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Okay, so admittedly I am someone who has struggled to accept the technology changes over the last 15 years.  Do I agree with most of it, no I don't but I understand the premise behind helping amateur golfers with distance and consistency.  I may never get into adjustable hosels and moveable weights, and this leads to my question here which I would love feedback about.  If anyone has applicable life experience that is great too.  I am seriously contemplating putting a classic set of irons in the bag this year.  By classic I mean something at least 20 years old and my front runners right now are the MACGREGOR JNP JACK NICKLAUS, HOGAN EDGE FORGED, and WILSON STAFF FG-17.  All of them are great in different ways, and being that Michigan golf isn't coming for a couple months I have time to work this out.  But I am really curious as to thoughts, comments, or recommendations of other irons I could consider.  

-Cheers mates!  

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Why do you play golf? I play because I enjoy it, and I enjoy it more with the clubs I grew up on than the modern stuff I have. The most modern clubs I hit last year were my Wilson Goosenecks and I hav

You know, this thread has been nagging at me for awhile.   Maybe it was the trolling response that we “hit our drives 150 yards” and slow down play.  Why is it always assumed that playing with older,

It's a funny question by the OP. Who's crazier: - Golfer A spends $100 on a vintage bag, irons, and persimmons. Hits them at the range and course, accepts the challenge and outcomes, has a good t

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putting the g710s on the shelf

 

also going to play Cleveland classic 310...pretty sure the last oem bonded driver

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there is something about chipping with offset wedges that fits by technique.

 

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There are some great classic blades out there, there are also some others that are total garbage.  Since they didn't have modern tech to create, build and test the clubs sometimes some less than desirable models hit the market, even if the designer thought they made sense.  For example, the '74 Apex are a marvelous design, or the '88 Redlines.  I have hit other models, like the IPT or the bounce sole that seemed almost unplayable to my eye.    

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20 minutes ago, TheDeanAbides said:

I have a set of '99 Apex in my bag and it's hard to imagine them ever leaving, so, yes, go for it. Even a set of '99s are cheap as chips these days. 

Yeah.  I got my '99 Apex Blades in a 2-E for $80 CDN from a former staff pro a couple of years ago.  Thank God I got it before the pandemic since now it probably costs 3X more.

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Titleist 990 (3-PW) with stock Dynamic Gold in S300
Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts (Regular Flex)
2011 Adams Tom Watson signature wedges in 52 and 56 degrees with stock steel shafts (Player's Grind)
Rife Island Series Aruba Blade Putter

 

"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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4 minutes ago, TheDeanAbides said:

That's a great deal! 

Yeah.  I got it from Craigslist and he was asking $100.  They were barely used as he was only a Hogan staffer for a few months until Titleist came along and offered him more $$$.  They were stuck in his basement since the early 2000s and never seen the light of day since.  He really had no clue what they're really worth at the time.

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10.5 deg Titleist 905R with stock UST Proforce V2 Shaft (Stiff flex)
Titleist 990 (3-PW) with stock Dynamic Gold in S300
Taylormade V-Steel 5W & 3W with Grafalloy Prolaunch Red shafts (Regular Flex)
2011 Adams Tom Watson signature wedges in 52 and 56 degrees with stock steel shafts (Player's Grind)
Rife Island Series Aruba Blade Putter

 

"Loft for loft, length for length, and shaft for shaft, the ball will go the same distance when hit on the sweet spot regardless how old the iron."

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1 minute ago, Stephen8802 said:

Why do you play golf? I play because I enjoy it, and I enjoy it more with the clubs I grew up on than the modern stuff I have. The most modern clubs I hit last year were my Wilson Goosenecks and I haven't enjoyed golf so much since High School.

 

I played competitively in High School and College, and I bought modern equipment when it came out, but I stopped enjoying the game. Now I play woods made of wood and forged irons, and I mix and match clubs for every round, and I don't keep score. I just play the hole, work the ball left and right with real golf clubs, enjoy the good shots, and recover from the bad. I like golf better this way.

 

So figure out what you enjoy playing, play that, and don't think too much about it.

Here here! Wise words well spoken!

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12 minutes ago, Foozle said:

I am with you on the Redlines but IPT's? What is unplayable about these, especially the 1 iron! 😁20210222_160216.jpg.056406348f2b72ce153bcc37e31ffc10.jpg

Being serious, I get what you are saying, Gene Sarazen invented bounce to get out of sand back in the '30's but 30 years later when IPT's came out no body had thought to apply it to other irons and so with clubs of that era, or earlier, turf interaction can be axe like and they can be a bit temperamental to play with but still great fun.

As Stephen so eloquently says, play what you enjoy.

For me, part of the pleasure is finding out what you enjoy.

Yeah, the lack of bounce is a challenge! I find my Starbursts to be very solid, but my PC5s are not my friends at all. 

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I'm with you on this one. I grew up gaming the TM burner tour irons from 93'. Every couple years they make it back into my bag for a season. I am so glad I still have them, and other than the juiced up lofts of my T200 irons...I don't see much of a difference at all. 

 

Iron technology to me is a hoax. I do believe fairway woods and drivers have come a long way, however they are maxed out now as well. 

 

@Stephen8802 said it best: "Grab the clubs you want, hit the ball, and if you find it, hit it again."

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Great sets of clubs you are considering.  The only real question I can think of to point out is, are you playing for money and do you want to beat your opponents.  They are probably using more technologically current clubs that can help keep some bad shots in the fairway, and maybe be worth a stroke or two, and a few bets won.

That said, using those classics, I'm sure is a fun challenge.

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Mavrik 4-wood, 16.5 - Evenflow Riptide 65, s
Callaway Super Hybrid, 20 - Tensei Orange 80, r


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Very much a believer in using classic gear.  It's about all I use.  My newest set is a 2011 TP MC set, currently on the bench.  Second newest are the MP37s, which aren't exactly new tech, LOL.

 

Other than those, it's a line of Ram Tour Grinds of various vintage.  Haven't found anything that gives me better results.

 

On the "more interesting to me" side of the ledger, I've spent a lot of time playing persimmons/laminates over the last several seasons.  I've also spent some time hitting smaller drivers, sub-280cc, and have even picked up a Cobra Deep Face that I'm shafting up for 2021...

 

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6 hours ago, BURKMI19 said:

Okay, so admittedly I am someone who has struggled to accept the technology changes over the last 15 years.  Do I agree with most of it, no I don't but I understand the premise behind helping amateur golfers with distance and consistency.  I may never get into adjustable hosels and moveable weights, and this leads to my question here which I would love feedback about.  If anyone has applicable life experience that is great too.  I am seriously contemplating putting a classic set of irons in the bag this year.  By classic I mean something at least 20 years old and my front runners right now are the MACGREGOR JNP JACK NICKLAUS, HOGAN EDGE FORGED, and WILSON STAFF FG-17.  All of them are great in different ways, and being that Michigan golf isn't coming for a couple months I have time to work this out.  But I am really curious as to thoughts, comments, or recommendations of other irons I could consider.  

-Cheers mates!  

I’m playing Apex PC’s. If you can hit em, play em.

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Great response to this post- when I stopped competing I bought a couple sets of 70's blades

Spaulding made a set I couldn't afford as a kid. The Professional's  and a set of the Wilson blades that have just the (Staff tag) on the back. 

Shorter irons with a these are easy to hit and feel great, we all carried 1 irons back then hybrids were 30 years away.

The longer irons 1-4 need center strikes - easy to see why Hogan hit a 7 iron @ 145 yards, shafts and balls were dead but scores were 

really not far off from the boys now.  For those of us who grew up on Balata balls (how sweet they were) blades and 

persimmon heads we had a distinct advantage as ball strikers and shot makers out of necessity-

 

Bring spin back to the golf ball. It's the great equalizer no matter how far you hit it and distance would take care of itself.

Good luck with your endeavor  

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You might be but it's all I do.   My most modern sets are Ping Eye 2s and 1988 Wilson Fluid Feels. Which I'm in the process of selling the Fluid Feels because I don't see much difference between them and the vintage ones. 

 
For the courses I play vintage blades are fine.  I'll never be more than a weekend warrior and the most competitive I get is with my friends who all play modern so what's the point if I'm not having fun beating them with what I found at garage sales?
 
For me the most fun is walking to my local par 3 with a Jones bag filled with a set of late 50s early 60s irons.  I'd rather go dress shopping with my wife than ride around in a cart with a modern set of clubs.
 
I was born in 1982 so I don't know why I'm attracted to the old stuff.  I think it's more so about connecting with the game the way it used to be played.
 
 
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52 minutes ago, thepunch_out said:

My equipment over the past year or two has progressively gotten older and older. It started with a driver fitting which determined I have a strong preference for a heavier swingweight, smaller head design, and a shorter shaft. As the salesman laid out all of my options ranging from $500-850, I thought to myself that this club has already been made and it's available for waaay cheaper than what he was quoting me. The club I was looking for wasn't the newest Titleist, Mizuno, or TaylorMade. What I was looking for was a nice block of persimmon. Much like @coldwareragolfer I'm an 80's baby, so these clubs were long gone from the golf scene by the time I first picked up a club. I had no idea what to expect aside from the stories of how impossibly hard to hit they were when compared to modern gear. What happened next changed my whole outlook on golf and why I play. The first time I pulled that old club out on the tee box and let one fly, I simply could not wipe the smile off my face. Here was this 50 year old Toney Penna that just ripped one down the fairway with a slight fade and rolled out to a comfortable 250 yards, I was floored. It was easily the most pure feeling golf shot I had ever felt. There was no metalic ping piercing your ears, just a nice easy "thump" and the feel in my hands was unlike any drive I had ever hit, it was nirvana. Since then, I've built a nice collection of classic persimmon woods that get regular play and a few sets of classic irons from the past 40 years that rotate in and out as well. Golf has never been more enjoyable for me and it's not because I stopped focusing on score, I'm too competitive for that unfortunately. The old stuff may handicap you a couple of strokes, but I'm not making my living on the course, so what's it matter? 

Another 80s baby!  Scarcer than hens teeth!  I try to find ways I’m connected to this old gear.  Although your post about the simple pleasure this gear brings us is enough, I still try to find a connection.

The only one I can come up with was goofing around on the park district courses as a junior high kid and seeing this gear. Maybe it was something one of your buddies grandfathers or fathers gave them.   Maybe it was something we found at the garbage of the fancy club?  I do know I saw old blades and persimmons when I was a kid so there is some nostalgia there.  Somehow.

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