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For months now I have been encountering moderate and very manageable left hip pain¬† that is kind of shallow - just to the rear of where the iliotibial band attached in the hip area - yes, there is a reason that I know that¬†ūüėĬ†. It was a minor irritant until Friday when I could not play because of the pain - not even in a cart (I usually walk/carry).¬†

 

The pain kind of settled 'back to normal' by Saturday. I was doing some grilling on Saturday and I keep a short iron by the grill where I do practice swings while I cook. I did 3 slow motion practice swings (PW) and that REALLY kicked off the pain (which had been unnoticeable 30 seconds earlier). My sense was the my 'hip slide' was the trigger. 

 

My hip slide is not unusual but it is there. My hip slide into impact pretty much matches Dr. Ralph Mann's "Model Swing"  

 

But I have noticed that some excellent golfers have very little hip slide.  In experimenting with such a swing, it is MUCH more comfortable (WRT my hip pain). 

 

I have a orthopedic appointment coming in a few weeks (waiting on my second Covid shot and his vacation schedule) when I will know more. So this is speculative.  But if a partial answer is to mostly avoid any forward hip slide coming down, what GOLF SWING  issues might this present? In just looking at a handful of Youtube Pro golf swings, most do the slide. But some (like Finau) do not. 

 

Thanks for assisting in my speculative and uninformed treatment plan¬†¬†ūüėĄ

 

dave

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13 minutes ago, milesgiles said:

imo its not the hips slide, its the hip slide leaving your upper torso behind. So if you slide, make sure the torso slides with it?

 

I probably don't understand what you are saying here. But if you put your hips in some place, and leave your head still in another place, I don't see any choices that you have WRT your torso. 

 

Am I missing something? 

 

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Both ribcage and hip centers move slightly off the ball in the backswing before both moving slightly forward of where they started by top of backswing  - moving the hips and keeping the ribcage back is not what most elite swings do - upper body hang back is not what you want - with shorter clubs this stacked relationship stays pretty much the same and as the club lengthen secondary tilt is added especially with the driver.       Have no idea if hanging back while moving hips laterally will lead to hip pain - a good doctor doesn't need to play golf to understand if a particular motion could be the cause - might need to see a specialist versus a general practitioner. 

 

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41 minutes ago, DaveLeeNC said:

I guess I was not clear. My question is a GOLF SWING question WRT what undesirable outcomes (GOLF BALL outcomes) might result from only turn and mostly no forward hip slide through impact.  I did edit the original post. My question stands whether or not this change is medically helpful. 

 

dave

I guess if you want a good impact position (pivot around the lead hip / heel-knee-hip-shoulder aligned), pressure forward and no lateral movement in your swing completely - you’d have to go stack and tilt... with its known disadvantages

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Good topic OP.  For the sake of discussion the golf swing is a dynamic motion. If we were designed with one leg then the axis for the swing would be the one leg. 

 

However we are designed with  two legs and two hip joints, trying to stay centered on an invisible axis is a recipe for coming over the top and a big power and control killer.

 

The dynamic axis in the swing should be the right leg and hip in the backswing and the left leg and hip in the downswing to apply max energy to the ball. 

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Shifting the left hip out of the way, backwards, but not forward is how I understand it. I was trying this yesterday, and it worked just fine for me. Glad I have been reading about this on the forum!! Thank you.

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