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It amazes me how far Tony hits driver with his short back swing. This is a still from a video of his drive at 18 on Sunday at Riviera. Captured at the very top of his backswing. It’s almost as if he’s laying up with driver and he still averages 306 yards! The club head speed he generates with that short swing is astonishing. 

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His swing is fun to watch. One thing I have noticed about a lot of big hitters is the forward hand position like Finau's and then turning the left hand over immediately during the takeaway. DJ Johnson, John Daly, Mike Austin and quite a few long drivers use(d) this technique. I use it when I'm swinging my best and hope to have it mastered sometime soon. I have tried everything like the one piece takeaway but I just can't make it work and feel relaxed too.

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"Shirtsleeve" swing technique:

1. Setup: Elbows bent forearms pressed together against shaft slightly forward of center with "Hogan" "active/flexed" leg tension left foot turned out slightly and the right leg slightly farther to the right - weight mostly on balls of feet butt of left hands sits on the top of the grip with very light grip.

2. Swing - W/o disturbing weight distribution of legs and feet lower hands while doing a forward press "swing trigger" then the left upper arm takes over on the backswing, it needs to go out in front of the body then back in front of the chest as the hands trace down initially then up to over the right shoulder "Torres". The goal is to not disturb the pressure of the feet during the initial takeaway.

 

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1. Only swing thought after swing trigger - extend left arm at shirt sleeve when reaching left hand over right shoulder "Shirtsleeve technique".

2. The upper left arm move "Shirtsleeve technique" can be practiced independently without a club, sitting down for instance

3. The correct feet tension can be felt by doing very short hops on the balls of the feet then holding the same feeling of pressure on the front of the feet and then taking three practice swings with the grip very loose in order to not disturb the same pressure on the feet and on the 3rd swing actively do the "Shirtsleeve" move. From there the swing should be done within a matter of seconds to not lose the feel of the legs resisting, this way this is not a learned technique as much as it is a setup technique.

 

 

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What does all this prove ? :classic_blink:

 

That you don't need to get the driver (or any club PHIL) back to parallel to generate max speed ?

 

Take a look at Matt Wolff. Barely gets his driver to vertical,,,,,,, and hits it a mile.

 

I believe the physical evidence says our swings actually begin to decelerate as we approach the ball. Not so ?

 

Perhaps Finau's and Wolff's swings, being as short as they are, are still accelerating into the ball ? :classic_wacko:

 

Wonder how far John Daly would've hit it if he didn't get so far past parallel; almost(?) to vertical (a 2nd time) ?

 

 

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Just now, nsxguy said:

What does all this prove ? :classic_blink:

 

That you don't need to get the driver (or any club PHIL) back to parallel to generate max speed ?

 

Take a look at Matt Wolff. Barely gets his driver to vertical,,,,,,, and hits it a mile.

 

I believe the physical evidence says our swings actually begin to decelerate as we approach the ball. Not so ?

 

Perhaps Finau's and Wolff's swings, being as short as they are, are still accelerating into the ball ? :classic_wacko:

 

Wonder how far John Daly would've hit it if he didn't get so far past parallel; almost(?) to vertical (a 2nd time) ?

 

 

Don’t forget Rahm. Tony def isn’t at his max speed with that swing. So he isn’t maxing out, he’s just freaky enough to be able to avg over 300 with his non max swing and hits more fairways that way. Nice option to have. 

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1 minute ago, TIScape said:

Don’t forget Rahm. Tony def isn’t at his max speed with that swing. So he isn’t maxing out, he’s just freaky enough to be able to avg over 300 with his non max swing and hits more fairways that way. Nice option to have. 

 

Yes, Rahm's another good example.

 

But how do you know Finau's not maxed out ?

 

I'm suggesting that a longer swing isn't necessarily a faster swing.

 

Evidence either way would be welcome. :classic_wink:

 

 

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8 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

Yes, Rahm's another good example.

 

But how do you know Finau's not maxed out ?

 

I'm suggesting that a longer swing isn't necessarily a faster swing.

 

Evidence either way would be welcome. :classic_wink:

 

 

As I stated above he posted a video playing  in Utah I believe, going all out or close to it, and was at 206  ball speed. Don’t remember the exact #. It was a popular video. I’m sure someone else has seen it. Found it

 

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10 minutes ago, nsxguy said:

 

Yes, Rahm's another good example.

 

But how do you know Finau's not maxed out ?

 

I'm suggesting that a longer swing isn't necessarily a faster swing.

 

Evidence either way would be welcome. :classic_wink:

 

 

 

 


Yes, as TIScape said, Tony reached 200 mph ball speed. And in doing so, he lengthened his swing.

 

That doesn't necessarily mean everyone will gain distance by lengthening their swing. But in general, it does help when done properly. 

Is there any long drive competitor that doesn't get to parallel or past parallel? 

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2 minutes ago, TIScape said:

As I stated above he posted a video playing in Utah I believe, going all out or close to it, and was at 200 mph + ball speed. Don’t remember the exact #. It was a popular video. I’m sure someone else has seen it. 

 

I don't see where you said that but,,,,,,,,,,, I posted what I did as much for commentary on how far one needs (or doesn't) to back back to hit it as far as they can as anything else.

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3 minutes ago, TIScape said:

As I stated above he posted a video playing in Utah I believe, going all out or close to it, at was at 200 mph + ball speed. Don’t remember the exact #. It was a popular video. I’m sure someone else has seen it. 

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JB Holmes and finau have an amazing ability to generate speed from a not-parallel backswing...

 

They are all time imho at this profoundly rare skill

 

love both their driver swings btw...

 

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19 minutes ago, Christosterone said:

JB Holmes and finau have an amazing ability to generate speed from a not-parallel backswing...

 

They are all time imho at this profoundly rare skill

 

love both their driver swings btw...

 

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22 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

Man, if Tony could just have get a little more confidence on Sunday with his putter

 

Hed basically be DJ

 

Just want to see him play his best a few times, he’d really light it up. 

What's amazing about Tony is that all the success he's had, and we know it's not the best he can do.  When he figures out how to close, he's going to be on fire.  The dude is SOOOOO good!

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TF said in an interview that he can easily attain 190plus ball speeds but won't go there due to consistency and accuracy issues. Plus its an avenue for injury to swing that hard. 

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8 hours ago, nsxguy said:

What does all this prove ? :classic_blink:

 

That you don't need to get the driver (or any club PHIL) back to parallel to generate max speed ?

 

Take a look at Matt Wolff. Barely gets his driver to vertical,,,,,,, and hits it a mile.

 

I believe the physical evidence says our swings actually begin to decelerate as we approach the ball. Not so ?

 

Perhaps Finau's and Wolff's swings, being as short as they are, are still accelerating into the ball ? :classic_wacko:

 

Wonder how far John Daly would've hit it if he didn't get so far past parallel; almost(?) to vertical (a 2nd time) ?

 

 

Tony swings harder when he takes the club back further, he just can’t control it.  When he posted the video of 200+ ball speed he took it back further

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7 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

Man, if Tony could just have get a little more confidence on Sunday with his putter

 

Hed basically be DJ

 

Just want to see him play his best a few times, he’d really light it up. 

 

He had a full ride scholarship for basketball and turned it down.   Decided to go pro at 17.   Was he ready at 17?  

 

Nothing he can do about now. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, cardoustie said:

Longest on tour if he wanted to be

Longer than Champ if he was going all out?  If Champ wasn’t swinging the driver down at the ball I feel like he would be crazy long.  Not sure if it would be longer than Finau if he took a full back swing.

Rahm looks even shorter to me.  I’m not sure if he really is or not though.  
 

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Phil said at a tournament earlier this year that Tony and his brother were testing at Callaway back in the day - Tony hit 211 mph ball speed and broke a ball. He has another gear alright.

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1 hour ago, bladehunter said:

Not to gotcha.  But Tony  isn’t maxed out.  He’s actually hitting a 3/4 or 13/16ths driver most of the time on tour.  He has another gear that’s longer than Bryson.  Bryson is a wannabe big hitter.  As in he’s having to work 24/7 to try to be what Tony was born with.  

 

Tony was born with a proclivity toward athletics.  

He will be a good player but never a great player.

 

 

 

BD is a big hitter and a better player.  You can't be a chop and win the US OPEN. 

Like him or not, he designed a methodology and executed.  He's got one of these to show for it.

 

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12 hours ago, nsxguy said:

What does all this prove ? :classic_blink:

 

That you don't need to get the driver (or any club PHIL) back to parallel to generate max speed ?

 

Take a look at Matt Wolff. Barely gets his driver to vertical,,,,,,, and hits it a mile.

 

I believe the physical evidence says our swings actually begin to decelerate as we approach the ball. Not so ?

 

Perhaps Finau's and Wolff's swings, being as short as they are, are still accelerating into the ball ? :classic_wacko:

 

Wonder how far John Daly would've hit it if he didn't get so far past parallel; almost(?) to vertical (a 2nd time) ?

 

 

What it proves is that Tony could hit it a lot longer if he wanted to.  He prefers the shorter backswing for control.

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Scary thing is that he can make over 200 mph ball speed and has proven so in that one vid last year where he topped out at 201 back at home on his launch monitor.  He says that he shortens his back swing for tournament play so he can have more control.  He is one of the most talented players on tour for sure. 

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