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I've been trying to make my Odyssey Arm Lock Putter work for me, playing the club flat to the ground and adjusting my posture to it and have found it awkward. This week though I decided to ignore the lie angle and have spend an hour everyday trying different postures, hands up and down the grip etc to figure out what feels most comfortable for me and gives me the most consistent swing.

 

The results...

 

I need to be in a much more upright position in order to hold the club comfortably and still have my eyes over the ball.

 

The problem...

 

All the arm lock putters I can find other than SIK are in the 69-75* lie angle range and i think i need about 79* so will now be going the SIK route. I don't think my stroke lab will cope with being bent 7* upright even though I love the shape and the feel (unless someone can tell me otherwise).

 

Questions...

 

Are these flatter lie angles the reason why a lot of people try arm locks and ending up not getting on with it? 

To me at least, it feels like the forearm anchor promotes a much more upright stance which almost all arm lock putters aren't designed for. It feels like most OEMs add loft to their standard heads to account for the forward lean, but then just stick a longer shaft in and additional weight in the head to compensate.

 

Are there other arm lock makers out there who produce upright options closer to what I am looking for (78-80*)?

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39 minutes ago, Hertsjoatmon said:

I've been trying to make my Odyssey Arm Lock Putter work for me, playing the club flat to the ground and adjusting my posture to it and have found it awkward. This week though I decided to ignore the lie angle and have spend an hour everyday trying different postures, hands up and down the grip etc to figure out what feels most comfortable for me and gives me the most consistent swing.

 

The results...

 

I need to be in a much more upright position in order to hold the club comfortably and still have my eyes over the ball.

 

The problem...

 

All the arm lock putters I can find other than SIK are in the 69-75* lie angle range and i think i need about 79* so will now be going the SIK route. I don't think my stroke lab will cope with being bent 7* upright even though I love the shape and the feel (unless someone can tell me otherwise).

 

Questions...

 

Are these flatter lie angles the reason why a lot of people try arm locks and ending up not getting on with it? 

To me at least, it feels like the forearm anchor promotes a much more upright stance which almost all arm lock putters aren't designed for. It feels like most OEMs add loft to their standard heads to account for the forward lean, but then just stick a longer shaft in and additional weight in the head to compensate.

 

Are there other arm lock makers out there who produce upright options closer to what I am looking for (78-80*)?

@Hertsjoatmon: “+1” ie I share your view!

whilst I dunno the answer w.r.t. new putters per-se... 

 

have you considered buying a 2nd-hand broomstick 🧹 putter , then converting to an ArmLock/Wristlock?


I’m guessing those old broomsticks 🧹 =much more upright? 

https://labgolf.com/broomstick-putters-and-lie-angle-balance/

 

Extract/Quote: “

We can build L.A.B. Golf Broomstick putters to just about any lie angle, but we typically don’t see them go any flatter than 77 degrees. 

The maximum lie angle allowed by the rules of golf is 80 degrees. Our most popular Lie Angle is 79.5 degrees. We stop a half-degree short for safety, because who knows when you’re going to run into a tournament official with a protractor. 

 

==>The Lie Angle of 79.5 degrees is a special number for a lot of broomstickers who want the putter to move as straight back and straight through as possible, and it’s what we recommend for most golfers. It’s not going to be the best lie angle for every golfer, but theoretically, the less the putter has to arc the better it is for most broomstickers. ”

 

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On 3/19/2021 at 3:31 AM, Hertsjoatmon said:

I've been trying to make my Odyssey Arm Lock Putter work for me, playing the club flat to the ground and adjusting my posture to it and have found it awkward. This week though I decided to ignore the lie angle and have spend an hour everyday trying different postures, hands up and down the grip etc to figure out what feels most comfortable for me and gives me the most consistent swing.

 

The results...

 

I need to be in a much more upright position in order to hold the club comfortably and still have my eyes over the ball.

 

The problem...

 

All the arm lock putters I can find other than SIK are in the 69-75* lie angle range and i think i need about 79* so will now be going the SIK route. I don't think my stroke lab will cope with being bent 7* upright even though I love the shape and the feel (unless someone can tell me otherwise).

 

Questions...

 

Are these flatter lie angles the reason why a lot of people try arm locks and ending up not getting on with it? 

To me at least, it feels like the forearm anchor promotes a much more upright stance which almost all arm lock putters aren't designed for. It feels like most OEMs add loft to their standard heads to account for the forward lean, but then just stick a longer shaft in and additional weight in the head to compensate.

 

Are there other arm lock makers out there who produce upright options closer to what I am looking for (78-80*)?

Try a Bobby grace side saddle putter with the asskicker shaft. It is 80 degrees and has the forward press built in. 

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20 hours ago, brentflog said:

Try a Bobby grace side saddle putter with the asskicker shaft. It is 80 degrees and has the forward press built in. 

I'll take a look at their availability in the UK.

 

There was a SIK flo for sale on ebay this week but it sold for £370. I had a max bid on for £355 but was in a meeting during the completion time so didnt get a chance to up my final bid. I think it will cost me about £500-550 to get one imported with taxes etc.

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