The Stack System

[DLiver]

I have been using it off and on for a while, and it definitely has added distance. I am about to turn 68, and I can still hit the ball 230-240 in the air. I do other golf related workouts as well that enable me to handle speed work. I am about to get back into it again after letting a sore back resolve itself (not a golf related problem). IMO, TSS works well if you put the work in and are smart about it.

[GolfTurkey]

4 hours ago, dcmidnight said:

 

I'm (late 40s) doing this as well as Fit for Golf sessions at the same time so I am generally sore - but not injured. Just different from my normal offseason routine which is....not much of anything exercise or golf related.

I’ve been doing a generalised strength and flexibility program for a long time (Gymnastic Bodies) but maybe I should be doing a specific program like Fit for Golf.

 

My thinking at the moment is to push through the last few sessions of the Foundation program and then reduce the load and go onto the Cruiser program. Hopefully I’ll keep my gains and my body can adapt/recover for a while and then I can tackle whatever program the app suggests next.

[philsRHman]

Can someone describe the actual workouts? I feel like I’ve looked everyone and for some reason can’t find a sample.  Even if it’s link to another system’s if similar I just can’t picture what it’s like. Just swinging? Or are there exercises/work outs? I’ve seen the references to the step and swings so I assume that’s a happy Gilmore style. Just trying to decide if it’s something I’d stick to. I see the reference to 25-30 minutes and can’t picture just swinging for that long. 

[DLiver]

You just swing the stick a specific number of times at a specific weight. Sometimes you do "normal" fast swings, and other times you swing out of your shoes. No reverse swings, step swings, etc (at least in the programs I've done). The app also times your rest period between swings, and between weight changes. I'm guessing 1/2 the workout consists of prescribed rest between swings/weight changes.

[Seamus_McDuff]

23 hours ago, philsRHman said:

Can someone describe the actual workouts? I feel like I’ve looked everyone and for some reason can’t find a sample.  Even if it’s link to another system’s if similar I just can’t picture what it’s like. Just swinging? Or are there exercises/work outs? I’ve seen the references to the step and swings so I assume that’s a happy Gilmore style. Just trying to decide if it’s something I’d stick to. I see the reference to 25-30 minutes and can’t picture just swinging for that long. 

Here’s an example

 

 

This is workout 2 of phase 3 of Full Speed Spectrum.  There’s ~12 seconds between swings and three minutes between sets. 

[philsRHman]

Thanks, guys. Does everyone bundle this with a workout regiment? Or is the theory you’ll add speed with the system alone? I’m 45, quite overweight (5-foot-6, 230 lb), but still manage to swing about 110. Been saying for 18 months “this is the week” to commit to Fit for Golf or he’ll just eat a damn salad, do some push-ups and get on the right path. 

[CSagan]

1 hour ago, philsRHman said:

Been saying for 18 months “this is the week” to commit to Fit for Golf or he’ll just eat a damn salad, do some push-ups and get on the right path. 

im with ya man! Maybe after thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years we can finally get to business! 😁

[bcflyguy1]

2 hours ago, philsRHman said:

Thanks, guys. Does everyone bundle this with a workout regiment? Or is the theory you’ll add speed with the system alone?

You’ll see more results and sooner if you pair the Stack with a good gym routine, and you’ll also be less likely to pick up an injury using the stack if you’re in better overall shape.

[Pens #1 fan]

Can you use the is there a way to use stack system without investing extra money for one of the LM. 

[GolfTurkey]

On 11/28/2022 at 6:08 AM, Pens #1 fan said:

Can you use the is there a way to use stack system without investing extra money for one of the LM. 

 

No, it wouldn't make any sense without one of the (relatively cheap) radars like PRGR.

 

It gives you feedback plus it's integral to the programming which adjusts according to how fast you are swinging various weights.

[GolfTurkey]

First foundation completed with somewhat underwhelming results. Driver lost 2 mph, 195g gained 1 mph and all the other weights were +- 1mph.

 

Single hand swings were slower, left hand only -3mph and right hand only -8 mph.

 

I won't panic; I have read pretty much all the Stack threads on all the forums and the "hard gainers" always appear to get their gains eventually, provided that they stick to the program. Would have been nice to get quick gains like the majority, but it was not to be...Neural Drive up next.

[Pens #1 fan]

37 minutes ago, GolfTurkey said:

First foundation completed with somewhat underwhelming results. Driver lost 2 mph, 195g gained 1 mph and all the other weights were +- 1mph.

 

Single hand swings were slower, left hand only -3mph and right hand only -8 mph.

 

I won't panic; I have read pretty much all the Stack threads on all the forums and the "hard gainers" always appear to get their gains eventually, provided that they stick to the program. Would have been nice to get quick gains like the majority, but it was not to be...Neural Drive up next.

Are you using the PRGR, what’s is your baseline swing speed 

[GolfTurkey]

36 minutes ago, Pens #1 fan said:

Are you using the PRGR, what’s is your baseline swing speed 

Yes using the PRGR.

 

Driver baseline 115 -> 113 progress check. 
 

195g stack 102 baseline -> 103 progress check.

[Pens #1 fan]

8 hours ago, GolfTurkey said:

Yes using the PRGR.

 

Driver baseline 115 -> 113 progress check. 
 

195g stack 102 baseline -> 103 progress check.

I’m no where near your speed, I know the system is popular, but to spend an extra $350 for a monitor that is only going to be used for that. At least PRGR is $200. Has anyone used these monitors that stack suggest for practicing and getting numbers. 

[dcmidnight]

As much as I've enjoyed the app over the first few weeks, I'm going to be completely honest and say I just cant see this being worth $99 a year in the long run. It would probably take 10 minutes or so to go through and write down all the workouts you are doing. Maybe it wont be as "neat" as the app in the long run but IMO it just does not seem worth the money.

 

For me at least - this is absolutely an offseason routine, I would never go through something like this during my tournament season or when I have matches every week. But for the offseason I feel like I could create a notebook for myself of the workouts to go through.

 

The club itself is really well made though, I'm impressed overall. And having the junior model makes it a heck of a lot easier for a normal joe with a small place and no outdoor options in the winter. Definitely way better than nothing.

 

The PRGR for me has been spot on, I took it to the simulator one night and every swing was within 1-2 mph of the TM4 readout. Thats fine with me. As I stated, I'm going to be using it to measure gains relative to itself - meaning my baseline on the PRGR is 106 so thats what I'm measuring against, I dont care if its X mph off of some other device.

[dcmidnight]

This week I hit 112 ss at the range - with range balls and layers on in December. 164 ball speed was my max. I was shocked to say the least. I will say one thing about this system, I am learning to swing faster but also more balanced, no Happy Gilmore nonsense. Maybe part of that is not wanting to slam this thing into my basement ceiling and have my wife murder me LOL. But a lot of it is mental IMO - proving that I can swing faster and still hit good playable drives. I'd be thrilled if this was my initial plateau and backed it off a it from here.

 

I will do a longer writeup once i finish the foundation but that is probably a month off.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

Just started this morning. 
Not sure how this fairs, but I must say the app is super helpful with direction and rest periods.

Will update along the way.

[DLiver]

Anyone else slower with step swings? I've tried all kinds of different feels and timing, but I am always at least 5mph slower (often 8-10 slower) with the step swing. I had the same issue with Super Speed program as well.

[ilikegolf26]

Is this worth 3.5x what the Max Swing Speed Trainer costs?

[Max21]

On 1/24/2023 at 9:20 AM, ilikegolf26 said:

Is this worth 3.5x what the Max Swing Speed Trainer costs?

 

I guess it just depends what you're looking for. For the stack, the app itself has so much to offer and they are constantly updating it to include more training regiments so you can change it up often and there is now a putting training program within the app as well. The app just keeps getting better imo

 

 

[dcmidnight]

1 hour ago, Max21 said:

 

I guess it just depends what you're looking for. For the stack, the app itself has so much to offer and they are constantly updating it to include more training regiments so you can change it up often and there is now a putting training program within the app as well. The app just keeps getting better imo

 

 

 

I had an issue with the app on one workout that it was calculating something wrong. I got an email back within minutes, they worked through something on the backend, fixed it, deleted that workout and had me up and running again within a day.

 

Its not cheap. But the club itself is very well put together and so far I'm thrilled with the customer service.

[mattsam]

I’m up consistently 10 mph swing speed.  That pretty much pays for the product.  I’ve only hit a few real shots since starting and all the numbers went up the same.  
 

question- what happens in Phase 4?

 

phase2 is training your body to swing harder.

3 is max speed training.

 

What’s Phase4

 

[JourdanM]

Anyone messed up their on course swing doing this ? 

Edited February 5, 2023 by JourdanM

[Brooks_Cupcake]

9 minutes ago, JourdanM said:

Anyone messed up their on course swing doing this ? 

Superspeed yes, Stack no.

[mattsam]

1 hour ago, JourdanM said:

Anyone messed up their on course swing doing this ? 

No, but I played while I was still on the 3rd level.  And I didn’t go to the range before.  Took me a swing or two to get back into tempo

[dcmidnight]

2 hours ago, JourdanM said:

Anyone messed up their on course swing doing this ? 

 

Nothing like that for me. On course/cruising speed has gone up almost 6 mph in the roughly 3 months since I started this and the Fit for Golf app. The more I use Stack its also changing my mental game - you just get more comfortable swinging faster; especially when you hit the range and start to see the differences.

 

Here are my charts from finishing the Foundation.

 

 

 

 

[Max21]

16 hours ago, dcmidnight said:

 

Nothing like that for me. On course/cruising speed has gone up almost 6 mph in the roughly 3 months since I started this and the Fit for Golf app. The more I use Stack its also changing my mental game - you just get more comfortable swinging faster; especially when you hit the range and start to see the differences.

 

Here are my charts from finishing the Foundation.

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed. I had to take a few months off due to a shoulder injury and am jumping back in today but i feel like while i gain speed with the the stack it also allows me to gain so much control over the club with the added speed. (Does that make sense? Lol)

[darom86]

Haven't been able to hit the range or course since getting going with The Stack.  About 6 sessions in on the Foundations.  Big fan of it so far.  Its a peloton compared to an 80s exercise bike (Speed Sticks).  Good call by the Stack offering a trade in program where you get a discount when you turn in your current speed training tools.  Quick question:  are you all seeing improvements in CHS and ball speed from the program on the range and course?  I am up 6 mph in driver e speed, but not sure how much of that is me getting acclimated swinging hard without hitting a ball (stack website says some people swing 20% slower without hitting a ball or something like that but improve/acclimate pretty quickly).  I don't think I've experienced any true gains yet because my current driver e speed in the app is two mph slower than my last time measuring chs with a trackman on the range in Nov. 2022.  Hopefully will get to that chs number as my e speed in a week or so and continue the gains from there.

 

I am just curious if others were in my boat and wondering if a lot of the initial gains in the app are due to getting comfortable swinging without hitting something and not true gains above and beyond.

 

Still a great product (super impressive), just thinking that some portion of users initial gains (average of 6 to 10 mph of e speed within 6 to 8 weeks) has to be due to acclimating swinging hard without hitting something.

[DLiver]

My experience is that you gain speed on the course without swinging any harder. The speed simply shows up. I also don't necessarily find that my speed increases with the Stack correlate with on-course speed increases. But the speed does show up eventually.

[Jlocke22]

Just ordered today - Let’s go!