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On 4/7/2021 at 3:46 PM, betarhoalphadelta said:

Of course. Already had one, and working through what I learned. Will have more as needed.

Speed is good...but, control is better. If you go to the range try hitting maybe 2 clubs less to a target. Do this with a whole bucket and that alone will make you a more consistent player. Irons are all about control. After learning some controlled accuracy you can use the speed only where it is needed. Good luck   

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I still don't understand offset... That'll have to be one of the things I learn before I get around to buying clubs.    Not sure you and I are in the same wheelhouse when it comes to clubs.

I measured WTF this morning, had to make adjustments because I hadn't put shoes on and was trying to measure myself, but it came out to closer to 41"... Which seems too high. I'll probably have to hav

I'm now about 8 months back into the game of golf after a 5 year layoff, and minimal rounds the 5 years before that.    I was last fit for clubs in late 2001, so my bag is 20 years old. 

6 hours ago, Double Dodger said:

Speed is good...but, control is better. If you go to the range try hitting maybe 2 clubs less to a target. Do this with a whole bucket and that alone will make you a more consistent player. Irons are all about control. After learning some controlled accuracy you can use the speed only where it is needed. Good luck   

 

Thanks. I have been finding myself clubbing up more in general. I also find that if I dial back effort 10-15%, I hit the ball equally as far and with better dispersion. So I've been trying to do that too. 

 

5 hours ago, inorkuo said:

@betarhoalphadelta i'm in the same boat as you. i picked up the game a few years ago and i'm currently a 19 hcp working hard to improve. i play jpx 919 forged irons and and a ping g410 driver, 3w and hybrid bc i wanted as much forgiviness as possible in the woods.

 

Those 919 forged are some good-looking irons. 

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On 4/30/2021 at 11:40 AM, inorkuo said:

@betarhoalphadelta i'm in the same boat as you. i picked up the game a few years ago and i'm currently a 19 hcp working hard to improve. i play jpx 919 forged irons and and a ping g410 driver, 3w and hybrid bc i wanted as much forgiviness as possible in the woods.

yeah, but what shafts are you using???

Ping G Max 10.5

Epic Max 5 wd

Cobra F9 7 wood

Ping G410 4, 5, & 6 hybrid

PXG Gen2 XF 6-aw

MD5 54* 10ss

Toulon Columbus 34

 

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The shaft weight and flex will allow you to find your comfort zone. There are so many great shafts that will work. Try the Nippon shafts in a Srixon ZX5(cult irons of the year) and see what happens. Then wait forever for it to arrive!!!

Ping G Max 10.5

Epic Max 5 wd

Cobra F9 7 wood

Ping G410 4, 5, & 6 hybrid

PXG Gen2 XF 6-aw

MD5 54* 10ss

Toulon Columbus 34

 

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On 5/1/2021 at 8:09 PM, platgof said:

The shaft weight and flex will allow you to find your comfort zone. There are so many great shafts that will work. Try the Nippon shafts in a Srixon ZX5(cult irons of the year) and see what happens. Then wait forever for it to arrive!!!

My bad, I didn't see where you have tried the Nippons. I guess they are too light for you. Nike made some great irons during the Tiger years. Yeah, go and try some different shafts. I wonder what shafts are in your Nikes?

Ping G Max 10.5

Epic Max 5 wd

Cobra F9 7 wood

Ping G410 4, 5, & 6 hybrid

PXG Gen2 XF 6-aw

MD5 54* 10ss

Toulon Columbus 34

 

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I might need to try some different Nippon shafts... My current clubs are 20 yr old NS 950 in stiff. I suspect they're too light, and at over-length, may play to less stiffness too. 

 

When I was at PGATSS I tried the Modus 120 S, but at only +0.5" I still felt like I was hunching over the ball. So I don't know that it was a very useful test. That and my swing was dog excrement that day.

 

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Seems like a dangerous combo 

Taylormade M3 9*  KBS TD Cat4

Taylormade M3 4HL Hzrdus Yellow 63g

New Level 18* KBS Tour Prototype 95X

Mizuno JPX 919 Tours 3-PW Project X 6.0's

Cleveland RTX4 Raw 50/54/58 Project X 7.0's

Byron Morgan Stainless DH89 w/ Stability Tour / / Scotty Cameron Studio Design 2 

Bridgestone Tour B XS 

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On 4/5/2021 at 6:09 PM, betarhoalphadelta said:

So... offset. I don't get it.

 

Supposedly offset is good for bad players. They say it makes the club more forgiving and gives you an extra split second to close the club face.

 

There are all sorts of fun things written about offset.  It's great fun sifting through all of it.  🙂

 

Offset will help close the clubface, but not in the manner that's hinted in the descriptions we often see.  The effect of offset is to move the CG farther back, away from the ball.  In the dynamics of the swing, the CG will try to align itself with the shaft.  With it farther back, it will cause the clubhead to move forward, which also helps to close the face at the same time.  It will perhaps make you hit the ball a bit more to the left for a RH player, but it will really cause an increase in trajectory.

 

As you read that, keep in mind it's a paraphrased description by a dumb accountant, not an engineer or physics student.  😉

 

As I've read through this thread, I was thinking it sounds like you would be a good fit for something like the Ping i200 or i210.  They are both quite forgiving (as high or higher MOI than most forgiving stuff from the time of your last fitting), and don't have the flexible face thing that may add some inconsistency for a higher speed player.  

 

Something like an older Ping G series would be forgiving, but I find them less interesting due to the loft progressions, and they're only about the same MOI as the i210, at best.  I also doubt you'll need the assistance with trajectory you'd get from the offset.  😉

 

Couple random thoughts in the morning, as the caffeine is kicking in...

 

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The Ever Changing Bag!  A lot of mixing and matching
Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 10*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 X
Hybrid:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour 2h, NV105 S

Irons grab bag:  2-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft pending); 1-PW Golden Ram TW282 or Vibration Matched Golden Rams, RIP Tour 115 R (coin flipping for the reshaft project); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S
Wedge grab bag:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400; Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Ram Watson Scoring System 55*, DGX 7i shaft; Ram TG-898, DGS400; Ram TG-898, NV105 S; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300; Ram 1982 Commemorative Nickel 58*, Dynamic S; Ram TW282, DGS; Ram TW276, DGS; Ram Troon Grind 58*, Dynamic S; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, DGS400; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, NV105 S
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"
Balls: Wilson Staff Duo Professional or TaylorMade TP5

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The Ever Changing Bag!  A lot of mixing and matching
Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 10*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 X
Hybrid:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour 2h, NV105 S

Irons grab bag:  2-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft pending); 1-PW Golden Ram TW282 or Vibration Matched Golden Rams, RIP Tour 115 R (coin flipping for the reshaft project); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S
Wedge grab bag:  Dynacraft Dual Millled 52*, DGS400; Scratch 8620 DD 53*, SteelFiber i125 S; Ram Watson Scoring System 55*, DGX 7i shaft; Ram TG-898, DGS400; Ram TG-898, NV105 S; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS300; Ram 1982 Commemorative Nickel 58*, Dynamic S; Ram TW282, DGS; Ram TW276, DGS; Ram Troon Grind 58*, Dynamic S; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, DGS400; Maltby Design 60* mid sole, NV105 S
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"
Balls: Wilson Staff Duo Professional or TaylorMade TP5

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