The Stack System

[Max21]

Haven't seen a post about this yet (unless I missed it). Has anyone pre ordered The Stack System (https://www.thestacksystem.com) ? New speed training created by Sasho MacKenzie and Marty Jertson. Comes with one stick and an app that uses AI to customize the programs around you.  Any thoughts? 

 

I was on the verge of buying speed sticks but this definitely looks interesting.

[leegee38]

It is intriguing to me, too ... but at this point it is iOS (Apple) only.  Sucks for me.

[dlow206]

I ordered it. I sold my speedsticks and used my proceeds towards this. I like that its one stick so i don't have to have multiple laying around. I also like the idea of the app. Plus I always have to buy the new stuff.

[stryper]

I’m all in with the speed thing, but I think the price point is way too high for “one stick and an app”.  If one stick appeals to you, go with max swing speed, and follow the protocol on their free website.  Then if you want to mix things up, go to the speed sticks site and follow their protocol.  Sasho is treading heavily into snake oil territory here. 

[pinhigh27]

Price point too high, maybe if it cost half as much 

[Krt22]

2 hours ago, pinhigh27 said:

Price point too high, maybe if it cost half as much 

Yep, you are basically paying the big upcharge for the "AI". 

[Krt22]

12 hours ago, stryper said:

I’m all in with the speed thing, but I think the price point is way too high for “one stick and an app”.  If one stick appeals to you, go with max swing speed, and follow the protocol on their free website.  Then if you want to mix things up, go to the speed sticks site and follow their protocol.  Sasho is treading heavily into snake oil territory here. 

They all appear to use the same principle of multiple weights. The max swing appears the cheapest since the weights are all the same, speed sticks are 3 specific weights, and this latest appears to offer finer gradations between weights. But yeah, it's the only one with an app to track performance, is that app worth $150-$250 over the other 2....good question.

[pinhigh27]

The radar they recommend is 200, so they're expecting people to spend 600 for swing speed training?.... No thanks.

 

I'm not sure why you need an "AI" app to tell you how to swing faster. They could easily just make a % based program, like basically every other method of training for strength or speed in a variety of disciplines. Everybody trying to cash in on AI hype right now. 

[Jonr44]

Does anyone actually have this system? 

[Max21]

3 hours ago, Jonr44 said:

Does anyone actually have this system? 

I preordered one and should be receiving it soon

[dsmil]

I was very excited about this when I heard Sasho talking about it, but once I saw the price, I couldn't justify it.  I got the max swing speed trainer for $80, which is definitely a better price point for me considering the lack of rounds I'm getting in lately.

[dlow206]

On 4/15/2021 at 5:20 AM, Jonr44 said:

Does anyone actually have this system? 

 

I have it. Say what you will about the price, but i think its a high quality product and the customer service is exceptional. Sasho himself actually called me today to talk through a question I had. 

[Jonr44]

I want to check it out. I have the super speed but this intrigues me 

[Max21]

On 4/20/2021 at 9:31 PM, dlow206 said:

 

I have it. Say what you will about the price, but i think its a high quality product and the customer service is exceptional. Sasho himself actually called me today to talk through a question I had. 

 

Thats awesome. Glad I went for the stack system over the speed sticks. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

On 4/20/2021 at 9:31 PM, dlow206 said:

 

I have it. Say what you will about the price, but i think its a high quality product and the customer service is exceptional. Sasho himself actually called me today to talk through a question I had. 

So DLow you’ve had it about 8 weeks now? According to its website that’s the length for most levels.   How has it worked out?   Have you seen any measurable gains?

[dlow206]

1 hour ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

So DLow you’ve had it about 8 weeks now? According to its website that’s the length for most levels.   How has it worked out?   Have you seen any measurable gains?

 

Been injured for the last 3 or 4 weeks now, so wasn't able to complete the program. Injury happened unrelated to golf, but has prevented me from doing anything swing related. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

4 hours ago, dlow206 said:

 

Been injured for the last 3 or 4 weeks now, so wasn't able to complete the program. Injury happened unrelated to golf, but has prevented me from doing anything swing related. 

Oh sorry to hear that.  Hope you get better and back to playing soon. 

[Max21]

Here’s a screen shot of my progress. Have 2 more sessions left until I’m done with the foundations program. 

[xmanhockey7]

7 hours ago, Max21 said:

Here’s a screen shot of my progress. Have 2 more sessions left until I’m done with the foundations program. 

Seeing that on course?

[ATLgopher]

8 hours ago, Max21 said:

Here’s a screen shot of my progress. Have 2 more sessions left until I’m done with the foundations program. 

BOMBS 

 

[TLUBulldogGolf]

I'm looking at either this or the Rypstick, the app for this and having a program to follow has me leaning to The Stack System. 

[Max21]

16 hours ago, xmanhockey7 said:

Seeing that on course?

For sure. Club longer in all my irons. Right now I'm fighting the worst slice ever with my driver but my 3 wood is currently going further than where my driver was before this

[Max21]

9 minutes ago, TLUBulldogGolf said:

I'm looking at either this or the Rypstick, the app for this and having a program to follow has me leaning to The Stack System. 

Yeah the programs along with the app is great. Tracks your progress, makes you want to beat your personal bests with every swing. Its a great combo

[jas0nmacisaac]

Finished my baseline, I have no idea where they came up with ESpeed.

[TLUBulldogGolf]

Does this seem pretty secure? I'm wondering where people are doing the workouts. 

 

Also, it looks like you need some kind of radar as well?

Edited July 9, 2021 by TLUBulldogGolf

[Carolina Golfer 2]

On 6/29/2021 at 2:17 PM, TLUBulldogGolf said:

I'm looking at either this or the Rypstick, the app for this and having a program to follow has me leaning to The Stack System. 

That was the reason I ended up going wit The Stack, the app and a program that walks you through it.   Plus with Marty Jertson behind it, I figured it has to be pretty solid. 

49 minutes ago, TLUBulldogGolf said:

Does this seem pretty secure? I'm wondering where people are doing the workouts. 

 

Also, it looks like you need some kind of radar as well?

Yes, on the radar.  I have an SC200 and it would not register without hitting a ball.   So I had t spring for the baisc Swing Speed Radar from Sports Sensors for $117.  It worked fine in a quck test this morning.

 

On another note, I'm going to sell my SC200 and Rapsodo as I have preordered a Garmin R10.   I mean how many personal LM's does a guy need...ha

[TLUBulldogGolf]

2 minutes ago, Carolina Golfer 2 said:

That was the reason I ended up going wit The Stack, the app and a program that walks you through it.   Plus with Marty Jertson behind it, I figured it has to be pretty solid. 

Yes, on the radar.  I have an SC200 and it would not register without hitting a ball.   So I had t spring for the baisc Swing Speed Radar from Sports Sensors for $117.  It worked fine in a quck test this morning.

 

On another note, I'm going to sell my SC200 and Rapsodo as I have preordered a Garmin R10.   I mean how many personal LM's does a guy need...ha

 

Is it manual entry on the speed? Seems like they have a voice option. I'm looking at the PRGR they recommend or a Rapsodo now. But that's a lot to shell out for speed training. 

 

Also I don't know if Rapsodo will read speed without hitting the ball. 

Edited July 9, 2021 by TLUBulldogGolf

[xmanhockey7]

5 hours ago, TLUBulldogGolf said:

 

Is it manual entry on the speed? Seems like they have a voice option. I'm looking at the PRGR they recommend or a Rapsodo now. But that's a lot to shell out for speed training. 

 

Also I don't know if Rapsodo will read speed without hitting the ball. 

Get the PRGR. It will track speed without a ball. If you’re going to speed train you need a way to track speed. For the money PRGR is shockingly accurate. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

7 hours ago, TLUBulldogGolf said:

 

Is it manual entry on the speed? Seems like they have a voice option. I'm looking at the PRGR they recommend or a Rapsodo now. But that's a lot to shell out for speed training. 

 

Also I don't know if Rapsodo will read speed without hitting the ball. 

I think it’s only manual.  I haven’t seen a way to do it via voice.  But I haven’t watched all the tutorial videos yet. 
 

I would be willing to make a good deal on a Rapsodo for you.  But as mentioned above by xman it doesn’t record swings only.  
 

If I had not ordered a Garmin R10. I would have gone PRGR as it offers other data points over swing radar. 

[Whiskey_fire]

Has anybody use this that has also used superspeed in the past? I can get the superspeed plus the PRGR radar for the same price as just the stack with no radar. Wondering if it’s worth paying more or not?