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11 hours ago, m_w said:

General notes and first impression from hitting ~50ish balls

 

Feel

Obviously always subjective but these irons have a classical Mizuno "hand feel" with a different sound that I have not heard from the MP20's or others. I think the closest in sound is the i59 and i210 - which for me, is a good thing. Its a very satisfying combination. The feel is softer and not as "solid" as i.e. Miura irons (i wouldnt describe Miura as soft, for reference).

 

Consistency

50 balls is likely not enough to tell but so far, I'm impressed. Very tight groupings in terms of speed and spin, haven't had one that over or underperformed significantly

 

Forgiveness

Very high for this class of iron. I think thats the most surprising to me. These are more forgiving than the T100 and i59's for certain. They retain spin and speed better than the MP20 MMC's. I would say they feel at least on the same level as the i210's but with a smaller footprint and better ballspeed retention. What really stood out to me is that they seem to retain speed pretty much all over the face, regardless if low, high, heel or toe strike (please keep in mind, I'm not talking about hoseling it and retaining 120mph, I'm talking off-center strikes). Very impressed by the forgiveness. In this class of irons (coz I know it'll be asked) I'd rank them as follows from most to least "forgiving": 223 > i210 > T100 >= MP20 MMC = i59 > TR20V = CB301 > TC201

 

Progression in set

Very nice to see the set is tuned correctly to enable similar ballflights. My 5 iron shots had the same height as my 7 iron shots and the 9 iron was just a few feet higher. The progressive tech application seems to work well in this set.

 

Turf Interaction

I'll play a round tomorrow and update this. I dont think its possible to judge this off of mats, even thou I'm hitting of a high quality Fiberbuilt.

 

Summary

My initial impression is that these will be a highly successful model for Mizuno and I think they are the first big step that I've seen them take in years. Highly likely that if you are 0 - 15 hcp, these should be on your fitting list for 2022 to try out.

 

 

Curious if distance is similar to other irons?  Also turf interaction is the big one. Hopefully these don’t dig too much. 

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11 hours ago, m_w said:

General notes and first impression from hitting ~50ish balls

 

Feel

Obviously always subjective but these irons have a classical Mizuno "hand feel" with a different sound that I have not heard from the MP20's or others. I think the closest in sound is the i59 and i210 - which for me, is a good thing. Its a very satisfying combination. The feel is softer and not as "solid" as i.e. Miura irons (i wouldnt describe Miura as soft, for reference).

 

Consistency

50 balls is likely not enough to tell but so far, I'm impressed. Very tight groupings in terms of speed and spin, haven't had one that over or underperformed significantly

 

Forgiveness

Very high for this class of iron. I think thats the most surprising to me. These are more forgiving than the T100 and i59's for certain. They retain spin and speed better than the MP20 MMC's. I would say they feel at least on the same level as the i210's but with a smaller footprint and better ballspeed retention. What really stood out to me is that they seem to retain speed pretty much all over the face, regardless if low, high, heel or toe strike (please keep in mind, I'm not talking about hoseling it and retaining 120mph, I'm talking off-center strikes). Very impressed by the forgiveness. In this class of irons (coz I know it'll be asked) I'd rank them as follows from most to least "forgiving": 223 > i210 > T100 >= MP20 MMC = i59 > TR20V = CB301 > TC201

 

Progression in set

Very nice to see the set is tuned correctly to enable similar ballflights. My 5 iron shots had the same height as my 7 iron shots and the 9 iron was just a few feet higher. The progressive tech application seems to work well in this set.

 

Turf Interaction

I'll play a round tomorrow and update this. I dont think its possible to judge this off of mats, even thou I'm hitting of a high quality Fiberbuilt.

 

Summary

My initial impression is that these will be a highly successful model for Mizuno and I think they are the first big step that I've seen them take in years. Highly likely that if you are 0 - 15 hcp, these should be on your fitting list for 2022 to try out.

 

 

These sound to be very promising! From your initial results would be safe to assume they’ll be more forgiving than the 921 tours.

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1 minute ago, m_w said:

After 27 holes today, I can add a bit more color:

 

Turf interaction is very good for me. I'm relatively shallow with my irons, between -2 and -4.5 down. They remind me a lot of a mix between T100 and TC201 as to how they feel through the turf - thats pretty high praise. 

 

I can confirm that forgiveness is on the high side and I would confidently underscore my assessment from yesterday. For me the 223's are pretty long as well. High ballspeed numbers across the range. I didn't manage to take the GCQuad out on all shots on the course but on enough that I feel confident to state this. While this is great, it wasn't great for my scoring since I needed to adjust yardages quite a bit. As a comparison, i59 powerspec 8 iron would be 157-160 for me, 8 iron 223 is 175-178 carry.

 

Spin: For me, they spin less than i59 and slightly less than T100. Probably 350-450rpm less than i59 and 200-300 less than T100 on average (for my delivery, important to note)

 

When I have some time next week, I'll hit them back to back with the i59, MP20MMC and T100 and provide some numbers

 

Thanks man! Performance and feel sound great. How do you like them ? 
 

appreciate the feedback 

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1 minute ago, m_w said:

After 27 holes today, I can add a bit more color:

 

Turf interaction is very good for me. I'm relatively shallow with my irons, between -2 and -4.5 down. They remind me a lot of a mix between T100 and TC201 as to how they feel through the turf - thats pretty high praise. 

 

I can confirm that forgiveness is on the high side and I would confidently underscore my assessment from yesterday. For me the 223's are pretty long as well. High ballspeed numbers across the range. I didn't manage to take the GCQuad out on all shots on the course but on enough that I feel confident to state this. While this is great, it wasn't great for my scoring since I needed to adjust yardages quite a bit. As a comparison, i59 powerspec 8 iron would be 157-160 for me, 8 iron 223 is 175-178 carry.

 

Spin: For me, they spin less than i59 and slightly less than T100. Probably 350-450rpm less than i59 and 200-300 less than T100 on average (for my delivery, important to note)

 

When I have some time next week, I'll hit them back to back with the i59, MP20MMC and T100 and provide some numbers

 

 

Wow that's a big gain of yardage. Did you notice similar distance gains with the other irons?

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19 minutes ago, m_w said:

After 27 holes today, I can add a bit more color:

 

Turf interaction is very good for me. I'm relatively shallow with my irons, between -2 and -4.5 down. They remind me a lot of a mix between T100 and TC201 as to how they feel through the turf - thats pretty high praise. 

 

I can confirm that forgiveness is on the high side and I would confidently underscore my assessment from yesterday. For me the 223's are pretty long as well. High ballspeed numbers across the range. I didn't manage to take the GCQuad out on all shots on the course but on enough that I feel confident to state this. While this is great, it wasn't great for my scoring since I needed to adjust yardages quite a bit. As a comparison, i59 powerspec 8 iron would be 167-170 for me, 8 iron 223 is 175-178 carry.

 

Spin: For me, they spin less than i59 and slightly less than T100. Probably 350-450rpm less than i59 and 200-300 less than T100 on average (for my delivery, important to note)

 

When I have some time next week, I'll hit them back to back with the i59, MP20MMC and T100 and provide some numbers

 

What you are describing is what I’m looking for 

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On 3/13/2021 at 4:12 AM, TLUBulldogGolf said:

I just got MP-20s and they are maybe the friendliest blade I've ever played. I don't know what they can do to improve but I'll be in these for a long time. 

Couldnt agree more!! I have a split set, MMC's from P-7 and HMB's from 6-3. Very easy to use and feel amazing.

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2 hours ago, m_w said:

After 27 holes today, I can add a bit more color:

 

Turf interaction is very good for me. I'm relatively shallow with my irons, between -2 and -4.5 down. They remind me a lot of a mix between T100 and TC201 as to how they feel through the turf - thats pretty high praise. 

 

I can confirm that forgiveness is on the high side and I would confidently underscore my assessment from yesterday. For me the 223's are pretty long as well. High ballspeed numbers across the range. I didn't manage to take the GCQuad out on all shots on the course but on enough that I feel confident to state this. While this is great, it wasn't great for my scoring since I needed to adjust yardages quite a bit. As a comparison, i59 powerspec 8 iron would be 167-170 for me, 8 iron 223 is 175-178 carry.

 

Spin: For me, they spin less than i59 and slightly less than T100. Probably 350-450rpm less than i59 and 200-300 less than T100 on average (for my delivery, important to note)

 

When I have some time next week, I'll hit them back to back with the i59, MP20MMC and T100 and provide some numbers

 

What size are they compared to?

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1 minute ago, m_w said:

not sure I understand the question

When I look down at ball. I felt the t100 and the i59 were a little small for me. Especially thickness wise. I’m not looking for much more. Just a little bit. 
I game srixon 785. They aren’t massive but a little bit more confidence inspiring

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