Tour is ever inching towards MLB circa '98

[animalgolfs]

I'm stating this as an opinion: 

 

The Tour is chasing distance ala MLB '98 and using Bryson as the poster boy.....and we all know how it ended with MLB 

 

 

I absolutely love Bryson- but I'm seeing gym signs that I'm not comfortable with. 

 

This isn't going to end well IMO 

 

 

[Soloman1]

Naw... no tour (or amateur) players have historically tried to drive the ball as far as possible.

[lefty1978]

Yeah, but in golf you still have to have a plus short game to compete. You can drive it 400 yards, but if you are terrible with the wedge and putter you won't last. Golf isn't one dimensional.

[toddyc]

22 minutes ago, animalgolfs said:

I'm stating this as an opinion: 

 

The Tour is chasing distance ala MLB '98 and using Bryson as the poster boy.....and we all know how it ended with MLB 

 

 

I absolutely love Bryson- but I'm seeing gym signs that I'm not comfortable with. 

 

This isn't going to end well IMO 

 

 

Chasing distance wasn’t the problem with mlb 98, and the long ball is as sought after as ever now in 2021. It was the PEDs that ruined it

 

Do you honestly think Bryson is juicing 

[pollo]

Not really sure what you're hinting at? Steroids? Or just distance in general? If it's steroids anyone who even half dedicates themselves to working out (especially weight training) and proper nutrition can add muscle mass and bodyweight naturally, let alone at the dedication levels BAD has. The fact many of the modern PGA players treat the sport for what it is, a sport, and prioritizes fitness along with the golf game doesn't automatically equate to PED's playing a role. This isn't the PGA of yesteryear and too often it seems like TV announcers and many members here still think golfers should have a healthy beer gut and a couple chins otherwise something suspicious is going on. Nothing about BAD, Rory, Brooks, old Tiger, or anyone else even hints at anything other than having a good training regimen and added speed and distance is just a natural result of that.

[animalgolfs]

29 minutes ago, pollo said:

Not really sure what you're hinting at? Steroids? Or just distance in general? If it's steroids anyone who even half dedicates themselves to working out (especially weight training) and proper nutrition can add muscle mass and bodyweight naturally, let alone at the dedication levels BAD has. The fact many of the modern PGA players treat the sport for what it is, a sport, and prioritizes fitness along with the golf game doesn't automatically equate to PED's playing a role. This isn't the PGA of yesteryear and too often it seems like TV announcers and many members here still think golfers should have a healthy beer gut and a couple chins otherwise something suspicious is going on. Nothing about BAD, Rory, Brooks, old Tiger, or anyone else even hints at anything other than having a good training regimen and added speed and distance is just a natural result of that.

Tiger went south pretty quick

 

Brooks has knee problems - both him & Bryson are perfect examples for my scenario 

 

I understand 25yrs old being prime athletics peak as well 

Edited March 8, 2021 by animalgolfs

[milesgiles]

Ive already seen a member here make the same accusation of Bryson and I advised him to withdraw it.. which he didnt.

 

Its absolute rubbish on every level, but that wont stop this being a 20 page thread 

[golfortennis]

34 minutes ago, pollo said:

Not really sure what you're hinting at? Steroids? Or just distance in general? If it's steroids anyone who even half dedicates themselves to working out (especially weight training) and proper nutrition can add muscle mass and bodyweight naturally, let alone at the dedication levels BAD has. The fact many of the modern PGA players treat the sport for what it is, a sport, and prioritizes fitness along with the golf game doesn't automatically equate to PED's playing a role. This isn't the PGA of yesteryear and too often it seems like TV announcers and many members here still think golfers should have a healthy beer gut and a couple chins otherwise something suspicious is going on. Nothing about BAD, Rory, Brooks, old Tiger, or anyone else even hints at anything other than having a good training regimen and added speed and distance is just a natural result of that.

 

His PRP doc who was smuggling steroids doesn't even hint that that?

[pollo]

3 minutes ago, animalgolfs said:

Tiger went south pretty quick

 

Brooks has knee problems - both him & Bryson are perfect examples for my scenario 

 

I understand 25yrs old being prime athletics peak as well 

What even is your scenario? Your first post was vague and cryptic. Working out doesn't mean injury proof, it means more speed and power when you are healthy which explains the added distance.

[soregongolfer]

MLB is chasing distance now.  Homeruns are up.  Base hits are down.  Strikeouts are way up.  The game has changed and not for the better.  The NBA is changing as well.  Teams chuck up threes like never before.  

[TiScape]

Everything evolves. It’s the cycle of life. 

[Cwebb]

5 minutes ago, soregongolfer said:

MLB is chasing distance now.  Homeruns are up.  Base hits are down.  Strikeouts are way up.  The game has changed and not for the better.  The NBA is changing as well.  Teams chuck up threes like never before.  

Thankfully, they stayed with wood bats.  Would have been interesting to see golf without spring face titanium.  They could have cut it off in '97 or '98 after Woods won the Masters with his Cobra steel driver

[dlygrisse]

My guess is he is doing all sorts of things to enhance his performance, including supplements.  With all the attention he is getting I would be highly surprised if he was taking anything on the banned substance list.  I'm not sure what is on the list the PGA tour uses, but Bryson is working his butt off, and if anything he is taking is allowing his body to recover faster it seems to be working.  

 

I just don't see PGA tour players being called before a special committee in congress and being subpoenaed to testify.   It will certainly inspire more people to go this route, golfers will end up training more like baseball players than traditional golfers, but ya still gotta have a short game.  

[PostandGhost]

The height of baseball's popularity was the late 90's and early 2000's.  Hopefully that means golf is entering a similar popularity phase.  

[swagee]

5 hours ago, animalgolfs said:

I'm stating this as an opinion: 

 

The Tour is chasing distance ala MLB '98 and using Bryson as the poster boy.....and we all know how it ended with MLB 

 

 

I absolutely love Bryson- but I'm seeing gym signs that I'm not comfortable with. 

 

This isn't going to end well IMO 

 

 

I don’t think any players would say no to chasing distance. Everyone wants to hit it a lil further. Tiger went to the gym and hit it over 300 20 years ago. Rory has been hitting the gym and carried the ball for miles way before Bryson did. 
Bryson just took a different and more scientific approach to distance, which is a hybrid of a long drive contestant and a pro golfer. I don't see anything wrong with chasing distance the way Bryson does it. All credits to him if he can send it straight to the moon.

Edited March 9, 2021 by swagee

[anth]

We all know it’s the Class Acts Tour.  No one uses PEDs and no one uses illegal equipment...

 

Except that time that Xander’s driver was deemed over the limit.

 

It’s amazing what you discover when you actually test for it.  How often are the Tour testing for PEDs?

[Arn]

The sad part will be the short careers. All the big hitters now are getting hurt and will not play as long, we won’t have as many stars making it to the champions tour. Players will flame out from injuries way more often. There was something so classy about the way golfers aged, won’t be that way any more.

[animalgolfs]

1 hour ago, pollo said:

What even is your scenario? Your first post was vague and cryptic. Working out doesn't mean injury proof, it means more speed and power when you are healthy which explains the added distance.

The Tour has gone full distance propaganda ala MLB '98.....and they knew what those guys were doing 

 

Bryson & Brooks are the poster boys now and the Tour knows as well. 

 

Did I miss something? 

 

 

[TiScape]

If this turns into a Bryson or anyone else on PEDs thread I’d recommend running and hiding. It’s happened a few times and it NEVER ends well! 

[Arn]

So who wants 20 more yards?

 

 

[TiScape]

8 minutes ago, Arn said:

So who wants 20 more yards?

 

 

Nice kit. Now If only doing just that could add 20 yards... 

[TiScape]

Lock it up now! You’ve been warned🔒 😂 

[bscinstnct]

30 minutes ago, TiScape said:

If this turns into a Bryson or anyone else on PEDs thread I’d recommend running and hiding. It’s happened a few times and it NEVER ends well! 

 

Main event is when 

 

Me and TiScape mix it up about ‘roids!

 

I be like, 
 

I lift in gorilla gym in the 90s!

 

TiScape like, 

 

You stoned on weed cookies!

 

🤣

 

Cheers, TS ; )

 

I doin one armed pull-ups now! Well, almost, sort of one arm assist but still still, not bad for 52! Lol

 

 

[TiScape]

1 minute ago, bscinstnct said:

 

Main event is when 

 

Me and TiScape mix it up about ‘roids!

 

I be like, 
 

I lift in gorilla gym in the 90s!

 

TiScape like, 

 

You stoned on weed cookies!

 

🤣

 

Cheers, TS ; )

 

I doin one armed pull-ups now! Well, almost, sort of one arm assist but still still, not bad for 52! Lol

 

 

I believe I simply asked “are you high?” I think we now know the answer!  🍪 😂 ✌🏼 

[Christen_The_Sloop]

1 hour ago, dlygrisse said:

My guess is he is doing all sorts of things to enhance his performance, including supplements.  With all the attention he is getting I would be highly surprised if he was taking anything on the banned substance list.  I'm not sure what is on the list the PGA tour uses, but Bryson is working his butt off, and if anything he is taking is allowing his body to recover faster it seems to be working.  

 

I just don't see PGA tour players being called before a special committee in congress and being subpoenaed to testify.   It will certainly inspire more people to go this route, golfers will end up training more like baseball players than traditional golfers, but ya still gotta have a short game.  

 

I will add to this that he was quoted as saying he wants to live for a long, long time. Taking steroids would be the last thing, I would do if that was one of my goals. If you want explosive power and your goal window is tiny, like sprinting, I can see taking something likes that, but there are healthier ways nowadays - and I would think with the possibility of participating in an Olympics, one wouldn`t risk the embarrassment.

 

 

[bscinstnct]

15 minutes ago, TiScape said:

I believe I simply asked “are you high?” I think we now know the answer!  🍪😂 ✌🏼 

Ha! I wish, gummies not ideal when you’re workin a deficit; )

 

But, as soon as I get to like 12%, if ever, I gonna gummy it up and go to Wendy’s!

 

 

[phizzy30]

52 minutes ago, Arn said:

So who wants 20 more yards?

 

 

Is that your stash bro?  If so, very impressive.  🤣

[phizzy30]

I know some of you guys believe that no one on tour uses PEDs.  All I will say is that it's extremely naive to think so and leave it at that.  Not speculation on my part, but I work in the sports industry and have pro athletes as clients. 

[TiScape]

5 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

gummy it up and go to Wendy’s!

 

 

Now that’s what I call one hell of a Saturday night! Lol

[TiScape]

4 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

I know some of you guys believe that no one on tour uses PEDs.  All I will say is that it's extremely naive to think so and leave it at that.  Not speculation on my part, but I work in the sports industry and have pro athletes as clients. 

🙈🙉🙊