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For those of you curious about the X-forged vs TCB and possibility of a blended set... (X-forged on the left in side by side pics)

4 iron, 8 iron and pw.... snapped em real quick... can post more... got a set with steelfiber to try out and a set with my go to nippons... gonna be hard to kick the MBs out of the bag though 

And I’m pretty sure you’re wrong. TCB have a smaller profile with a narrower sole and less offset compared to X Forged.

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4 hours ago, uscgolfguy said:

These shipped out 3 weeks from order date and than sat 1 week in customs.


FML!  Seems every time I try to get something early, I get delayed.  Does not help at all that they won't reply to emails since they won't take international calls.

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On 4/10/2021 at 7:53 PM, Cruisin1966 said:

Thank you

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edit: thanks Amazon for the alert. One pack of 13 came available. 

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5 hours ago, golfer55082 said:

Apex TCB irons look good. But as an owner of both 2013 and 2018 Callaway x-forged irons, I don’t appreciate the fact that Callaway now “downgraded” the x-forged line to make it a “bulky version of Apex TCB”. X-forged irons use to be the the synonym of “classic and pure irons”. Not any more.  

Bulky like SIM 2 irons?  Or...bulky like ZX7?  I think the x forged cbs are classy.  yes, theres a little offset..but nothing crazy.  Hardly a "downgrade"  

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19 hours ago, uscgolfguy said:

Here are a couple shots of the Callaway Apex TCB 4 iron vs. Titleist T100s 4 iron:

 

 

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any chance you could do the 7i?

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well sh*t...when do we have the ability to buy these again????? 

 

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1 hour ago, gioguy21 said:

well sh*t...when do we have the ability to buy these again????? 

 

Paul, you can buy them today.  I'm sure you know a good Callaway rep that can submit your order  <by the way, welcome back>

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Just now, Cruisin1966 said:

Paul, you can buy them today.  I'm sure you know a good Callaway rep that can submit your order  <by the way, welcome back>

thanks for having me back ! lol i wasn't in trouble or anything just took a bit of a hiatus. 

i'll have to reach out to some ppl...

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1 hour ago, gioguy21 said:

well sh*t...when do we have the ability to buy these again????? 

 

The Callaway Apex TCB vs. Titleist T100s are probably the closest comparison there is in my opinion...splitting hairs. I’ll get some feedback posted over the next couple days after some range sessions and playability.

 

Initial thoughts...Apex TCB (same shaft specs:  DG X100 Tour Issue soft stepped):

 

1). Slightly thicker top line vs. T100s. Narrower soles on the Apex TCB vs. T100s at the top end.

2). T100s “appear” slightly longer in blade length (have not measured).

3).  Hit some balls in the net...4 iron vs. 4 iron...tough call, it’s so close on feel.  The Apex feel slightly softer with a little more “crispness” in feedback in a good way.  A little more response on where on the face the ball was struck.  I think it just comes down to personal preference between the two...no winner or loser between them.

4).  I’ll report back on range feedback...

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Might be a dumb question, but are these going to be released "publicly" via Callaway website anytime soon?  I know you can go through a rep but I thought I remembered somebody saying Jaws Forged was going to release with digital presence.  Thought these would be the same.  Regardless, will likely putt an order in but awaiting those elusive lefty comparison pics. 😆  

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22 hours ago, golfer55082 said:

Apex TCB irons look good. But as an owner of both 2013 and 2018 Callaway x-forged irons, I don’t appreciate the fact that Callaway now “downgraded” the x-forged line to make it a “bulky version of Apex TCB”. X-forged irons use to be the the synonym of “classic and pure irons”. Not any more.  


7 iron tcb vs 7 iron 21 x forged

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23 hours ago, golfer55082 said:

Apex TCB irons look good. But as an owner of both 2013 and 2018 Callaway x-forged irons, I don’t appreciate the fact that Callaway now “downgraded” the x-forged line to make it a “bulky version of Apex TCB”. X-forged irons use to be the the synonym of “classic and pure irons”. Not any more.  

I think X forged CB actually looks slightly smaller than x forged 18. It could just be the difference in the finish. Offset is identical according to the Callaway website. 

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22 minutes ago, youngun87 said:

 Its hard to tell form the pictures but does the TCB have noticeably more offset than the T100s?

On paper NO, but to the eye they do look like more the way the hosel is shaped on the Apex TCB.

 

Not sure if anyone else has actually measured or not?

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, V series said:


7 iron tcb vs 7 iron 21 x forged

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Not a lot in it.... both good looking clubs.  The thing is...wtf is callaway even doing??  Release the X-Forged then a few months later, release almost literally the exact same club w/slightly less offset and call it an apex 

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16 minutes ago, chip75 said:

 

Get snapping and don't stop until you run out of space on your phone/camera!

 

7 hours ago, Zigzog said:

Got my set of these this week, happy to post any pictures or answer questions. I got 3 - AW and am very happy with them, love the smaller profile. 

lets see em!

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5 hours ago, Zigzog said:

Here are some pictures, showing the full set in the bag , the 9 iron behind the ball. The PW compared to a Srixon 745 PW. The PW and AW together and then the 3 irons behind the ball. 

 

Clubs are impressive, I love the smaller profile, but I am good ball striker. 

 

 

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I love the look of these, and that you have the 3 and A in your set. How does the A feel compared to a Vokey gap wedge? And how forgiving is the 3 iron compared to say an X-Forged UT 21 degree? I hit a 7 iron at a fitting yesterday, and know for sure a set of TCB's will be making their way to my bag once I can get fit with the right shaft for me.

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On 4/14/2021 at 7:06 PM, uscgolfguy said:

The Callaway Apex TCB vs. Titleist T100s are probably the closest comparison there is in my opinion...splitting hairs. I’ll get some feedback posted over the next couple days after some range sessions and playability.

 

Initial thoughts...Apex TCB (same shaft specs:  DG X100 Tour Issue soft stepped):

 

1). Slightly thicker top line vs. T100s. Narrower soles on the Apex TCB vs. T100s at the top end.

2). T100s “appear” slightly longer in blade length (have not measured).

3).  Hit some balls in the net...4 iron vs. 4 iron...tough call, it’s so close on feel.  The Apex feel slightly softer with a little more “crispness” in feedback in a good way.  A little more response on where on the face the ball was struck.  I think it just comes down to personal preference between the two...no winner or loser between them.

4).  I’ll report back on range feedback...

I would agree on this 100%. I game T100's now. T100 vs 21 Apex Pro no brainer to stick with T100. But T100 vs TCB, splitting hairs as you say. I would say they are softer. The best irons I've had were the 14' Apex Pro's. The fitter said the TCB's are as close as you'll get to those in terms of feel, and I'd agree. Good to hear you say the 4 irons are close. If there is one thing the T100's are way better than my 14' Pro's for, its the 4, 5 and 6 irons being way more forgiving. That'll no doubt be the tungsten working its magic. With the T100 and TCB both being tungsten, stands to reason its a close call. If I can get a different shaft dialed in on the TCB that produces better numbers for me, these will be a worthy replacement to the T100. If however the Tour V I currently have in my T100's remains the best shaft for me even in the TCB, the change wouldn't be worth it. Project X IO seems the best chance of this for me. Oddly, the Project X LS in the TCB produced the heighest spin numbers on the day for me, taking some distance away.

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6 hours ago, Zigzog said:

Here are some pictures, showing the full set in the bag , the 9 iron behind the ball. The PW compared to a Srixon 745 PW. The PW and AW together and then the 3 irons behind the ball. 

 

Clubs are impressive, I love the smaller profile, but I am good ball striker. 

 

 

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Profile on these seems to be smaller than the Z745? I am debating the TCB Vs the ZX7 and want to go with the smaller head with less offset....

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2 hours ago, UKGolfer79 said:

I love the look of these, and that you have the 3 and A in your set. How does the A feel compared to a Vokey gap wedge? And how forgiving is the 3 iron compared to say an X-Forged UT 21 degree? I hit a 7 iron at a fitting yesterday, and know for sure a set of TCB's will be making their way to my bag once I can get fit with the right shaft for me.

 

The A wedge has quickly become a favourite for me, I dropped my Vokey wedges and got the A wedge and a couple of Jaws Wedges. 

 

The A wedge feels awesome, I have been using it around the green also, ball comes off great and is ideal for those pitch and run shots - I play on firm conditions. The Vokey 50 for me was just too big a profile and too rounded, the A wedge is compact and frames the ball great for my eye; can nip the ball nicely - for me sometimes the Vokey sole on the 50 was not a great fit for firm conditions. 

 

The 3 iron is a breeze to hit and launch. I am a + handicap, so don't struggle generally with irons but this launched with a nice powerful flight - very impressed. Have not tried the X Forged, but it launches better than my 745 3 iron. 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, youngun87 said:

Profile on these seems to be smaller than the Z745? I am debating the TCB Vs the ZX7 and want to go with the smaller head with less offset....

Is far smaller, the 745s look huge compared to these - very long blade length. I tried the ZX7, but were not as good as my 745s (they also have the long blade length) and nowhere close to the TCBs. For me the ZX7 did not launch as well, and to me were more like some of the other modern lofted options. I know they have standard lofts, but didn't come off the face like it for me. 

 

I really don't change irons very often, I have had the 745s forever and tried all the new options over the last couple of years. The TCB is the first iron that has made me even think about switching and I am glad I did. 

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2 minutes ago, Zigzog said:

Is far smaller, the 745s look huge compared to these - very long blade length. I tried the ZX7, but were not as good as my 745s (they also have the long blade length) and nowhere close to the TCBs. For me the ZX7 did not launch as well, and to me were more like some of the other modern lofted options. I know they have standard lofts, but didn't come off the face like it for me. 

 

I really don't change irons very often, I have had the 745s forever and tried all the new options over the last couple of years. The TCB is the first iron that has made me even think about switching and I am glad I did. 

I hit my friends ZX7 a few weeks ago.  They launched soooo low for me.  He also bent his a degree strong.  But, much happier with the flight I am seeing with the TCB.

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11 minutes ago, radiman said:

I hit my friends ZX7 a few weeks ago.  They launched soooo low for me.  He also bent his a degree strong.  But, much happier with the flight I am seeing with the TCB.

 

Was exactly the same for me buddy, may have been the modus shaft I tried in them - but doubt it. 

 

I am getting on a bit and the new Project X IO shafts I have in these seem a great fit for me. 

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