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Except the disadvantage of not having many bounce and grind options. Is there any reason to not game these?

 

Anyone have experience from using them? They are gourgeos and there is a possibility to get them for a fair price here in Sweden. 

 

Bonus question: If I play 1” longer irons wouldn’t it make sence to have longer shafts in wedges too? For some reason I’ve never had this and never thought About it before.

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I think they will fit the bill for wedges. Everybody is a short game guru that needs available wedge grinds but still shoot in the 80s. I have some interest in them too, I didn’t get the chance to swi

Yeah.  I agree on that one.  Because of this pandemic, my wedge game has improved tremendously learning to use the bounce correctly doing hundreds of pitch, flop and pitch shots against a net in my ba

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I played them for about 15 rounds. Really good wedges, superb feel. They have a smaller footprint so you need to like the smaller look. They are releasing a tour grind in the higher lofted wedges and that is worth waiting for if you like to manipulate your shots around the greens. The thing with dormy (Swedish retailer) is that you probably can’t order them custom at that offer but double check that.

 

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11 minutes ago, MizunoMade said:

I played them for about 15 rounds. Really good wedges, superb feel. They have a smaller footprint so you need to like the smaller look. They are releasing a tour grind in the higher lofted wedges and that is worth waiting for if you like to manipulate your shots around the greens. The thing with dormy (Swedish retailer) is that you probably can’t order them custom at that offer but double check that.

 

Thanks for feedback The guy at the shop said i could.

9 minutes ago, No_Catchy_Nickname said:

I like my iron shafts to be on long side, so I order wedges longer than standard, but it may mean pretty high swing weights (like D5~6) if the OEM doesn't have any lighter heads.

No idea what swingweight is or how it would affect my game. But thanks 🙂

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I think used but near new vokeys are a much better idea. I had them and really disliked them personally. Just something a bit odd. High bounce but played low due to a narrower sole just really no refinement compared to Vokey, Cleveland, TM, callaway, ping etc. There’s a reason none of their pros really play them. 

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1 hour ago, TigerInTheWoods said:

I think used but near new vokeys are a much better idea. I had them and really disliked them personally. Just something a bit odd. High bounce but played low due to a narrower sole just really no refinement compared to Vokey, Cleveland, TM, callaway, ping etc. There’s a reason none of their pros really play them. 

 

Wedges are like Linus' blanket.  Pros are funny about them.  If they like a certain look or grind or feel, they will stay loyal to that manufacturer obviously.  I think at the pro tour level it comes down to service and who you have grinding the wedge.  If you have someone who is really talented at shaping and grinding a wedge, some pro will find you. And some companies pursue their players and work hard with them to get them into a full bag, others are content with less.  

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2 hours ago, TigerInTheWoods said:

I think used but near new vokeys are a much better idea. I had them and really disliked them personally. Just something a bit odd. High bounce but played low due to a narrower sole just really no refinement compared to Vokey, Cleveland, TM, callaway, ping etc. There’s a reason none of their pros really play them. 

 

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I think they will fit the bill for wedges. Everybody is a short game guru that needs available wedge grinds but still shoot in the 80s. I have some interest in them too, I didn’t get the chance to swing them at Carl’s.  I’d say hit them and try out your normal shot shapes and techniques and see how they do, I will when I do 

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4 hours ago, TigerInTheWoods said:

I think used but near new vokeys are a much better idea. I had them and really disliked them personally. Just something a bit odd. High bounce but played low due to a narrower sole just really no refinement compared to Vokey, Cleveland, TM, callaway, ping etc. There’s a reason none of their pros really play them. 

There’s a reason pros play their own grind outside the ones you have. There’s also a reason they release someone’s “grind” for you peons.  Lol fan boy.  You the guy who needs all these grind options but end up playing standard shots. 

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25 minutes ago, SylvesterLundgren said:

There’s a reason pros play their own grind outside the ones you have. There’s also a reason they release someone’s “grind” for you peons.  Lol fan boy.  You the guy who needs all these grind options but end up playing standard shots. 


You literally know nothing of my game. I’m not going to dignify that BS with a response other than, I have a very diverse and high end wedge game. 
 

As for the wedges, have you owned a full set of them? Because I have and I really disliked them. They also wore incredibly fast. For the same money you can get better and I truly believe that. 

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5 minutes ago, TigerInTheWoods said:


You literally know nothing of my game. I’m not going to dignify that BS with a response other than, I have a very diverse and high end wedge game. 
 

As for the wedges, have you owned a full set of them? Because I have and I really disliked them. They also wore incredibly fast. For the same money you can get better and I truly believe that. 

We’re talking about the 2021 line up? The ones that come stock with the 120 s300?? I can agree that since they’re listed as “forged” they will probably wear down compared to the softer cast clubs no debate there.  
I don’t need to know your game to see your opinion/approach. I meant it in satire as well but I can see how it came off heavy handed. 
I’ll be honest my response is one based off of skill because if technique is versatile and abundant then you could make most wedges work. I haven’t had the chance to swing the Wilson’s but I will give them a fair look regardless of the grind/bounce available 

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22 minutes ago, SylvesterLundgren said:

I’ll be honest my response is one based off of skill because if technique is versatile and abundant then you could make most wedges work. I haven’t had the chance to swing the Wilson’s but I will give them a fair look regardless of the grind/bounce available 

 

Yeah.  I agree on that one.  Because of this pandemic, my wedge game has improved tremendously learning to use the bounce correctly doing hundreds of pitch, flop and pitch shots against a net in my basement which transitioned very very well in real world conditions.  I also tend to practice off of crappy and bare lies when I'm at a chipping green which gives me very little room for error.  I didn't use a $200+ Vokey wedge to practice with but an old SW from a '97 Callaway Bertha Gold set.  I'm not going to judge anyone's wedge opinions but can only speak for myself but I can pretty much get around the course now with any wedge.  I can even get away with only using a PW or even a 9 iron if needed.

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Yeah.  I agree on that one.  Because of this pandemic, my wedge game has improved tremendously learning to use the bounce correctly doing hundreds of pitch, flop and pitch shots against a net in my basement and translated very very well in real world conditions.  I didn't use a $200+ Vokey wedge to practice with but an old SW from a '97 Callaway Bertha Gold set.  I'm not going to judge anyone's wedge opinions but can only speak for myself but I can pretty get around the course now with any wedge.  I can even get away with using a PW if needed.

Most definitely, I’ve mentioned to my teammates about using a pw even with a slight open face for a quick nipper he seems surprised over that shot idea. Lol he prefers to close down a 60 and play that style of shot.

Everybody is different and has a different “feel” towards their short games. I don’t advocate to change your swing but I do with style of technical work and training those approach thoughts leading into playing a shot.  Those people who are unfamiliar seem to think I am trying to coach a swing out of them. Lol 

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Guys, I'm not saying I couldn't play them I'm saying I didn't prefer them? My buddy who plays on tour and I stood on the range and went back and forth hitting a bunch of different shots with my old gamers, his gamers, and the Wilson with pro v1s and they just flat out weren't as good for our games. He's a +4 and I'm a +1 (at the time - gone up a bit since). I just thought they were a bit clunky and didn't like how they went through the ground. It's an equipment forum and we are talking about a piece of equipment. I'm not a Vokey fanboy. I have a couple of really nice forged Vokey JDM and they didn't wear nearly as bad for the record, but also game MG2 TW grind because they work best for my game. 

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3 minutes ago, TigerInTheWoods said:

Guys, I'm not saying I couldn't play them I'm saying I didn't prefer them? My buddy who plays on tour and I stood on the range and went back and forth hitting a bunch of different shots with my old gamers, his gamers, and the Wilson with pro v1s and they just flat out weren't as good for our games. He's a +4 and I'm a +1 (at the time - gone up a bit since). I just thought they were a bit clunky and didn't like how they went through the ground. It's an equipment forum and we are talking about a piece of equipment. I'm not a Vokey fanboy. I have a couple of really nice forged Vokey JDM and they didn't wear nearly as bad for the record, but also game MG2 TW grind because they work best for my game. 

Lol it was in jest. You’re not a fanboy ! I get that they’re others that can share better traits for the short game. Should have lead with this statement instead of your first one. It’s all love 🙏🏻 Lol 

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Liking how a wedge looks is check 1, which you do.  Limited grinds/bounces is only a negative if the ones they have don't agree with you.  Options are great, but if you don't need them then you don't need them.  I always look at sole width. 

 

Playing 1" longer is about 6 SW points.  I'll assume the STAFF model wedges start at about D4 -- so, they'll end up really heavy.  For you, how about 1/2" longer than standard.  Then, I like the idea of having a minimum length on your wedges; in other words, after the PW or gap stop stepping them down.  

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13 minutes ago, shot-savior said:

Liking how a wedge looks is check 1, which you do.  Limited grinds/bounces is only a negative if the ones they have don't agree with you.  Options are great, but if you don't need them then you don't need them.  I always look at sole width. 

 

Playing 1" longer is about 6 SW points.  I'll assume the STAFF model wedges start at about D4 -- so, they'll end up really heavy.  For you, how about 1/2" longer than standard.  Then, I like the idea of having a minimum length on your wedges; in other words, after the PW or gap stop stepping them down.  

Thanks for the explanation! Hopefully helps with gapping aswell since i never really managed to fix it between PW and gap. 50 little or no gap and 52 abit too much. Saves me the time learing how to 3/4 my PW 🤪

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11 hours ago, MizunoMade said:

I played them for about 15 rounds. Really good wedges, superb feel. They have a smaller footprint so you need to like the smaller look. They are releasing a tour grind in the higher lofted wedges and that is worth waiting for if you like to manipulate your shots around the greens. The thing with dormy (Swedish retailer) is that you probably can’t order them custom at that offer but double check that.

 

I ordered mine from Dormy with custom shafts and got the 3 for 2 deal. 

 

Great wedges.

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