Mizuno MP-22

[lefty1978]

21 minutes ago, Lefty87 said:

Just saw that…thank you thank you thank you!!!

I am actually pretty excited about this.

[Str8Putt]

4 hours ago, mtnbiker5 said:

If Mizuno Pro is actually written on the back of the club as pictured above Mizuno ruined the club, period.  Too busy.  Will not buy.  Please remove it.  Similar to my MP 20's, little tweaks here and there but club looks busy with Mizuno Pro written on back.  Please remove or will not purchase.  

Gotta agree that scripting doesn't look clean. 

Won't say I won't buy but hoping for cleaner lines.

Hoping to see more pictures and I know someone said they're not supposed to be released until maybe Feb of next year.

 

[Str8Putt]

2 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

Feb iron release. driver and wedges this fall.

Any idea when they'll start taking orders? 

[Str8Putt]

1 hour ago, Brizam said:

They look great... I don't get the hang up on the Mizuno pro script on the back.  Are you building a vanity bag or a bag of tools... When you go to Lowes to buy a hammer are you critiquing the script on the handle, or are you buying it to get the job done.

As long as they look good at address and get the job done then they can have what ever they want on the back.  I dig the retro vibe to it, but I also know the US version will more than likely be MP22 on the back, makes no difference. 

Honestly both.

Nothing like looking at a nice clean bag of blades...

Showed my son a picture of irons that I was looking at  one time and he said those look to pretty to hit and I said who said anything about hitting them? Take them out of the car, put on the cart, take a few pictures and then put them back in the trunk 🤣

but yeah I like my stuff looking good and playing good. 

 

[CW13]

Is it just me or does the logo area of the 221 almost look like it’s two pieces or is it just glare? If this is how they did the MMC I’m gonna freak out with how cool it is. 

[Lefty87]

2 minutes ago, CW13 said:

Is it just me or does the logo area of the 221 almost look like it’s two pieces or is it just glare? If this is how they did the MMC I’m gonna freak out with how cool it is. 

I’m thinking that’s just the lighting/glare, but who knows. 

[QuigleyDU]

29 minutes ago, Str8Putt said:

Any idea when they'll start taking orders? 

purely guessing but I would say based on history. End of Jan'ish.

 

[Lefty87]

Anyone have an idea for how the 223/MMC would compare to the 921 Forged? I played the 919 Forged but, since the 921 Forged isn’t offered for lefties, I’m very interested in the 223. 

[colby395]

No idea if this is true or not, but some employees at my local golf galaxy said that pre-orders would begin in September with the clubs shipping in October 

[typedef]

So there appears to be an interesting technology story for the Mizuno Pro 223.

 

For the 4-7 irons, the marking on the hosel reads "GF FORGED HD, CHROMOLY", whereas the 8-PW reads "GF FORGED HD, 1025E".  Furthermore, appearance of the 223 8-PW certainly appears to be that of a traditional, one-piece forged cavity back.

 

7-iron shown below:

 

8-iron shown below

[HarborMike]

45 minutes ago, Lefty87 said:

Anyone have an idea for how the 223/MMC would compare to the 921 Forged? I played the 919 Forged but, since the 921 Forged isn’t offered for lefties, I’m very interested in the 223. 

Different categories of irons. MMC are player cavity backs with multi material construction with copper underlay. 921 Forged are one piece forged players distance irons with chromoly in 4-7 irons. I play the 921 Forged and tested MP-20 MMC. MMC are a little more compact and less forgiving in my opinion. MMCs are also slightly weaker in lofts (e.g. 7-iron is 32 degrees vs. 31 degrees in the JPX) thus you’ll lose a little bit of distance. 
 

Here’s a video that does a good comparison:

 

Edited July 13, 2021 by HarborMike

[hwwong]

Just saw this on IG

 

[halfsumo]

Someone called the insert on the PING i210 "the toaster". Lol, this kind of looks like it has a toaster insert in the longer irons while the shorter may be solid 1 piece. Love it. Love the Mizuno Pro script, might be worth ordering from Japan. 

[noodle3872]

5 hours ago, typedef said:

So there appears to be an interesting technology story for the Mizuno Pro 223.

 

For the 4-7 irons, the marking on the hosel reads "GF FORGED HD, CHROMOLY", whereas the 8-PW reads "GF FORGED HD, 1025E".  Furthermore, appearance of the 223 8-PW certainly appears to be that of a traditional, one-piece forged cavity back.

 

7-iron shown below:

 

8-iron shown below

Following the 921 Forged pattern with springier Chromoly faces in the 4-7 irons and 1025E in the scoring irons for feel and precision.

[Red4282]

I know its been said the mizuno pro badge is a jdm thing but i actually really like it. Has a vintage feel to it which isnt a bad thing for mizuno.

[MerryTex]

That iron in JR’s bag looks like it’s got a FAT muscle! Feel all day there. Not digging the iron that looks to replace the MMC but the blade looks nice. 

[Breezy-3-]

I’ll be happy to hang onto my MP 20 MMC’s but I’d love to see some photos of that new wedge in the wilderness…

Edited July 13, 2021 by Breezy-3-

[Eeecc]

7 hours ago, typedef said:

So there appears to be an interesting technology story for the Mizuno Pro 223.

 

For the 4-7 irons, the marking on the hosel reads "GF FORGED HD, CHROMOLY", whereas the 8-PW reads "GF FORGED HD, 1025E".  Furthermore, appearance of the 223 8-PW certainly appears to be that of a traditional, one-piece forged cavity back.

 

7-iron shown below:

 

8-iron shown below

That 8 iron looks a bit like MP55 (JDM only) vibes

[Golfingfanatic]

interesting picture I found on Getty. Looks like JR is using the JDM version. Interesting muscle design, too.

 

[craz-e]

14 minutes ago, Golfingfanatic said:

interesting picture I found on Getty. Looks like JR is using the JDM version. Interesting muscle design, too.

 

 

Shape looks good

[BCULAW]

Reminiscent of the MP69 muscle shape. Not sure I’m on board after the classic looks of the MP20. I’m sure I’ll change my tune after seeing them in person. 

[RacineBoxer]

4 hours ago, noodle3872 said:

Following the 921 Forged pattern with springier Chromoly faces in the 4-7 irons and 1025E in the scoring irons for feel and precision.

I think the HMB’s did that as well. 

[noodle3872]

1 hour ago, RacineBoxer said:

I think the HMB’s did that as well. 

No, HMB are all hollow Chromoly heads. 

[wam78]

The 8i shown above has a little mp66 vibe happening.  I’m intrigued!

[Foreleft]

Looks like an interesting update for Miz, particularly in the MMC and hollow iron.  Could see the blade fans preferring the 20 shape.

[typedef]

46 minutes ago, noodle3872 said:

No, HMB are all hollow Chromoly heads. 

 

@RacineBoxer is right, the MP-20 HMB uses forged Chromoly in the 2-8, with 1025E in the 9/PW ... along with hollow construction, tungsten in the 2-7, etc.

 

From the Mizuno website: https://mizunogolf.com/us/golf-clubs/mp-series/mp-20-hmb/

 

"Our multi-thickness Grain Flow Forged Chromoly (2-8 iron face and neck) is dialed in to be consistently hot across the clubface. Twin 12g Tungsten weights (2-7 iron) deliver stability and an easy launch. A softer 1025E Pure select mild carbon steel makes the short irons (9/pw) soft and responsive."

 

 

The Mizuno Pro 225 does the same thing, using Chromoly in the 2-8, with 1025E in the 9/G/P.

 

Note the "CHROMOLY" on the hosel of the 8-iron:

 

And the "1025E" on the hosel of the 9-iron

 

 

Here are the links to the USGA database in case anyone else wants to have a look:

https://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/ResultDisplay.aspx?clubtype=Iron&Manf=Mizuno Corp.&Prod=Mizuno Pro 221

https://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/ResultDisplay.aspx?clubtype=Iron&Manf=Mizuno Corp.&Prod=Mizuno Pro 223

https://www.usga.org/InfoClubsDB/ResultDisplay.aspx?clubtype=Iron&Manf=Mizuno Corp.&Prod=Mizuno Pro 225

Edited July 14, 2021 by typedef
Adding USGA database links

[QuigleyDU]

MP20 MB and MMC are sold out. What is out on the selves is it. No more custom orders for those.

[Lefty87]

13 hours ago, HarborMike said:

Different categories of irons. MMC are player cavity backs with multi material construction with copper underlay. 921 Forged are one piece forged players distance irons with chromoly in 4-7 irons. I play the 921 Forged and tested MP-20 MMC. MMC are a little more compact and less forgiving in my opinion. MMCs are also slightly weaker in lofts (e.g. 7-iron is 32 degrees vs. 31 degrees in the JPX) thus you’ll lose a little bit of distance. 
 

Here’s a video that does a good comparison:

 

I appreciate the insight. Do you think the gap in forgiveness from the JPX Forged to the 223/MMC would be that extreme? What about the JPX Tour vs the 223/MMC? The Tour is pretty darn thin. The 223 appears to have a larger cavity and more weight at the bottom. 

[MattC555]

I found the Tour to play pretty similar to the MB.  Forgiving....for a blade.  It's probably somewhere between the MB and the MMC in terms of forgiveness and the lofts match the MB. 

 

I wonder if they will keep the copper underlay with the new MB22.  I'm a big fan, and this it dampens toe strikes.  There is much less stinging in my hands with my MB20's over my previous MB68's. 

[halfsumo]

Prob need a new thread for these