E1 Driver Swing Weight TSi3

[Duffner's Waggle]

Had a fitting at Club Champion and the driver I fit into was a Titleist TSi3 8* at 45.5* with an Accra Tour Z RPG 472 M5+ at E1 swing weight. 
 

I know they come from the factory around like D2 or 3…my question is if I were to buy the components and take them to a builder, is E1 possible? That’s a big difference obviously and was curious how That big a change could be created? Thanks in advance!  

[Mitchell]

DW,

As a general rule, club champion seems to recommend some crazy high swing weights  - partly due to their club connection system used for fittings, and partly as a crutch/band aid to change player’s delivery into ball.  Have also seen quite a bias towards shafts that can maximize their spiff or profit margins. While there is no doubt that the Accra and TSI3 combo work well for certain players needing spin reduction, my recommendation for you would be to go to another fitter with Titleist account/TSi weights and get their recommendations on how to proceed based upon available comparable shaft offering on matrix from Titleist. Pretty certain can do so for a much more reasonable amount of funds compared to Club Champion as well.

[Duffner's Waggle]

Just now, Mitchell said:

DW,

As a general rule, club champion seems to recommend some crazy high swing weights  - partly due to their club connection system used for fittings, and partly as a crutch/band aid to change player’s delivery into ball.  Have also seen quite a bias towards shafts that can maximize their spiff or profit margins. While there is no doubt that the Accra and TSI3 combo work well for certain players needing spin reduction, my recommendation for you would be to go to another fitter with Titleist account/TSi weights and get their recommendations on how to proceed based upon available comparable shaft offering on matrix from Titleist. Pretty certain can do so for a much more reasonable amount of funds compared to Club Champion as well.

Thank you, Sensei! They wanted over $1,100 for the setup and over $2,700 for driver/fwy/hybrid. 🤮 Definitely not buying there after a little research into other options. 

[Mitchell]

Now that I am off soapbox, between surefit weights and hot melt that is pretty readily available, sure you can get Mjolnir feel you seek💪😁

[Duffner's Waggle]

Just now, Mitchell said:

Now that I am off soapbox, between surefit weights and hot melt that is pretty readily available, sure you can get Mjolnir feel you seek💪😁

I did really like the feel and results. Could be a throwback to my baseball playing days. Felt a bit like swinging a bat, but club head speed and ball speed were not negatively impacted at all. In fact both increased significantly 

[phizzy30]

6 minutes ago, Duffner's Waggle said:

Thank you, Sensei! They wanted over $1,100 for the setup and over $2,700 for driver/fwy/hybrid. 🤮 Definitely not buying there after a little research into other options. 

That's absolutely ridiculous.  They are charging full retail and then some.  PM me and I will refer you to someone that's a sponsor here who is my go to and you can get a much better deal.  You should be looking at 800 to 900 bucks tops for that setup. 

Edited February 7, 2021 by phizzy30

[Duffner's Waggle]

8 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

That's absolutely ridiculous.  They are charging full retail and then some.  PM me and I will refer you to someone that's a sponsor here who is my go to and you can get a much better deal.  You should be looking at 800 to 900 bucks tops for that setup. 

Hey Thanks! I may reach out, but I actually have a couple options at the moment to source it for about $635 (buy head and shaft separately) and $735 ( totally built and swing weighted). I just want to be sure, based on some feedback I've gotten that I don't need to try and find another fitter to put me through the paces with driver and ensure the right combo. 

Edited February 7, 2021 by Duffner's Waggle

[phizzy30]

5 minutes ago, Duffner's Waggle said:

Hey Thanks! I may reach out, but I actually have a couple options at the moment to source it for about $635 (buy head and shaft separately) and $735 ( totally built and swing weighted). I just want to be sure, based on some feedback I've gotten that I don't need to try and find another fitter to put me through the paces with driver and ensure the right combo. 

Very cool.  Yeah, club champion is a good place for a fitting but their prices on custom fit clubs are ridiculous. 

[Duffner's Waggle]

3 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

Very cool.  Yeah, club champion is a good place for a fitting but their prices on custom fit clubs are ridiculous. 

 

I just wanted to see my numbers on trackman and find something I could buy and stop hoing clubs hoping to find the holy grail with zero science to back it up. The one thing which I think really sways in their favor is the fact that its only their clubs which have the proprietary hosel system. Who is to say that the Accra shaft (Which they wanted $599 for) in my current TS3 head with a little extra weight wouldn't have made a significant difference. 

I fit into a Ventus Blue 7X in the fairway, and I've got one of those coming (also not ordered through them...they wanted another $400) for my TS2 fairway head to try before I splurge on the TSi3 head they were pushing. 

It's great to see the numbers and the Accra shaft was a very clear winner, but again....my combo which I knew wasn't working going into the fitting, could be a shaft away from being great....but that's the nature of the game, I know. 

[mjbfyb]

Unless they changed the weight of the TSi3 head, the D2-D3 stock swingweight seems a little low. I have a TS3 with a 70g shaft at 44.5” with the +6 weight, and it’s around D4. It would be ~D6 at 45.5” with the standard weight.