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P790 is already really forgiving 

 

a hybrid in theory will be slightly more - but it would depend on your swing and preferences and also the ball flight would be different 

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I'd recommend the TSi2 hybrid or the u510 if you want the iron. Still rather traditional in shape imo for TSi2 and more forgiving and higher launching. I don't think he's wrong saying the u510 is more forgiving than TSi3 hybrid they are probably very close in that regard.

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It sounds like you have identified the point with your level of speed where your iron distance plateaus, which is when you switch to a hybrid typically. Unless you really love the look of the TSi3, is there any reason you wouldn't just get another TSi2 hybrid for that slot?

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I just got a TaylorMade SIM DHY 4, and really enjoy it.  Easy enough to launch, confidence behind the ball.  I had wished they did a SIM UDI in the 4 iron loft, but now don't mind its size.  Used to have a Srixon, which I also liked, but the DHY is slightly longer shaft, which gaps to my hybrid slightly better.

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Go 3w or 4w, then 7w, then 4h ... like a lot of pro’s

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Another option I’ve been playing with is using different shafts in the 4, 5, 6 irons to make them easier to launch and stop. 
 

I have similar swing speed to the OP and a smooth tempo. I find the center of the face on a mid/long iron without much difficulty. But if I use the same stiff shafts in those as in my scoring irons I don’t hit them high enough. Center contact/moderate swing speed calls for a reg flex shaft and preferably one that launches higher. 
 

After experimenting with some non-matching irons I’ve landed on the Nippon NS Pro 950 reg flex as a suitable shaft for my long irons. I use the Modus 120 stiff in my 7-AW. I just ordered new shafts for my 4/5/6 irons and plan to carry matching irons with slightly mismatched shafts. 

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On 4/3/2021 at 9:18 PM, Jabender said:

In my set I go driver, 3w, TSI2 hybrid 18, then p790 irons. Thinking of replacing my 4 iron with a TSI3 hybrid or u510 3 iron. An I right in thinking the TSI3 will be more forgiving than my p790 4 iron. I’m not a big fan of the fairway looking hybrid. 

Alternatively... would your game/score benefit more from having an extra long iron/club OR an extra specialty wedge? Have you considered: (i) lofting your 3w up to a 4w (16.5/17*), (ii) increasing the loft of your 18* TSi2 hybrid to a 3i (20*), (iii) dropping the p790 4i (21*) from your bag entirely, and (iv) adding a 3rd/4th specialty wedge to your bag to improve your short game gapping! I'd wager that change will have a more significant impact on your game/score 🙂  

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