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I had a SIM 8* driver on and off last season. I really liked it, actually when I was on it was great. Cracked it not too long ago so contacted TM and they sent me out a new SIM 2 8*. It was probably two months for it to get here, TM said the 8* was on back order. In the mean time I tried the SIM 2 at my local shop and hated it. Now I’ve got this SIM 2 that just arrived yesterday and I’m debating if I should even unwrap it or just sell it so I can buy another SIM.
 

Anyone else have experience with both and find the original SIM to be a better driver?

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This is GolfWRX keep the SIM2 and get a used SIM OG

I game the OG SIM and have hit the SIM2. I dont know if I’d say either one is better, but rather if its a good fit or not. I found SIM2 to be neutral, where as OG is fade biased. If you fight over dra

I got my custom SIM2 today and am completely underwhelmed. The OG SIM blows the new one out of the water. I wasted a lot of money. 

20 minutes ago, Taylormadehunter1 said:

I had a SIM 8* driver on and off last season. I really liked it, actually when I was on it was great. Cracked it not too long ago so contacted TM and they sent me out a new SIM 2 8*. It was probably two months for it to get here, TM said the 8* was on back order. In the mean time I tried the SIM 2 at my local shop and hated it. Now I’ve got this SIM 2 that just arrived yesterday and I’m debating if I should even unwrap it or just sell it so I can buy another SIM.
 

Anyone else have experience with both and find the original SIM to be a better driver?

I game the OG SIM and have hit the SIM2. I dont know if I’d say either one is better, but rather if its a good fit or not. I found SIM2 to be neutral, where as OG is fade biased. If you fight over draws and hooks, the OG is where its at! If you dont fight left as much and you like a little deeper face, then SIM2 may be a better fit. Just my 2 cents. I do think the OG is slightly less spinning as well, but maybe by 100-200 rpms.

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51 minutes ago, Taylormadehunter1 said:

I had a SIM 8* driver on and off last season. I really liked it, actually when I was on it was great. Cracked it not too long ago so contacted TM and they sent me out a new SIM 2 8*. It was probably two months for it to get here, TM said the 8* was on back order. In the mean time I tried the SIM 2 at my local shop and hated it. Now I’ve got this SIM 2 that just arrived yesterday and I’m debating if I should even unwrap it or just sell it so I can buy another SIM.
 

Anyone else have experience with both and find the original SIM to be a better driver?

I went for a fitting a week or so ago. Sim2 good not beat my sim1. Thought sim1 felt better too 

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47 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

I game the OG SIM and have hit the SIM2. I dont know if I’d say either one is better, but rather if its a good fit or not. I found SIM2 to be neutral, where as OG is fade biased. If you fight over draws and hooks, the OG is where its at! If you dont fight left as much and you like a little deeper face, then SIM2 may be a better fit. Just my 2 cents. I do think the OG is slightly less spinning as well, but maybe by 100-200 rpms.

I think that is a great point, I do fight the hooks and found that the OG is more Fade biased which really does help me keep it in play. I also like to have that slider on the sole. Not sure why they did away with that in the new one. 

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I just got the SIM2 and it's better to me. Feels better, a tad more forgiving and still hits bombs. Funny I was making fun of the colors a few months ago and here I am rocking one. Lol.

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There's no difference between the 2 performance wise.  It just really a matter of looks and feel and that is something only you can answer.

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SIM2 for sure sits more neutral, I found the SIM to be a fade machine, and for looks I'd take the orignal SIM. Performance was identical all things considered between the two for me.

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14 hours ago, BogeyLJA said:

I love my OG SIM over the new one. The new fairways seem better for me, better laugh. 


I'd never thought to evaluate fairway woods on their sense of humor, interesting....

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The OG SIM has a slightly more fade basis compared to SIM2. And the SIM2 also launches a touch higher with slightly more spins. Ball speed wise should be identical.

 

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I would have to say that it is a bit more forgiving and it bombs it out there easily as I'm please with mine. Nearly all last summer I gamed the original SIM and Loved it and Im every bit as pleased with the new SIM 2. It's still a bit early and the ground is still very soft so no roll but I carry the ball 254 not too shabby for someone who is 65. I like the new shape and color. Kinda wish it had some sole adjustments but no complaint here as I feel like its an improvement over last years original SIM

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On 3/20/2021 at 4:04 PM, Taylormadehunter1 said:

I had a SIM 8* driver on and off last season. I really liked it, actually when I was on it was great. Cracked it not too long ago so contacted TM and they sent me out a new SIM 2 8*. It was probably two months for it to get here, TM said the 8* was on back order. In the mean time I tried the SIM 2 at my local shop and hated it. Now I’ve got this SIM 2 that just arrived yesterday and I’m debating if I should even unwrap it or just sell it so I can buy another SIM.
 

Anyone else have experience with both and find the original SIM to be a better driver?

 

Great comparison, numbers are close, but all about which head gives you more confidence.

 

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I loved the OG SIM.  But I fight a fade.  I had 13g weight in heel and it worked great.  SIM2 is more neutral and I'm enjoying a slight fade.  I do think SIM2 is more forgiving. I personally did enjoy the firmer impact feel of the OG a bit more, but the SIM2 does feel very solid at impact.  

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On 3/20/2021 at 5:04 PM, Taylormadehunter1 said:

I had a SIM 8* driver on and off last season. I really liked it, actually when I was on it was great. Cracked it not too long ago so contacted TM and they sent me out a new SIM 2 8*. It was probably two months for it to get here, TM said the 8* was on back order. In the mean time I tried the SIM 2 at my local shop and hated it. Now I’ve got this SIM 2 that just arrived yesterday and I’m debating if I should even unwrap it or just sell it so I can buy another SIM.
 

Anyone else have experience with both and find the original SIM to be a better driver?


there’s no “absolute” difference between the sim and sim 2.  There’s no ball speed difference, there’s no real anything difference.  It’s just what works best for you.

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On 3/20/2021 at 5:17 PM, Taylormadehunter1 said:

I think that is a great point, I do fight the hooks and found that the OG is more Fade biased which really does help me keep it in play. I also like to have that slider on the sole. Not sure why they did away with that in the new one. 

As someone who had their OG sim crack on the slider track like many others, I am guess that it was an area of weakness in the OG and prone to issues. It probably made sense, to get rid of it just for the financial impact if they are getting a ton of warranty claims

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For me it is.  Sim 1 swings “smaller “. Sim 2 is more like the og m1.  More mailbox Shaped.  And it’s draw biased.  Hard to hit a fade. It wanted to go left.  I’d put m5-m6 above sim 2 as well.  

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i was getting slightly better ballspeed and lower spin, and better dispersion with the Sim2 than the Sim OG -- that being said, it was not DRASTIC. 

the fact that the head is more neutral did me in and i was able to hit a tiny draw again. since gaming the Sim2 it's night/day on course for me bc i can move it both ways. it's a bit more forgiving IMO than the OG; and spin is what i would consider true backspin and less side spin. again, this is not drastic over the OG, but enough that im' hitting more fairways and that is what got me to switch for good.

HOWEVER...as for the fairways -- i was not sold on the new Ti 3w vs the OG...so, i went with the OG. i don't need a driver replacement; just something that puts me in the fairway when i need it on short par 4s. 

the new hybrid has my attention but, i'm having a hard time parting ways with my Sim max OG 3h...she's a beast. 

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In my opinion The SIM was better for me.. I dont think that is the case for everyone. They are different and do different things. The SIM2 is way more forgiving and neutral. It also has a much deeper face that many prefer. I found the SIM to be faster, the SIM2 launches higher and spins a little more.

 

So while they share a name and similar construction. They are pretty different drivers by their DNA.

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I have been gaming the SIM since it was released.  Great driver for me, I do have a heavier rear weight installed to get to my preferred SW since I play drivers @ 45" with a 61g grip. I am sure the weight in the rear helps with MOI on the SIM.  I purchased a SIM2 same loft and face angle and lie angle.  Installed my go to shaft Ventus in the SIM2, but since weights are not available,  J13 melted the SIM2 head to get it to my 203g weight, melt was done neutral.  The first couple rounds with the SIM2 in same "1 lower" setting it was launching lower and spinning less than my SIM.  The slightly taller face and sound and feel of the SIM2 I liked from the start, just on course results were not anything better than my SIM.   In my situation I had to tinker some more with the setup.  I played my last two rounds with the SIM2 back in "STD" setting and man did it come alive.   Launch and spin were up and the thing I like about the SIM2,  it is not as "right" bias as my old SIM.   I have no left/hook bias,  but just enough where my slight draw is easier to hit when needed.   I was thinking about selling the SIM2 head bc it was not a instant wow, but with a few rounds under the belt it is truly looking to be a better driver for me.    Guess I will have to give someone on BST a deal on my SIM head.   😎

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On 3/20/2021 at 2:04 PM, Taylormadehunter1 said:

I had a SIM 8* driver on and off last season. I really liked it, actually when I was on it was great. Cracked it not too long ago so contacted TM and they sent me out a new SIM 2 8*. It was probably two months for it to get here, TM said the 8* was on back order. In the mean time I tried the SIM 2 at my local shop and hated it. Now I’ve got this SIM 2 that just arrived yesterday and I’m debating if I should even unwrap it or just sell it so I can buy another SIM.
 

Anyone else have experience with both and find the original SIM to be a better driver?

I have both and for the time being I'm going to game the SIM 2.  The only difference is that the SIM is 9 degrees and the SIM 2 is 8.  SIM 2 spins a little less and launches about 2 degrees lower on average.  I find the SIM 2 to be more forgiving as well.  I will keep the OG SIM as my back up.  Both are great performers for me and I don't prefer one over the other, although I find the SIM to be a bit more workable.  Personally if I were in your situation, I would just sell the SIM 2 and get an OG SIM and pocket the extra cash. 

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So being a constant club ho I now have both a Sim and Sim 2 in 8*. I’m going to take them both out and give them a real test and see how it plays out on the course. Figure that is the best way to judge what works best for my game. Don’t need a driving range  or launch monitor hero, I need something that keeps my flight down and the ball in the fairway. 

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