Mizuno MP-22

[Red4282]

19 hours ago, golfman1023 said:

Something I want to add, taking all of this in

 

If, as Vosh says, "You're either an MP guy or a JPX guy" and that most golfers won't float between the lines,

 

Then why are they bringing JPX tech into the MP line? Why are they making JPX that are less forgiving than MP?  

 

It seems the JPX Tour is really the MP-20 CB, and the upcoming 223 is going to be more of a techy T100 type iron. 

 

The waters are muddy, and it's really not our problem to figure out... we'll see how Mizuno handles these concerns. 

I think he means stylistic… satin vs chrome, classic vs modern looks etc

[Mizuno North]

1 hour ago, jetmech879 said:

I just got the ST-Z driver and love it! So why wouldn’t I go ahead and buy the 220G in October and a new set of MP 22X in January!?!?🤣

 

I just bought the ST-Z 3 wood recently.
Planning to get the ST-Z driver spring next year.

ST-G is a different type of driver.

[mtnbiker5]

On 8/15/2021 at 6:07 AM, rt_charger said:

JPX was always the more modern looking, and higher tech iron. It's not common someone will float between the two lines - as stated by Chris Voshall, people are either an MP, or a JPX person. 

 

The MMC is the Mizuno equivalent to the T-100, where the tour is more or less a 620 CB.

T100 feels like crap to me compared to my MP 20's...

[sg91]

4 hours ago, mtnbiker5 said:

T100 feels like crap to me compared to my MP 20's...

I don't think anyone were saying they feel the same, more that they sit in the same place(s) within the product line up.

[DatDude7984]

11 hours ago, mtnbiker5 said:

T100 feels like crap to me compared to my MP 20's...

I play the mp20 mbs and honestly they feel nice but they’re really not the softest mizuno irons I’ve played. I just purchased the 2021 t100 and I’m getting rid of my mbs. I like the mp20 mbs a lot but the titleist t100 imo was overall just a better iron. The feel wasn’t as good as mizuno which was to be expected but it wasn’t that far off. Add that to the fact that the top line was thinner in the t100 and offset was close to identical in most irons in the t100 cavity back compared to the mp20 blades and it was an easy decision for me. 

[mtnbiker5]

Nice!  To each his own...

[SwingMan]

16 hours ago, DatDude7984 said:

I play the mp20 mbs and honestly they feel nice but they’re really not the softest mizuno irons I’ve played. I just purchased the 2021 t100 and I’m getting rid of my mbs. I like the mp20 mbs a lot but the titleist t100 imo was overall just a better iron. The feel wasn’t as good as mizuno which was to be expected but it wasn’t that far off. Add that to the fact that the top line was thinner in the t100 and offset was close to identical in most irons in the t100 cavity back compared to the mp20 blades and it was an easy decision for me. 

 

Easy .... until February 2022.

[DatDude7984]

4 hours ago, SwingMan said:

 

Easy .... until February 2022.

Lol ehhh, i get like that with a lot of releases. Been a mizuno guy for a long time. Not overly impressed with what I’ve seen so far for the mp22. To each their own. 

[Trippels]

So both the 225 and 223 set will have a gap wedge? Any chance the 221 blades will also have one, or just the standard PW?

[Bunkersarebigcups]

I just wish Mizuno finally brings these out… I am due to going for a driver and an iron fitting and want those included 😕

[Brooks_Cupcake]

11 hours ago, SwingMan said:

 

Easy .... until February 2022.

Yes, confirmed yesterday with my rep that pre-orders for the new irons should be December with February launch

Edited August 18, 2021 by Brooks Cupcake

[TiScape]

1 hour ago, Brooks Cupcake said:

Yes, confirmed yesterday with my rep that pre-orders for the new irons should be December with February launch

So they launch in only ~half a year from now! Not bad. This thread will be at about 150 pages by then! 😩 🤣

Edited August 18, 2021 by TiScape

[Whatnogarnish]

52 minutes ago, TiScape said:

So they launch in only ~half a year from now! Not bad. This thread will be at about 150 pages by then! 😩 🤣

Gives you all time to go get fitted. I bet heads will arrive a couple months sooner. 
 

I dont need irons, but I would like to see if these will beat out my Bridgestones. I love the looks so far, seems they widened that sole a bit on the blade. 

[TiScape]

4 minutes ago, Whatnogarnish said:

Gives you all time to go get fitted. I bet heads will arrive a couple months sooner. 
 

I dont need irons, but I would like to see if these will beat out my Bridgestones. I love the looks so far, seems they widened that sole a bit on the blade. 

I never need irons when I buy new ones. 😂 

[robbie91]

Does anyone else think the 223 looks like a Ping I210. The bar in the cavity looks almost identical. Are any of the tour pros using the 223 or just the 221? 

 

Also, does anyone have any idea where the 223 is supposed to sit forgiveness wise against the JPX Tour? I realize they are two different lineups but it seems like they are kind of spilling into each other at this point. 

Edited August 18, 2021 by robbie91

[Str8Putt]

8 hours ago, Brooks Cupcake said:

Yes, confirmed yesterday with my rep that pre-orders for the new irons should be December with February launch

I'll be jumping on that preorder train. Hope they'll at least get delivered by March since I have a BDay that month

[Jjones519a]

any other pics?  Especally of the mid MP irons?

 

[Mizuno North]

8 hours ago, robbie91 said:

Also, does anyone have any idea where the 223 is supposed to sit forgiveness wise against the JPX Tour? I realize they are two different lineups but it seems like they are kind of spilling into each other at this point. 

 

No doubt more forgiving than the 921 Tour (second smallest iron head Mizuno makes).

Probably similar to the 921 Forged.

[rt_charger]

10 hours ago, robbie91 said:

Does anyone else think the 223 looks like a Ping I210. The bar in the cavity looks almost identical. Are any of the tour pros using the 223 or just the 221? 

 

Also, does anyone have any idea where the 223 is supposed to sit forgiveness wise against the JPX Tour? I realize they are two different lineups but it seems like they are kind of spilling into each other at this point. 

They'll be a bit more forgiving than the tours, a bit less than JPX forged. They are entirely a T-100 competitor in terms of where they sit in the Mizuno catalogue - a player's iron with forgiveness, but not excessive amounts.

[Golfjack]

On 8/13/2021 at 3:44 AM, TiScape said:

Buried somewhere within the 26 pages. Yes, traditionally it’s on the Japanese line exclusively. Looks like it’s crossing over now. 
 

*When I first read your post I thought of the people here that would have responded. “Uh, that has already been covered here in detail”. 😂 Like, how dare you don’t peruse the entire 26 page thread 😜

Bro I try, and usually up to page 10 I click to last page lol.  I'm guessing there will probably be a guy after me too ha.  

[SwingMan]

On 8/18/2021 at 6:50 PM, robbie91 said:

Does anyone else think the 223 looks like a Ping I210. The bar in the cavity looks almost identical. Are any of the tour pros using the 223 or just the 221? 

Mizuno does not believe in a huge feel cushion behind the face or in foam filled hollow irons.

 

So the answer is no as to an i210 comparison..

[MK7Golf21]

wonder how that gel filled stuff holds up after 10-20 years in an iron. Dry out and changes feel

[rt_charger]

Closest we've had to an address pic of the new irons if I'm not mistaken

Edited August 21, 2021 by rt_charger

[Trippels]

Likely that the 223s will have similar loft to the current MMC, just with a added 50~degree gap wedge?

[Mizuno North]

22 minutes ago, Trippels said:

Likely that the 223s will have similar loft to the current MMC, just with a added 50~degree gap wedge?

 

Gap wedge for the 223 is confirmed on the USGA and R&A club database.

Lofts have not been confirmed yet.

Edited August 22, 2021 by Mizuno North

[Str8Putt]

When do you guys think we'll start seeing more photos of the irons? Specifically the MB's

Wanting to go 5-PW and some T22 wedges

[m_w]

42 minutes ago, Str8Putt said:

When do you guys think we'll start seeing more photos of the irons? Specifically the MB's

Wanting to go 5-PW and some T22 wedges

 September

[2over]

Could we change the name of this thread to "Mizuno Pro 221, 223, 225 Irons" Since Mizuno released a teaser with the nomenclature?

 

[driverwedge]

On 3/20/2021 at 11:39 AM, jetmech879 said:

The best combo set of Mizuno’s I’ve ever had was 3-6 MP-64 and 7-pw MP-4. I miss that setup. They flowed nicely together but that 3 iron was demanding as all heck! 

Agreed.  I'm playing 4-7 64s and 8-PW 4s.  Nothing I've tried since can get them out of the bag.  Best combo I've had.

[Foreleft]

Have seen in hand photos of 221 &225, but not 223 - which I am most interested in.

 

Can anyone point me to In hand pics of 223?

Edited August 25, 2021 by Foreleft