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I’ve searched and read through many threads (and watched the TXG Videos, including the head to head with these two drivers) about the TSi3 and I’ve noticed that there are many Ping driver users who have either tested the TSi3 or have switched. What I’m curious about is this: what are you all seeing in terms of launch and spin differences between the TSi3 and the Ping g410 LST?

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I ended up ordering a TSi3 10* with Ventus Black 6x. Same shaft as I have in my g410 LST but with 1* more in loft. Should be here end of April, can’t wait to see how it performs. 

I played G410 LST last year and moved to TSi3 this season. Loft for loft, TSi3 launches a touch lower for me with less spin. I play the Ventus Black in both heads, and I’m a little bit faster in ball

My experience has been very similar to this.     As a few others said, the feel/sound is probably the biggest difference. I found the Tsi capable of higher ball speeds when flushed; forgivin

The sound its noticeably different between these two.

 

I may not have been consistent enough for the 410 LST but I've played it the last year and a half. I found the TSi3 to fly a little straighter.  Call it forgiveness or maybe the weight suited my swing better, but according to arccos I am hitting it about 7 yards further and finding 5% more fairways (and fewer duck hooks).

 

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2 hours ago, kcstock said:

The sound its noticeably different between these two.

 

I may not have been consistent enough for the 410 LST but I've played it the last year and a half. I found the TSi3 to fly a little straighter.  Call it forgiveness or maybe the weight suited my swing better, but according to arccos I am hitting it about 7 yards further and finding 5% more fairways (and fewer duck hooks).

 

 

I think pretty much the same as this, but don't really have any distance difference in my head.  I played a 9* plus for most of last year and would dabble with a friends 9* LST.  Picked up a TSi3 over the winter and did a bit of a head to head with mine and my friends 9* LST w/ EF Black 75X.  LST was more muted to my ear, was a bit easier to turn over or lose left (std setting and weight neutral).

 

I think on like hits I was a bit longer with the TSi3 (5-7 yards at the back of the range), but close enough I will be trying his again as I preferred that LST over my Plus.

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Sound and feel were the biggest differences for me. TSi3 is hands done better in both areas. I think the TSi looks better as well. As far as results, on course I think the TSi is a little linger and both are pretty anti-left in my opinion. I actually have the weight in the TSi set to draw and still have a hard time turning it over. To me the TSi definitely launches lower loft for loft as well. 

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Ping G425 LST 14.5 Fuji Pro 2.0 7x
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I only demoed the TSi3 in my TSi fitting... I wound up hitting the 2 better.  I thought the 3 was pretty unforgiving overall, or maybe just a lot less than the TSi2 and I am finding the 410 LST to be more forgiving as well.  The TSi3 does look and sound better but I am looking for the complete package and at the top of my list is forgiveness, the TSi3 just didn't cut it for me on mis hits, they were off the planet.

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I played G410 LST last year and moved to TSi3 this season. Loft for loft, TSi3 launches a touch lower for me with less spin. I play the Ventus Black in both heads, and I’m a little bit faster in ball speed with the TSi3 on the best strikes. I give up a little more on the misses, but the Ventus is good and keeps them playable. It’s not exactly ideal conditions outside here in the northeast yet, but I’m hitting my Titleist to the spots where the Ping was getting to last summer which is encouraging. Flight with the TSi3 is definitely a little bit flatter as well because the spin is down. 

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7 hours ago, MPAndreassi said:

I played G410 LST last year and moved to TSi3 this season. Loft for loft, TSi3 launches a touch lower for me with less spin. I play the Ventus Black in both heads, and I’m a little bit faster in ball speed with the TSi3 on the best strikes. I give up a little more on the misses, but the Ventus is good and keeps them playable. It’s not exactly ideal conditions outside here in the northeast yet, but I’m hitting my Titleist to the spots where the Ping was getting to last summer which is encouraging. Flight with the TSi3 is definitely a little bit flatter as well because the spin is down. 

 

 

My experience has been very similar to this.  

 

As a few others said, the feel/sound is probably the biggest difference. I found the Tsi capable of higher ball speeds when flushed; forgiving enough that I don’t notice on course.  

 

I’ve been pleased with the switch, and it has been hard to get a Ping driver out of the bag for me historically. 

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I had a fitting and gained a few mph ball speed with the tsi3 basically no matter the shaft. Feel and sound were improvements over G410 as well. It feels just like the 910D did - such a pleasing pop feel. 

But launch conditions, as far as I could tell, were basically the same loft for loft. 
Ultimately, the tsi3 was a slightly better club, but for now I couldn’t justify spending ~$700. Ended up ordering a Ventus Black for my G410 (which I already love) instead. 

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Here is the TSi3 vs G400LST by Michael Newton:

 

 

 

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