype, marketing or plain ole BS but it works for me. Also I don't care what color it is or if it plays Yankee Doodle Dandy when you hit it. Bottom line is I went from averaging 136 ball speed to a consistent 140. Picked up 8 - 12 yards on good swings, dispersion is a lot better as well. No more wild shots that were costing me 1 - 2 strokes a round.

 

BTW - I'm playing it at 45" at a hair over D1 swingweight.

I’d venture a guess that if you pickup that much it’s because you were playing too heavy of a shaft and/or flex.    If I go up t an 80 plus gram driver shaft , ball speed dies  and dispersion Goes to crap.  Why ?  I’m having to jump all over it to load it 

Edited January 29, 2021 by bladehunter

[SEP1006]

11 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

I’d venture a guess that if you pickup that much it’s because you were playing too heavy of a shaft and/or flex.    If I go up t an 80 plus gram driver shaft , ball speed dies  and dispersion Goes to crap.  Why ?  I’m having to jump all over it to load it 

 

My previous shaft was a Tensei Red regular flex at 49 grams. If I'm not mistaken my Autoflex is 50 grams.

 

So you were 0 for 2 on that guess!! Kind of like my last Lottery picks!!

Edited January 29, 2021 by SEP1006

[Red4282]

8 hours ago, Valtiel said:

A very lightweight shaft meant to be played at longer lengths to gain speed that may or may not contain some sort of proprietary technology/materials that allows it to behave differently. 
 

Same, especially considering the kind of markup/profit margin there is on premium golf shafts. 
 

The problem is that it cuts both ways. Coming out with something that is supposed to be game changing and revolutionary but then saying "it is a secret though, we can't tell you why" is always going to garner some flak. 
 

Get with the times old man 😅

Also, thats repeat pictures of the same guy in alot of them lol 😉

[bladehunter]

8 minutes ago, SEP1006 said:

 

My previous shaft was a Tensei Red regular flex at 49 grams. If I'm not mistaken my Autoflex is 50 grams.

 

So you were 0 for 2 on that guess!! Kind of like my last Lottery picks!!

lol.  Well.  There’s no mystical material that will add 4 mph ballspeed.   That’s similar to saying “ I grew 4 inches of hair over night “. It’s a better fit in some form or fashion if that much of a gain was seen.  

[cardoustie]

Well I have a pink shaft in a 5w and it is awesome, NVS 85x, and it matches my MyJoys wingtip shoes

 

I love low weight X and TX shafts and have posted on it before

 

Sounds from the post above it won’t work for me though

 

I am loving my AD XC 6x and it is running 46.25” and E3 .. sounds like heavy heads are NFG with Autoflex tech

 

Let’s remember there was a $1500 black shaft called Crazy in Japan not long ago IIRC

 

Next shaft for me when I get home is a Ventus Red 6x

[Jim53]

Slightly unrelated to the Autoflex topic but the XXIO prime driver comes with a super lightweight shaft that feels like a noodle when waggled but when given a full swing performs amazingly, could this be similar tech that has been around for a while? The Prime I hit was 2 years ago and while I am old and don't have a high SS (100 +/-) the prime was much longer than the Driver combo I was playing at the time and if I remember the Prime at the time was a $700+ driver.

[QuigleyDU]

9 hours ago, Valtiel said:

A very lightweight shaft meant to be played at longer lengths to gain speed that may or may not contain some sort of proprietary technology/materials that allows it to behave differently. 
 

Same, especially considering the kind of markup/profit margin there is on premium golf shafts. 
 

The problem is that it cuts both ways. Coming out with something that is supposed to be game changing and revolutionary but then saying "it is a secret though, we can't tell you why" is always going to garner some flak. 
 

Get with the times old man 😅

For many many years traditionally pink was the more masculine color and red was feminine. 

[zwiggyz]

1 hour ago, Golfingfanatic said:

I was thinking about that, too. If I was Fujikura or Mitsubishi, I'd buy one and check what's going on.

I would have to assume 100% that’s these companies rnd are already trying this. Sometimes it’s more than just reverse engineering something though. Guess time will tell 

[BirdieBob]

Adam Scott ..... 1st round.....  67...  -5

😲

[osubuckeyes691]

42 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

lol.  Well.  There’s no mystical material that will add 4 mph ballspeed.   That’s similar to saying “ I grew 4 inches of hair over night “. It’s a better fit in some form or fashion if that much of a gain was seen.  

I don't really understand why people continue to say "there's no mystical material that will add 4mph ballspeed."

 

At no point in time do I believe anyone has said the "hidden technology" adds ball speeds. The tech in the shaft is what allows a super lightweight, and incredibly flexible shaft to hold up under much faster/stronger swing speeds. That's the tech. 

 

The ability to play a driver shaft that is longer, lighter, AND STILL PRODUCES CENTER CONTACT AND TIGHT DISPERSION is what seems to make this shaft interesting. To this point NO OTHER shaft has been able to do that for people. There's obviously something about it that's different. 

 

I don't know why this is so difficult for people to comprehend

 

and this isn't directed specifically toward you @bladehunter so please don't think it's a way of bashing you

[MysteryV]

So did we not get to see one single Adam Scott / Autoflex drive yesterday?  I watched quite a bit of coverage but it was dominated by Rory / Wolfe / Brooks.

 

Anyone find any clips?

[grm24]

2 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

Adam Scott ..... 1st round.....  67...  -5

😲

50% fairways hit, average measured drives 281.5 yards, long measured drive of 289 compared to his season averages of 56% fairways hit, 312 yard average off the tee. Meh.

Edited January 29, 2021 by grm24

[bfizzy]

31 minutes ago, MysteryV said:

So did we not get to see one single Adam Scott / Autoflex drive yesterday?  I watched quite a bit of coverage but it was dominated by Rory / Wolfe / Brooks.

 

Anyone find any clips?

I don't think they showed much, if any, of him yesterday.  Golf Channel showed him this morning on the driving range and he had the Autoflex in there still.

[1b!ggolfnut]

Stay Tuned... many others coming soon.

Edited February 3, 2021 by 1b!ggolfnut

[Morry]

8 minutes ago, 1b!ggolfnut said:

Stay Tuned... Freddie Couples and many others coming soon.

and a swath of the LPGA ...

 

 

[peteypro]

South course gets better coverage.  He hits a lot of layups so stats are deceiving

 

[ChaosTheory]

4 hours ago, Jim53 said:

Slightly unrelated to the Autoflex topic but the XXIO prime driver comes with a super lightweight shaft that feels like a noodle when waggled but when given a full swing performs amazingly, could this be similar tech that has been around for a while? The Prime I hit was 2 years ago and while I am old and don't have a high SS (100 +/-) the prime was much longer than the Driver combo I was playing at the time and if I remember the Prime at the time was a $700+ driver.

 

I have the same experience and have also raised this question.  So far no one has tried both.

[getair23]

Now if they only painted the Nunchuk shafts bright pink.  Where would they be today

[Valtiel]

5 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

For many many years traditionally pink was the more masculine color and red was feminine. 

 

It is all societal/cultural constructs. Baby boys could be swathed in purple and girls in green for the same price, culturally. 

[Emthree]

I'd love to see the engineering behind it, but I imagine it's some sort of smart polymer that can be tuned to react based on loading throughout the golf swing. Softens up when there's no load (at address and near impact) and stiffens up when force is applied (during transition). Because it's tuned to return to a certain state at impact, it doesn't matter if you swing at 120 or 90 it'll react in the way it needs to in order to get as close as possible to that state at impact.

 

Theoretically brilliant and it'll be interesting to see if takes off.

[BirdieBob]

2 hours ago, grm24 said:

50% fairways hit, average measured drives 281.5 yards, long measured drive of 289 compared to his season averages of 56% fairways hit, 312 yard average off the tee. Meh.

Scott currently in 2nd place!!!!!!!

😆

[8602081]

25 minutes ago, BirdieBob said:

Scott currently in 2nd place!!!!!!!

😆

 

Tied for 1st..  but hail.. Looks like could be delay..

 

[MysteryV]

Can someone explain why the coverage is dominated by putting?  Does ANYONE tune in Thursday and Friday to watch Koepka putt?

 

And I have still to see an Adam Scott drive.

 

GTFO

[NoCalHack]

One thing I know for sure.  If this shaft ever became popular on tour, say as popular as the Ventus, plenty of people on this site would be buying it up.  $800 price tag and all.

 

It's an interesting concept.  Good for them.