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You make a point to mention MIURA'S cost and margin. And then utilize EPON to support your claim. And in your claim, EPON is CHARGING and MAKING MORE than the initial MIURA example.    So if

No one has posted an in hand of these other than the tour photos. I just received a set of C-01 5-P with the 4 iron driving iron. They look really good in person. The chrome is only on the back of the

Don't know anything specific, but forged in Thailand it says at the bottom of the pages.  I believe Endo is forged in Thailand so perhaps endo forged?  Not sure who else forges in Thailand but also po

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So with the blade, they claim that, for the 5, 6, and 7 irons, they insert titanium into the steel billet, and by some trick in the forging technique, get a low, CB-like CoG. Also means they can produce a "CB-like face" (think this means a slightly larger face, due to the titanium being lighter). OK....

What I found interesting is that they appear to mix the titanium with S20C steel (I think this is S1020 carbon steel in US terminology), but in the short irons where they don't use titanium, they use S25C (which I think is S1025 carbon steel in the US). Their reasoning is that titanium makes the steel harder so they use the softer S20C with the titanium, and in the short irons without titanium they try to match the feel by using S25C. 

That's a new one on me. Interesting.

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No one has posted an in hand of these other than the tour photos. I just received a set of C-01 5-P with the 4 iron driving iron. They look really good in person. The chrome is only on the back of the blade, the face is satin. They are shorter heal to toe than I thought from the original pictures but setup really nice behind the ball. Pics below are of the 8 iron and 4 driving iron.

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Damnnnn those are very clean looking!!! 

SRIXON ZX5 9.5 MIYAZAKI MIZORE 60X.                                              SRIXON ZX 13.5 MIYAZAKI MIZORE 70X                                               SRIXON H85 16 MATRIX BLACKTIE 95 SRIXON Z FORGED 4-PW CATALYST 100 6.5                                   CLEVELAND RTX4 50* CATALYST 100 6.0                                        CLEVELAND RTX4 54* CATALYST 100 6.0                                         CLEVELAND RTX4 58* CATALYST 100 6.0.                                             SEEMORE mFGP20 PLATINUM 38” SNELL MTB-X

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Yea. Both of those look pretty dang good at address. 

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Beautiful irons! I always wonder if there are huge differences in forged muscleback irons.  After playing MP-29s to now 620MB (over 20 year span), I don't see a true difference in score. Haha.  The difference in feel (maybe a placebo effect due to hype).  I think with forged muscleback irons, it's all in the setup and how comfortable you feel addressing them.  Its good that newer musclebacks are coming out with a technology difference.

 

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22 hours ago, indianagolf2 said:

The markup jdm crazy high...I know prices for dealers miura....it would nake you sick

That's not necessarily true. I know Miura Dealer Pricing too. Margins on Miura are roughly the same as Callaway and Taylormade. Not a fair assessment. 

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Callaway Epic Flash Star 10.5° Tour AD IZ 7X
Callaway Apex 2H 18.0° Speeder Ion 904X
Callaway Apex 4H 23.0° Speeder Ion 904X
Miura Craftsman Custom CB•301 5-8 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Craftsman Custom TB•000 Raw 9 iCWT Proto 105X
 Miura Hand Grind Raw 4606 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Hand Grind Raw 5210 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Hand Grind Raw 5810 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura High Bounce Raw 6416 iCWT Proto 105X
T.P. Mills Hand Grind Fleetwood Proto Stability 1.0X
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9 hours ago, indianagolf2 said:

Most are making 100 plus per club retail...miura

That's a broad statement for quite the landscape. 

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Callaway Epic Flash Star 10.5° Tour AD IZ 7X
Callaway Apex 2H 18.0° Speeder Ion 904X
Callaway Apex 4H 23.0° Speeder Ion 904X
Miura Craftsman Custom CB•301 5-8 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Craftsman Custom TB•000 Raw 9 iCWT Proto 105X
 Miura Hand Grind Raw 4606 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Hand Grind Raw 5210 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Hand Grind Raw 5810 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura High Bounce Raw 6416 iCWT Proto 105X
T.P. Mills Hand Grind Fleetwood Proto Stability 1.0X
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18 hours ago, indianagolf2 said:

Well I can get epon a club 265..some charge 350 to 450...thats a huge markup. I'm not here to sell or refer any1 for epons..just making a point. Now thats a price bc I know someone..but still the markup seems huge. Anyways, enjoy golf..im not gonna go back and forth to clog up the thread. 

You make a point to mention MIURA'S cost and margin. And then utilize EPON to support your claim. And in your claim, EPON is CHARGING and MAKING MORE than the initial MIURA example. 

 

So if we are all getting ripped off by Miura.....

 

What would you call what EPON is doing to YOU?

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Callaway Epic Flash Star 10.5° Tour AD IZ 7X
Callaway Apex 2H 18.0° Speeder Ion 904X
Callaway Apex 4H 23.0° Speeder Ion 904X
Miura Craftsman Custom CB•301 5-8 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Craftsman Custom TB•000 Raw 9 iCWT Proto 105X
 Miura Hand Grind Raw 4606 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Hand Grind Raw 5210 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura Hand Grind Raw 5810 iCWT Proto 105X
Miura High Bounce Raw 6416 iCWT Proto 105X
T.P. Mills Hand Grind Fleetwood Proto Stability 1.0X
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