Mizuno MP-22

[mallrat]

On 7/15/2021 at 8:09 AM, ARL67 said:

221 looks like the love-child of MP-5 with and MP-37 , I like !!

My first thought was headsize and top line of MP-4 with the muscle of the MP-5

[craz-e]

1 hour ago, mallrat said:

My first thought was headsize and top line of MP-4 with the muscle of the MP-5

 

That sounds like a winning formula to me!

[ewaldbeukes]

On 7/15/2021 at 10:36 AM, Golfingfanatic said:

shout out to sms_on_tour for the close-ups.

If we get the traditional non-Japan market badging im in.... Looks a bit like the shape of my MP5

[Mp14forlife]

So I just had the golf shop call me. I had an order in for the MP20's. The golf shop said mizuno contacted them and said they are unable to fill the order and they're done for the mp20s... This was a revised order from my previous MP20. So the golf shop is going to give me store credit.  So looks like I will be waiting for the MP22's. lol.... I truly hope these are a tad bit "heftier" like the MP5's... I think if they could come up the heft of the mp5 but the feel of the mp20's than it would be a homerun. 

[Tdsjfb]

17 minutes ago, Mp14forlife said:

So I just had the golf shop call me. I had an order in for the MP20's. The golf shop said mizuno contacted them and said they are unable to fill the order and they're done for the mp20s... This was a revised order from my previous MP20. So the golf shop is going to give me store credit.  So looks like I will be waiting for the MP22's. lol.... I truly hope these are a tad bit "heftier" like the MP5's... I think if they could come up the heft of the mp5 but the feel of the mp20's than it would be a homerun. 

Interesting - thanks!

[Foreleft]

Wondering if the insert on the 223 is permanently affixed like the MMC or more like an inser on the Ping i210?

[Bunkersarebigcups]

11 minutes ago, Foreleft said:

Wondering if the insert on the 223 is permanently affixed like the MMC or more like an inser on the Ping i210?

I'd be surprised if it's not co-forged in and permanently fixes like before. Its still an MP iron and Mizuno (luckily) tend to be a little more conservative with those

[RacineBoxer]

18 minutes ago, Bunkersarebigcups said:

I'd be surprised if it's not co-forged in and permanently fixes like before. Its still an MP iron and Mizuno (luckily) tend to be a little more conservative with those

 

What do you mean by "co-forged in"? Do they create the cavity in the forging process, then stick the other piece of metal in there, heat it some more, pound it in the presses again so the two types of metal are basically fused together? Something kind of like that? And I assume its an advantage because the club feels more solid, like the two different metals are just one piece, rather than a cavity with something shoved into it (like an insert)? Just curious. 

 

[RacineBoxer]

23 hours ago, Mp14forlife said:

So I just had the golf shop call me. I had an order in for the MP20's. The golf shop said mizuno contacted them and said they are unable to fill the order and they're done for the mp20s... This was a revised order from my previous MP20. So the golf shop is going to give me store credit.  So looks like I will be waiting for the MP22's. lol.... I truly hope these are a tad bit "heftier" like the MP5's... I think if they could come up the heft of the mp5 but the feel of the mp20's than it would be a homerun. 

 

This might mean that the 22's are closer than some have speculated. I think I saw some Spring '22 references in this thread. I know everyone is cranky about club availability and the supply chain problems. Ping is having the same problems (and have been for some time). But I ordered the G425's when they were released and got them in about 6 weeks. Completely reasonable. I would think that these OEM's are pretty cognizant that they need to make sure the supply chain is filled up prior to a new launch. I would think the first 4 months of a new launch is more important than months 20-24 in a 2 year cycle. Perhaps the 22's will be shipping in August-September. 

[halfsumo]

2 hours ago, RacineBoxer said:

 

What do you mean by "co-forged in"? Do they create the cavity in the forging process, then stick the other piece of metal in there, heat it some more, pound it in the presses again so the two types of metal are basically fused together? Something kind of like that? And I assume its an advantage because the club feels more solid, like the two different metals are just one piece, rather than a cavity with something shoved into it (like an insert)? Just curious. 

 

This is exactly the story from the first iteration of their titanium insert starting like 10 years ago. MP 58's were the first I think...could be a model or two before that. Its lighter titanium that the forge together with the carbon steel.

[Str8Putt]

3 hours ago, RacineBoxer said:

 

This might mean that the 22's are closer than some have speculated. I think I saw some Spring '22 references in this thread. I know everyone is cranky about club availability and the supply chain problems. Ping is having the same problems (and have been for some time). But I ordered the G425's when they were released and got them in about 6 weeks. Completely reasonable. I would think that these OEM's are pretty cognizant that they need to make sure the supply chain is filled up prior to a new launch. I would think the first 4 months of a new launch is more important than months 20-24 in a 2 year cycle. Perhaps the 22's will be shipping in August-September. 

Maybe they're going to take preorders in Aug/Sept but still shipping early 2022. They may have stopped filling MP20 orders in order to have more grips and shafts available for the MP22's

 

Also I think Mizuno had to at least release some photos to get the buzz going. Otherwise risk players maybe looking to Titleist or other clubs that may announce. 

[QuigleyDU]

7 minutes ago, Str8Putt said:

Maybe they're going to take preorders in Aug/Sept but still shipping early 2022. They may have stopped filling MP20 orders in order to have more grips and shafts available for the MP22's

 

Also I think Mizuno had to at least release some photos to get the buzz going. Otherwise risk players maybe looking to Titleist or other clubs that may announce. 

I just heard January. I was originally told Feb but sounds like it may be January now.. that is a little good news.. 

[Str8Putt]

2 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

I just heard January. I was originally told Feb but sounds like it may be January now.. that is a little good news.. 

Will Jan be for orders and instore purchase or do you think we'll have preorders around their normal Aug/Sept time frame?

 

Curious to what there shaft options will be. I know when custom order goes up for ordering on TGW. I'll be placing mine

[Mp14forlife]

I called mizuno, just the 800 number. I spoke to a customer support person. They said they have kept a lot of the staff in the dark about the release. He compared it to the secrecy of the coca cola recipe. I guess there is a big meeting in August to discuss all of the order stuff/release. The support person indicated orders most likely being filled in the spring but not sure on Preorders. I'd think January would be a good estimate on a preorder.  I'd love to see in hand pics at least to see how these look at address. I couldn't careless about the script on the back of the club, I don't hit the golf ball with the back of the club...lol... Give me a tad bit more forgiveness, maybe not as clunky as the mp5's but nothing butter knifey either. A little bit more heft than the 20's but have that 20's feel. 

[Bunkersarebigcups]

3 hours ago, RacineBoxer said:

 

What do you mean by "co-forged in"? Do they create the cavity in the forging process, then stick the other piece of metal in there, heat it some more, pound it in the presses again so the two types of metal are basically fused together? Something kind of like that? And I assume its an advantage because the club feels more solid, like the two different metals are just one piece, rather than a cavity with something shoved into it (like an insert)? Just curious. 

 

Exactly that. Years back they started it. The Titanium is not glued or welded in, but forged in. Steel contracts more than titanium when it cools down, so it shrinks and locks the titanium in.

 

At least thats what they claim, Im no metallurgist =D

 

[QuigleyDU]

16 minutes ago, Str8Putt said:

Will Jan be for orders and instore purchase or do you think we'll have preorders around their normal Aug/Sept time frame?

 

Curious to what there shaft options will be. I know when custom order goes up for ordering on TGW. I'll be placing mine

I dont know. I am guessing preorders will be around the end of the year or first part of Jan.. Total guess at the moment. 

[Tdsjfb]

4 hours ago, RacineBoxer said:

 

What do you mean by "co-forged in"? Do they create the cavity in the forging process, then stick the other piece of metal in there, heat it some more, pound it in the presses again so the two types of metal are basically fused together? Something kind of like that? And I assume its an advantage because the club feels more solid, like the two different metals are just one piece, rather than a cavity with something shoved into it (like an insert)? Just curious. 

 

 

My understanding is the MP20 MMC's titanium cavity inserts, when heated, "cure/cool" at a different rate as the forged metal. In effect, the titanium insert requires no process to attach to the body, but rather "locks in" due to the different properties of each metal.

[DesertRain]

Wondering if the 225 will have hollow body like HMB? 

[rt_charger]

Couple of in hand photos of the 225's

[QuigleyDU]

1 hour ago, rt_charger said:

Couple of in hand photos of the 225's

That looks really good! Love the low offset!

[Bunkersarebigcups]

9 hours ago, DesertRain said:

Wondering if the 225 will have hollow body like HMB? 

Pretty safe bet. If it was a solid head it would be really heavy at that size ;)

[jetmech879]

I already have my combo set order typed up and ready to send to my fitter! 2-5 in 225s and 6-PW in 221s with Project X LS 6.5s and blue icon ferrules. Is that wrong😳

[Bunkersarebigcups]

9 hours ago, rt_charger said:

Couple of in hand photos of the 225's

With all the stuff coming out right now, this year might end up being a lot more expensive than I hoped...

[RacineBoxer]

13 hours ago, DesertRain said:

Wondering if the 225 will have hollow body like HMB? 

 

I think that's a safe bet. I hope they give it a bit more pop/distance. I'm not sure I follow the logic of making a hollow bodied iron and then having it be shorter than both the MMC and 921F.

[mtnbiker5]

Need to test against MP20 to see, feel difference.

[Warrick]

I am confused here……..

 

I have played almost every release since MP 64, and not sure why any credence is being placed on these pics we are seeing.

 

I may be wrong, but do not think we are getting anything like what has been shown here

 

JMO

[2over]

14 hours ago, Warrick said:

I am confused here……..

 

I have played almost every release since MP 64, and not sure why any credence is being placed on these pics we are seeing.

 

I may be wrong, but do not think we are getting anything like what has been shown here

 

JMO

Because Chris Voshall re-tweeted SMS' pics on his Twitter account. Can't get better confirmation this is legit than that!

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by 2over

[willsmithpro]

On 3/11/2021 at 7:55 PM, jdubya13 said:

I just put MP32s in play after playing a mixed set of MP18s the last couple of years. I have my eyes on a set of MP37s on the electric bay. 
 

Anything Mizuno MP is good by me...

 

[SouthpawRob]

I just bought a brand new set of mp20 5i-PW for 700$. Its going to be the first set of mizunos i’m going to own. I was going to wait for the new mp22, but not sure if there will be that much of a difference to justify spending over 1200$ and waiting possibly another 6+ months. good idea or bad idea? 

[Warrick]

2 hours ago, 2over said:

Because Chris Voshall re-tweeted SMS' pics on his Twitter account. Can't get better confirmation this is legit than that!

 

As I said, may be wrong, just different than I have seen over the years