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36 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

Reed’s family knows he’s a cheater which is why they had to make the fake NBC editing story. You won’t even recognize what they recognize. 

And yet you have persistently said Reed is a chronic cheater and have one rule break to back it up. And your own post from Wednesday was a bit different.

 

Of course it can be true that in the case of Patrick Reed he *may* have cheated, but that doesn’t mean he always cheats. I’ve played with Patrick and was astonished at how skilful a golfer he was. This is why it’s so sad that there are so many episodes like this with him...
 
And do we know this golf facts tweet account is Reed’s wife?  Curious on that as you have quoted her as starting this mess.

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On 10/27/2021 at 6:48 PM, MUNIGRIT said:

That is the dumbest thing Justine has said now. You can rewatch the clip and he shovels sand 2x.

Umm, I’m not taking a side….other than debating a poster about Reed supposedly being a persistent cheater….but c’mon man.  You can’t say you can see the sand be shoveled so that proves it wasn’t altered!  If the point was trying to blame the camera angle I would agree with you.

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1 hour ago, Holy Moses said:

Tiger has had his share of issues on and off the course. He cheated on his wife. He forgot the drop rules at Augusta. A HD camera zoomed in on the ball at the BMW. The latter was something he should have admitted. The difference between Reed and Tiger’s on-course infractions is that I don’t think Tiger was intending to break the rules. I believe Reed was intentionally trying to break the rules during his rules snafus. 

 

Yikes. I think you’re losing moral authority here bud 

 

knowingly cheating in golf = worst person ever

 

knowingly cheating on your wife = whatever 🤷‍♂️

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On 10/29/2021 at 2:01 PM, miamistomp said:

 Ken Venturi went to his grave believing Arnie bent the rules to beat him  out of the  '58 Masters


 

Can you imagine the hijinks of Arnie and the crew of guys back in the day?

 

Be like all kinds of foot wedges, balls magically appearing in the woods. Barely any cameras around 🤣

 

Then, go hit the hotel bar and pick up the Pidgeon sisters!

 

 

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16 minutes ago, kasting333 said:

Yikes. I think you’re losing moral authority here bud 

 

knowingly cheating in golf = worst person ever

 

knowingly cheating on your wife = whatever 🤷‍♂️


Millions and millions and millions of humans cheat in marriage. Most studies have half or more of men cheating and a large percentage of women also.

 

Cheating on one's spouse is unfortunate. It is also very common and very human. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, kasting333 said:

Yikes. I think you’re losing moral authority here bud 

 

knowingly cheating in golf = worst person ever

 

knowingly cheating on your wife = whatever 🤷‍♂️

 

Ha! I lived in Montana for a bit many years ago. Still remember a bumper sticker I saw on a pick up truck:

 

My wife, yes.

My horse, maybe.

My gun, never.

 

(Don't know why this post reminded me of that.)

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2 hours ago, Shilgy said:

And yet you have persistently said Reed is a chronic cheater and have one rule break to back it up. And your own post from Wednesday was a bit different.

 

Of course it can be true that in the case of Patrick Reed he *may* have cheated, but that doesn’t mean he always cheats. I’ve played with Patrick and was astonished at how skilful a golfer he was. This is why it’s so sad that there are so many episodes like this with him...
 
And do we know this golf facts tweet account is Reed’s wife?  Curious on that as you have quoted her as starting this mess.

I said it’s Reed, his wife, or his family. One long tweet was sent from @usegolfFacts and Reed’s own

account. The same person is tweeting from both and accidentally, or maybe intentionally, wants us to know who is behind it. The email address used to log-in is Reed’s family email address. It’s his dad’s I believe. Justine’s account certainly has Patrick’s stamp of approval. 
 

There isn’t much of a debate on this. Justine wants us to know this is her so she can get her $0.02 cents out without being official. 

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1 hour ago, kasting333 said:

Yikes. I think you’re losing moral authority here bud 

 

knowingly cheating in golf = worst person ever

 

knowingly cheating on your wife = whatever 🤷‍♂️

This is’t a thread on Tiger. This is a thread on Reed. Just because others have cheated worse in their personal lives doesn’t absolve Reed of his on-course cheating. 

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5 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

I said it’s Reed, his wife, or his family. One long tweet was sent from @usegolfFacts and Reed’s own

account. The same person is tweeting from both and accidentally, or maybe intentionally, wants us to know who is behind it. The email address used to log-in is Reed’s family email address. It’s his dad’s I believe. Justine’s account certainly has Patrick’s stamp of approval. 
 

There isn’t much of a debate on this. Justine wants us to know this is her so she can get her $0.02 cents out without being official. 

His estranged dad?

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Just now, snagy2000 said:

His estranged dad?

Sorry, meant Justine’s dad. When you click on “lost password” on Twitter you get an email sent to you. You can piece together the address because Twitter basically tells you what it is before the email is sent. I think one letter was blocked out. Someone traced it back to the larger Reed family.  

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32 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

Sorry, meant Justine’s dad. When you click on “lost password” on Twitter you get an email sent to you. You can piece together the address because Twitter basically tells you what it is before the email is sent. I think one letter was blocked out. Someone traced it back to the larger Reed family.  

Serious psychoness to trace someone else's account info...

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1 hour ago, Holy Moses said:

I said it’s Reed, his wife, or his family. One long tweet was sent from @usegolfFacts and Reed’s own

account. The same person is tweeting from both and accidentally, or maybe intentionally, wants us to know who is behind it. The email address used to log-in is Reed’s family email address. It’s his dad’s I believe. Justine’s account certainly has Patrick’s stamp of approval. 
 

There isn’t much of a debate on this. Justine wants us to know this is her so she can get her $0.02 cents out without being official. 

Whoa.   Use golf facts uses his dads email to login ??????!!  
 

edit.  I see the retraction now.  Justines dad.  I was about to say.  His dad would make total sense and explain the tweet , and motive behind it. 

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3 hours ago, Holy Moses said:

This is’t a thread on Tiger. This is a thread on Reed. Just because others have cheated worse in their personal lives doesn’t absolve Reed of his on-course cheating. 

Nope, just putting this obsession people have with Reed into perspective. 
 

This is coming from a Tiger fan. 

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5 hours ago, Obee said:


Millions and millions and millions of humans cheat in marriage. Most studies have half or more of men cheating and a large percentage of women also.

 

Cheating on one's spouse is unfortunate. It is also very common and very human. 
 

 

Same with golf 😉 

 

One is still far worse than the other 

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I’m glad I Don’t have to answer for what my dad or father in law might post on Twitter. Far as I know neither are on there. But both are absolutely not fit for public consumption. I’d hate to have folks assume I was in league  with their theories on anything. 

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2 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

I’m glad I Don’t have to answer for what my dad or father in law might post on Twitter. Far as I know neither are on there. But both are absolutely not fit for public consumption. I’d hate to have folks assume I was in league  with their theories on anything. 

Went with laugh but couldn’t decide really if that deserves to be laughed or cried at. This forum is the only place I have any social media presence for a reason.

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On 10/30/2021 at 8:26 PM, Holy Moses said:

Sorry, meant Justine’s dad. When you click on “lost password” on Twitter you get an email sent to you. You can piece together the address because Twitter basically tells you what it is before the email is sent. I think one letter was blocked out. Someone traced it back to the larger Reed family.  

Jesus that is messed up. I hope golf media’s family members get doxed like this. 

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On 10/30/2021 at 5:55 AM, Shilgy said:

She replied to a tweet or whatever that stated that idea.

 

But since you said “persistently”. ….besides the bunker incident what other thing actually happened on tour?

Refresh my memory please.

 

 

 

re plugged ball..

 

I made the point at the time(might have been this thread)

 

Reed(to marshal: 'did you SEE it bounce?'

Marshal: 'no'

Reed(to partners): ' she (marshal) said it didnt bounce'

 

No, Patrick, thats not what she said and you know it. That IS cheating. 

 

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7 hours ago, Shilgy said:

Went with laugh but couldn’t decide really if that deserves to be laughed or cried at. This forum is the only place I have any social media presence for a reason.

Yep.  Absolutely true and same reason I have no account anywhere else myself.  Hate to be part of the collapse of human evolution.  

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2 hours ago, milesgiles said:

 

re plugged ball..

 

I made the point at the time(might have been this thread)

 

Reed(to marshal: 'did you SEE it bounce?'

Marshal: 'no'

Reed(to partners): ' she (marshal) said it didnt bounce'

 

No, Patrick, thats not what she said and you know it. That IS cheating. 

 

If she doesn’t see it bounce , the players don’t see it bounce.  How do we conclude that it did bounce ?  We shouldn’t lean to the opposite of the known observations 

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37 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

If she doesn’t see it bounce , the players don’t see it bounce.  How do we conclude that it did bounce ?  We shouldn’t lean to the opposite of the known observations 

 

I wasn’t making a point about whether it bounced, it was the difference between what she said and what he told his partners she said 

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35 minutes ago, milesgiles said:

 

I wasn’t making a point about whether it bounced, it was the difference between what she said and what he told his partners she said 

Honestly I’d say it the same way most likely.  
 

trying to be objective. But if I ask “ did you see it bounce “ and the answer is no.   I’d likely say “ she said it didn’t bounce “.  Or “ she said she didn’t see a bounce “.   To me.  They mean the same. She doesn’t think it bounced. 
 

which is the info needed to make the call. What other info to go on is there ?  

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27 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Honestly I’d say it the same way most likely.  
 

trying to be objective. But if I ask “ did you see it bounce “ and the answer is no.   I’d likely say “ she said it didn’t bounce “.  Or “ she said she didn’t see a bounce “.   To me.  They mean the same. She doesn’t think it bounced. 
 

which is the info needed to make the call. What other info to go on is there ?  

E evidently you and I don’t get it….in lack of evidence we must convict one Patrick Reed.  I’ve learned in this thread he is a persistent, or is it chronic cheater.  Although I can only for the life of me think of one time he has been penalized on tour.
Dang, he must be a really good cheater to never get caught. 😏

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