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1 hour ago, solismr said:

@ericftI think what it is is that All-fit changed their standard screw that comes with the adapter to basically be the Ping #1 screw. I placed to separate order for adapters about 3 weeks apart and the second order all-fit screws are exactly the same as my ping#1 screw from my first order. 
 

 

 

That makes sense, I switched to the Ping screw for my Epic Max LS as well, it has much better deeper threading than the normal screw. My other head is a Cobra Pars And Stripes so that has a long screw naturally anyway.

 

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On 4/30/2021 at 9:25 AM, Therty said:

Can someone who has all of the screws take a photo and measure the lengths? It would be much easier to just order the right size screws from mcmaster, and then you dont have to pay $25 shipping

 

Top screw is the old "regular" All-Fit screw

2nd is the Ping/PXG screw. This, apparently, is now the "regular" screw

Bottom screw is the longer Cobra screw

 

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Taylormade Sim Max, Fujikura Ventus Velocore Black 6-S, Top Golf All-Fit Universal adapter

Callaway Epic Max LS, Hzrdus Smoke Black RDX 60 stiff, Top Golf All-Fit Universal adapter
Fairways: Honma 737 13* 3 wood, Vizard A 50S shaft, Taylormade M4 HL 16.5* 4 wood, Vizard Z 60S shaft
Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid

Irons:      Taylormade P790 DGold 105 S300 4-PW

               Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-PW KBS TGI 95/100 shafts
Wedges: Cleveland CBX2 48*, Cleveland FullFace 56* both with Catalyst 100 shafts
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1 hour ago, SwingBlues said:

 

Top screw is the old "regular" All-Fit screw

2nd is the Ping/PXG screw. This, apparently, is now the "regular" screw

Bottom screw is the longer Cobra screw

 

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Awesome!

 

so that looks like the OG screw is M4x15mm, the new screw is M4x18mm-ish, and the long screw is M4x25mm?

 

thanks!!

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Ok, took more photos

 

Screw #1 Length is 15.5mm but thread to 15mm

Screw #2 17.5 mm and thread to 16.5 mm

Screw #3 26mm and thread to 24.5 mm

 

See photos below

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Callaway Epic Max LS, Hzrdus Smoke Black RDX 60 stiff, Top Golf All-Fit Universal adapter
Fairways: Honma 737 13* 3 wood, Vizard A 50S shaft, Taylormade M4 HL 16.5* 4 wood, Vizard Z 60S shaft
Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid

Irons:      Taylormade P790 DGold 105 S300 4-PW

               Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-PW KBS TGI 95/100 shafts
Wedges: Cleveland CBX2 48*, Cleveland FullFace 56* both with Catalyst 100 shafts
Directed Force Reno "2.05 Presse IV tweaked" Putter with BGT Stability shaft
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Do these adapters have any sort or plastic/rubber ferrule or are they 100% metal? 

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On 5/2/2021 at 9:39 PM, Therty said:

I can definitely source them. If @SwingBlues can confirm the lengths of the threads not including the head of the screws are correct. The only hard part will be getting the Torx head spec correct.

Did anything or anybody find a place to order some screws?  I want to switch out all my shafts and then all my drivers to the All-Fit.  Issue is all the Callaway, Titleist, Ping and PXG heads I've got.  My TM are fine and luckily only have a couple Cobra heads but I’ve got a Cally and Titleist heads that I need to swap out.  Don’t want to try to swap out screws and rubber washers at the range.   Stinks as I’ve got a couple tour issued heads I’d love to test but can’t as I don’t have enough of the screws.

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TM Sim2 Rocket- AutoFlex SF505X
PXG Gen4 5 wood- Ventus Blue 7X or depending on course and conditions 
4i Epic Forged iron Ventus Black 9TX
4i PXG Gen2 Utility Iron MMT 105TX
5-PW PXG Gen3 MMT 105TX (5 and 6 Players, 7-PW MMT 105TX)
Bettinardi HLX 3.0. 50*, 55* 
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9 hours ago, My2Dogs said:

Did anything or anybody find a place to order some screws?  I want to switch out all my shafts and then all my drivers to the All-Fit.  Issue is all the Callaway, Titleist, Ping and PXG heads I've got.  My TM are fine and luckily only have a couple Cobra heads but I’ve got a Cally and Titleist heads that I need to swap out.  Don’t want to try to swap out screws and rubber washers at the range.   Stinks as I’ve got a couple tour issued heads I’d love to test but can’t as I don’t have enough of the screws.

 

@Therty any updates on the McMaster screws now that you have the screw lengths?

 

Also, Top Golf does sell the extra PXG/Ping screws for like 4 for $1

 

If anyone is going to place an order, may be a good idea to get extra screws as well as extra ferrules with your order. (ferrules are allegedly the same ones as Ping ferrules)

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Sorry guys I figured this out and never circled back. The 0.5mm of unthreaded post is for blind centering the screw in the adaptor while it’s in the head to prevent cross threading. Without it use the whole number length. I’m still looking for centering bolts, but see attached.

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They have some other lengths with a rounded head which would work.

 

Sort of looks like the choice is order 50 or pay $25 for shipping from All-fit haha

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11 hours ago, SwingBlues said:

 

@Therty any updates on the McMaster screws now that you have the screw lengths?

 

Also, Top Golf does sell the extra PXG/Ping screws for like 4 for $1

 

If anyone is going to place an order, may be a good idea to get extra screws as well as extra ferrules with your order. (ferrules are allegedly the same ones as Ping ferrules)

If anyone is going to place an order please let me know.  I’d like to get a bunch of those.

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PXG Gen4 5 wood- Ventus Blue 7X or depending on course and conditions 
4i Epic Forged iron Ventus Black 9TX
4i PXG Gen2 Utility Iron MMT 105TX
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To me, I don't thing the partial threaded screw matters. I always go slow to make sure the thread engages properly. I've still found partial threaded adaptor screws to want to cross-thread sometimes. Just have to be careful. 

 

I found these screws on McMaster-Carr. They seem like the right fit, but fully threaded. Which, to me, is fine. They have a 25mm length for Ping/PXG. Has anyone verified the head diameter of the screw? If not, I can do it when I'm home this evening.

 

 

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3 Wood: Callaway Epic Flash 15*, NS Setting, Accra TZ6 65 M4 @ 43"

Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash 4h 21* @ 20*, N-1 Setting, Nippon Modus3 Tour 105 S @ 38.75"

Irons: Srixon ZX5 5,6 irons; ZX7 7-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 S; 36.5" 7 iron length

Wedges: Mizuno T20 50.07, 54.12, 58.08; Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron 2014 Select Fastback @ 32.5"; Superstroke Flatso 3.0

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1 minute ago, kjbuckeye said:

To me, I don't thing the partial threaded screw matters. I always go slow to make sure the thread engages properly. I've still found partial threaded adaptor screws to want to cross-thread sometimes. Just have to be careful. 

 

I found these screws on McMaster-Carr. They seem like the right fit, but fully threaded. Which, to me, is fine. They have a 25mm length for Ping/PXG. Has anyone verified the head diameter of the screw? If not, I can do it when I'm home this evening.

 

 

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I may have made a mistake. Normal adaptor screws are T25 torx bit, right? If so, these won't work.

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3 Wood: Callaway Epic Flash 15*, NS Setting, Accra TZ6 65 M4 @ 43"

Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash 4h 21* @ 20*, N-1 Setting, Nippon Modus3 Tour 105 S @ 38.75"

Irons: Srixon ZX5 5,6 irons; ZX7 7-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 S; 36.5" 7 iron length

Wedges: Mizuno T20 50.07, 54.12, 58.08; Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: Scotty Cameron 2014 Select Fastback @ 32.5"; Superstroke Flatso 3.0

Grips: Golf Pride Tour Velvet +4 STD

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13 hours ago, kjbuckeye said:

I may have made a mistake. Normal adaptor screws are T25 torx bit, right? If so, these won't work.

T20 torx, check my post above. They have them at McMaster, 16mm (https://www.mcmaster.com/90362A122/) and 25mm (https://www.mcmaster.com/90362A168/), no problem. Metric dog point screws (the 0.5mm "unthreaded" end) are basically impossible to find in the US (much easier in Europe or from China), and I havent been taking my thrice annual trips to france because of covid - so mcmaster is the best bet unless someone has a local fastener shop with a good order department (or are exceptionally lucky).

 

EDIT: It looks like there are some conflicting reports out there about T20 vs T25. I can say with 100% certainty that the stock All-fit screw is T20 and NOT T25, so the mcmaster screws should work. 

 

 

 

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UPDATE: These are SOLID, SOLID adapters. The insertion depth is so much better than the Club Conex Uni-Fit adapters. Confidence.

 

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I had one adapter that seem to loosen but I think that's because I had a bad prep with some acetone remaining inside so the epoxy did not set correctly internally (eventhough the mix was solid. Always keep your mix around as proof). It pulled easily, the ferrule was fine and the re-epoxied shaft was fine.

 

Using it predominantly in my Callaway Epic Max LS. I do not miss the flat/draw settings at all. The only thing with the Callaway adapter vs All-Fit is the latter is lighter by 1 gm approximately so I had to add some lead tape under the Jailbreak. It's good in some sense as it's a dirty version of a Sub-Zero but hey.

 

Also its a lot of fun to play all my shafts in my 2 Callaway and Cobra heads. More heads are coming.

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Fairways: Honma 737 13* 3 wood, Vizard A 50S shaft, Taylormade M4 HL 16.5* 4 wood, Vizard Z 60S shaft
Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid

Irons:      Taylormade P790 DGold 105 S300 4-PW

               Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-PW KBS TGI 95/100 shafts
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1 hour ago, dlow206 said:

Looks like it. It seems that Top Golf manufacturers these and most likely license the sale of these through other distributors. 

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3 Wood: Callaway Epic Flash 15*, NS Setting, Accra TZ6 65 M4 @ 43"

Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash 4h 21* @ 20*, N-1 Setting, Nippon Modus3 Tour 105 S @ 38.75"

Irons: Srixon ZX5 5,6 irons; ZX7 7-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 S; 36.5" 7 iron length

Wedges: Mizuno T20 50.07, 54.12, 58.08; Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

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Billy Bobs did say they are going to be bringing in a "new" Universal adapter system and this seems to be it. Did not like their original CMX because of the sheer weight.

 

I just wonder if they had Top Golf laser different names on the sleeves & adapters but they do look like All-Fit.

 

The question now is do you buy BB or still go with Top Golf. May be the shipping cost may be the determining factor.

 

I think for me, I may stick with Top Golf, if I buy in "bulk" the price difference will offset the shipping. JMHO

 

05/31/21 UPDATE: Just confirmed with a Top Golf rep, the Billy Bob's CMX All-Fit is the same but with different laser etching. So those planning to buy from BB, you are GOOD to have an All-Fit system.

 

Lots of choices: allfit website, BBs etc. Choose wisely... 😁

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Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid

Irons:      Taylormade P790 DGold 105 S300 4-PW

               Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-PW KBS TGI 95/100 shafts
Wedges: Cleveland CBX2 48*, Cleveland FullFace 56* both with Catalyst 100 shafts
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Will these adapters play the same length (and same trimming) as stock adapters? Particularly Callaway and Taylormade? Is it in any way less adjustable than the Callaway/TM adapters or any other cons to be aware of before ordering? Interested in both driver and hybrid model.

 

Also, are the ones sold at Billy Bobs the same "Gen 3" ones on All-Fits site or an older generation?

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5 hours ago, RobDMB said:

Will these adapters play the same length (and same trimming) as stock adapters? Particularly Callaway and Taylormade? Is it in any way less adjustable than the Callaway/TM adapters or any other cons to be aware of before ordering? Interested in both driver and hybrid model.

 

Also, are the ones sold at Billy Bobs the same "Gen 3" ones on All-Fits site or an older generation?

 

I have 2 Callaway drivers that I am using All-Fit. Here are the facts: You lose the Draw and Standard bias you had with the OEM Callaway. If you think about it the OEM has 2 rings while the All-Fit has only a single collar. The loft is 0.75 increments from -1.5 to + 1.5. But hey, you are buying the ability to use your shaft in ANY MAJOR OEM head but the price you pay is the loss of the Standard/Draw bias collar. Personally, I do not miss and I use to have it in the "D" setting.

 

The All-Fit insertion is deep. See my picture above I posted here. Also check out my 2nd post on this thread if you want to compare the insertion depth of the All-Fit versus OEM - that will give you a better idea.

 

After talking with a Top Golf sales associate, I can confirm the Billy Bob's CMX are the SAME All-Fit. Billy Bob is an old customer of Top Golf so BB version of the collar has a slightly different laser etching than the Top Golf version. No big deal, its the exact same collar.

 

I have had the All-Fit adapter system many months now. In fact I just placed my 3rd order with Top Golf. Their product is STELLAR and RELIABLE.

 

Oh, a big THANK YOU to Club Conex for shunning us Uni-Fit adopters and no longer selling us any of your Uni-Fit adapters/collars. Without you forcing us out, we would NEVER have jumped onto the Top Golf All-Fit system. I will never recommend anyone to use your Uni-Fit system, or use any Club Conex products after what you did.

 

Top Golf & All-Fit all the way, baby!

 

 

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Callaway Epic Max LS, Hzrdus Smoke Black RDX 60 stiff, Top Golf All-Fit Universal adapter
Fairways: Honma 737 13* 3 wood, Vizard A 50S shaft, Taylormade M4 HL 16.5* 4 wood, Vizard Z 60S shaft
Hybrid:   Cobra Speedzone 3 hybrid

Irons:      Taylormade P790 DGold 105 S300 4-PW

               Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-PW KBS TGI 95/100 shafts
Wedges: Cleveland CBX2 48*, Cleveland FullFace 56* both with Catalyst 100 shafts
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8 hours ago, SwingBlues said:

 

I have 2 Callaway drivers that I am using All-Fit. Here are the facts: You lose the Draw and Standard bias you had with the OEM Callaway. If you think about it the OEM has 2 rings while the All-Fit has only a single collar. The loft is 0.75 increments from -1.5 to + 1.5. But hey, you are buying the ability to use your shaft in ANY MAJOR OEM head but the price you pay is the loss of the Standard/Draw bias collar. Personally, I do not miss and I use to have it in the "D" setting.

 

The All-Fit insertion is deep. See my picture above I posted here. Also check out my 2nd post on this thread if you want to compare the insertion depth of the All-Fit versus OEM - that will give you a better idea.

 

After talking with a Top Golf sales associate, I can confirm the Billy Bob's CMX are the SAME All-Fit. Billy Bob is an old customer of Top Golf so BB version of the collar has a slightly different laser etching than the Top Golf version. No big deal, its the exact same collar.

 

I have had the All-Fit adapter system many months now. In fact I just placed my 3rd order with Top Golf. Their product is STELLAR and RELIABLE.

 

Oh, a big THANK YOU to Club Conex for shunning us Uni-Fit adopters and no longer selling us any of your Uni-Fit adapters/collars. Without you forcing us out, we would NEVER have jumped onto the Top Golf All-Fit system. I will never recommend anyone to use your Uni-Fit system, or use any Club Conex products after what you did.

 

Top Golf & All-Fit all the way, baby!

 

 

I totally agree with the club conex part. It was a blessing in disguise. @swingblues when you say you order from topgolf do you mean the allfit place in China that ships fedex or is there a top golf place in the US you can order from other than billy bobs?

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