Driver head with adjustments for lowering trajectory

[golfizfunright]

I'm 6'4 and I have a steep swing which produces a high driver under normal situations. I'm looking for a head that has adjustability (front and back) to help control trajectory (with the help of the right shaft of course). I'm a solid 6GHIN and a pretty consistent ball striker but the driver is my next area to improve. I currently play a 9 degree Titleist TSi2 which is fantastic however still higher than desired.

 

Any suggestions?

[tbone18]

16 minutes ago, golfizfunright said:

I'm 6'4 and I have a steep swing which produces a high driver under normal situations. I'm looking for a head that has adjustability (front and back) to help control trajectory (with the help of the right shaft of course). I'm a solid 6GHIN and a pretty consistent ball striker but the driver is my next area to improve. I currently play a 9 degree Titleist TSi2 which is fantastic however still higher than desired.

 

Any suggestions?

Any Callaway Sub Zero model.  Cobra RAD Speed and Speed Zone are just a few.

[LUXOR54]

For a cheaper experiment than going new you could look for a 2016-17 M1 driver, you'll have the hosel adjustments as well as the two tracks in which you can drastically move the weights, plus you can completely change them out for different weights if you wanted. Shafts with TM adapters are pretty plentiful on the second hand market.

[Jc0]

TS3s can be found for not to bad if you like what you currently have.

[golfizfunright]

The Callaway's are a no go for me as their face is too numb for me to feel where I'm making impact. It's a personal preference thing.

[grochol17]

If I recall correctly, the best way to make a change in the launch angle and spin is by changing loft, whereas moving around weights is more about tweaking the launch conditions.  So I think your first move should be to go down in loft and/or find a driver head that is lower launching before worrying about movable weights.  Titleist lists the TSi2 as "high" launch while the TSi3 and TSi4 about listed as "mid." 

[golfizfunright]

Grochol17 - I'm using a 9 degree driver now.

[hagimihale]

If you like Titleist, switch to the TS3 or TSi3.  The CG of the "2" model (TS2, TSi2) is more low and rearward than the 3, hence it tends to launch higher, assuming the same combination of loft and shaft.  

 

So in theory, moving to a TS3 in 9* should lower launch.  Then you can adjust the surefit hosel to lower it another 0.75*.  This should help with your launch.

[grochol17]

The TSi 2, 3, and 4 all come in 8* loft and can then be adjusted down another 0.75* to play at 7.25*.  I think that is about as low as you can go in current drivers without getting a head made specifically for people doing long drive competitions.  The TM M5 comes in 9* adjustable down to 7* and has the two sliding weights.  But keep in mind that when you move both weights forward to bring down the launch and spin, you're also lowering the MOI, making it harder to control.

[PEI_Golfer]

Not all head designs are created equal.  So while you do currently have a 9* head, it isn't a lower launching design with the CG pulled back.  Finding a TS3 in an 8.5* loft would surely bring it down, and then you can always open the face or a flatter setting unless that give you additional issues.

[golfizfunright]

Seems like the Cobra Radspeed with its low spin (low center of gravity) and adjustability might be a solution..never owned one. I do like their stock shaft offerings. 

Edited March 8, 2021 by golfizfunright

[Stuart_G]

14 hours ago, PEI_Golfer said:

Not all head designs are created equal.

 

On top of that, not all heads are manufactured equally.  Just because the label (or the design) says 9* doesn't mean it really is 9*.   +/- 1.5* is not uncommon for most OEM's and models.

 

18 hours ago, golfizfunright said:

I'm 6'4 and I have a steep swing which produces a high driver under normal situations. I'm looking for a head that has adjustability (front and back) to help control trajectory (with the help of the right shaft of course). I'm a solid 6GHIN and a pretty consistent ball striker but the driver is my next area to improve. I currently play a 9 degree Titleist TSi2 which is fantastic however still higher than desired.

 

Any suggestions?

 

First thing to do is the use foot powder spray to check the face impact position.  Too high a launch can be a result of impact too high on the face.   if that's the case, the simple thing to do would be to tee the ball down lower.   I might suggest trying that anyways even if impact is good.   A high tee can potentially promote delivery of a high dynamic loft

Edited March 8, 2021 by Stuart_G

[golfizfunright]

We've already checked my impact position which is near the bottom of the face.

[Stuart_G]

44 minutes ago, golfizfunright said:

We've already checked my impact position which is near the bottom of the face.

 

Do you know your numbers?  

[golfizfunright]

I have full Trackman specs.

[Valtiel]

To add to what Stewart said, the combination of steep, low on the face, and high trajectory means that you likely have the classic combination of over the top plus an open club face which equals high spin and high trajectory. Either that or you are trying to hit excessively up on the ball and catching it low. Cranking down driver loft will be the only direct equipment solution to either issue. 

[phizzy30]

22 hours ago, grochol17 said:

If I recall correctly, the best way to make a change in the launch angle and spin is by changing loft, whereas moving around weights is more about tweaking the launch conditions.  So I think your first move should be to go down in loft and/or find a driver head that is lower launching before worrying about movable weights.  Titleist lists the TSi2 as "high" launch while the TSi3 and TSi4 about listed as "mid." 

Yep.  Changing lofts by going lower for driver is the most dramatic way to lower launch.  Shaft can only do so much for that.  I play a 8 degree head now that puts me right at 11-12 degrees of launch.  It was 14-15 degrees with a previous SIM head.  

[Stuart_G]

10 hours ago, Valtiel said:

To add to what Stewart said, the combination of steep, low on the face, and high trajectory means that you likely have the classic combination of over the top plus an open club face which equals high spin and high trajectory. Either that or you are trying to hit excessively up on the ball and catching it low. Cranking down driver loft will be the only direct equipment solution to either issue. 

 

I'm not convinced the trajectory is from a high launch angle - but rather from the high spin of the low face contact.   But not much more we can do other than guess if he's not willing to share the numbers.

Edited March 9, 2021 by Stuart_G

[golfizfunright]

Ordered the Titleist TSi4 (low spin) 9 degree driver with a Tensei Raw White shaft. The combo of the forward CG in the club head and the shaft with low launch and low spin should make this a bullet launcher!! We'll see, delivery expected in a couple of weeks.