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Im looking for something to replace my current T100 4 iron. Looking for that special unicorn club and shaft combo that just works. Looking for some sort of iron and not a hybrid. Looking for something I can hit that goes somewhere in then 190-215ish range. For reference, driver swing speed is 104mph. Any recommendations on clubs I should consider for further research and testing? Thanks.

 

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I would say a titleist U500 or U510. I would use whatever shaft you have in your irons 

Any reason you're not looking at T200 or T300?  For me I would look at what I want the club to do.  Off the tee I think DIs work great, but I tend to think a standard GI iron is more playable, especia

Lots of love for the Adams 9031 Proto Hybrid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯    i have a 20* and 23* in my bag with shafts that match my irons, Modus 105 stiff, 1/2 over iron length standard, hs/x1 .    Be

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The Cleveland UHX utility is an easy to hit club.

The Cleveland is kind of an ugly, fat, club but if you can stand the looks, it's on sale now on the Cleveland website for $149. It has a more refined brother, the Srixon ZX, which could be worth checking out.

The Ping Crossovers (various generations) also perform pretty well but they might look too much like a hybrid for you. 

I've hit the Cleveland and Pings. I have not hit the Srixon.  The Cleveland performs well off the deck and the tee. The Ping really shines off the tee and it's okay off the turf. 

To me, the Ping looks or feels upright at address. 

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I have a 24* Adams DHY 9031 Proto with a Modus 105x at 1/2 over 4 iron (standard 3 iron) playing length, that may be worth checking out. It flies higher than an iron, but not as high as a Hybrid or Wood. 

It’s a nice high arcing flight, that enables you to stop it on the green with ease. I would use it from 200-210 yards. It’s in great shape. I ended up replacing it with a NOS Adams 9031 Hybrid with a Modus 105S shaft, which is its hybrid counterpart. 
 

They are the same thing as the Adams Idea Pro DHY and Adams Pro Mini, with a different paint job. 

 

If interested PM 

 

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3 minutes ago, Drivingrangehero said:

I have a 24* Adams DHY 9031 Proto with a Modus 105x at 1/2 over 4 iron (standard 3 iron) playing length, that may be worth checking out. It flies higher than an iron, but not as high as a Hybrid or Wood. 

It’s a nice high arcing flight, that enables you to stop it on the green with ease. I would use it from 200-210 yards. It’s in great shape. I ended up replacing it with a NOS Adams 9031 Hybrid with a Modus 105S shaft, which is its hybrid counterpart. 
 

They are the same thing as the Adams Idea Pro DHY and Adams Pro Mini, with a different paint job. 

 

If interested PM 

 

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Interesting idea.  Thanks for the rec. However, I’m not that interested in the Modus 105 shaft. 

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14 minutes ago, LowAndLeft32 said:

Interesting idea.  Thanks for the rec. However, I’m not that interested in the Modus 105 shaft. 

I have a Modus 120 shaft for it as well. 


I ordered it by accident. New, uncut in plastic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

I also have a Kuro Kage black 80hy stiff that came out of a Callaway Apex 2016 2 hybrid and a Tensei White 90x that came out of a Titleist 4 hybrid as well. Both will fit. .370 bore 
 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Drivingrangehero said:

I have a 24* Adams DHY 9031 Proto with a Modus 105x at 1/2 over 4 iron (standard 3 iron) playing length, that may be worth checking out. It flies higher than an iron, but not as high as a Hybrid or Wood. 

It’s a nice high arcing flight, that enables you to stop it on the green with ease. I would use it from 200-210 yards. It’s in great shape. I ended up replacing it with a NOS Adams 9031 Hybrid with a Modus 105S shaft, which is its hybrid counterpart. 
 

They are the same thing as the Adams Idea Pro DHY and Adams Pro Mini, with a different paint job. 

 

If interested PM 

 

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I always loved the way that club looked. Better than the weird colors on the GAPR that seem to be a direct descendent.

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3 minutes ago, SugarLandGolfer said:

I always loved the way that club looked. Better than the weird colors on the GAPR that seem to be a direct descendent.

 Me too. 
 

it’s like Taylormade  just re-painted the Adams DHY Pro and Pro mini which were already re-paints of the Adams super 9031DHY and Adams super 9031 Proto hybrid

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If I were in your situation (and I might be soon)  I would look at some of the Players Distance or tweener irons that have lower offset like a 921 Forged/HMP, Apex Pro, P770, King Tour or D7 Forged. Maybe throw a graphite shaft in it. Disregard this if you’re OCD and not willing to mix models! 

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12 hours ago, LowAndLeft32 said:

Looking for some sort of iron and not a hybrid.

 

Look back a couple of years in Titleist. Both of these have same loft as T100, and would launch easier.

  • 718 CB 4i = 24*
  • 718 AP2 4i = 24*

Quite a few single AP2 and CB 4 irons available online.

 

Over in TaylorMade, the P790 4i (2017) was popular as a "clear it out" bridge club. But, the 21* head could create a sizable loft/distance gap.

 

Any 21* 4 iron, however, likely would create a distance gap.  

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Driver:  Tour Edge EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  Calla Rogue 4W + 7W

Hybrid:  Calla Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  Tour Edge CB Pro Tungsten 4i-9i

Wedges*:  Calla MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter: Ping Sigma G Tyne (face-balanced)

Ball: Calla SuperHot (Orange preferred)  ||  Bag: Sun Mountain Three 5 stand bag

For details see:  Pending (need protocol to embed file list).

     * MD4 54°/10 S-Grind being tested as possible SW to replace MD3 54°/12 W-Grind.

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Any reason you're not looking at T200 or T300?  For me I would look at what I want the club to do.  Off the tee I think DIs work great, but I tend to think a standard GI iron is more playable, especially from crummy lies.  

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TaylorMade MG2 50, 54, 58, DG TI S400

Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 (2021)

 

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I have a Mizuno MP-20 HMB 4 iron (22 degrees) with the Ventus Blue HB 9x shaft. It's money. 

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Ping G425 LST 3w Ventus Blue

Ping G425 Max 5w Ventus Blue

Ping G425 Max 7w Ventus Blue

Mizuno MP20 5i-Pi Modus 120

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I agree with previous comments about the U500 4 iron. It sets up really nicely. I have it with the Hazardous Smoke shaft in it. It's an easy club to hit and I've found it flexible off the tee to hit low and high as needed.

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Driver: Titleist TS2 9.5* with Hazardous Black
3 Wood: Titleist 917F 15*

3 Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 19*

4 Iron: Titleist U500 with Hazardous Black 

5 Iron - PW: Titleist 690 CB with S400

GW: Vokey SM7 52*

SW: Vokey SM7 56*

LW: Vokey SM7 60*

Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 6 STR

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I can only speak for myself, but as a former semi-anti-hybrid guy, and after a lot of thought of what I wanted in that club slot, I eventually found a hybrid setup to work in place of a "unicorn 4 iron" 🦄.  I went from a player's CB Hogan Apex Edge Pro 23° 4i (awesome feel, just okay off turf)... to a chunkier utility style Mizuno MP-H4 24° 4i (below left, great feel, good off turf)... to a hybrid Adams Super 9031 23° (below right, good feel, pretty easy off anywhere) - with the same 4 iron shaft, same 4i length, same 4i weighting.

 

I loved the MP-H4, loved the hybrid-like ease and launch, but felt why not just try to get a hybrid to work for me that might be better off more lies?  The iron-like hybrid is working out to fill my "unicorn 4 iron slot" even more than the H4 - everything I want in that slot - easy distance, consistent, easy height, workable, knockdown, chipping, versatile, better out of rough and different lies, possible tee duty, and no hooks!

 

Keep experimenting OP, who knows 🤷‍♂️

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+1 for the PD irons instead of GI. I have had pretty good results with a Forged Tec 4i at the top of my Forged CB set. Also I just picked up an i500 with MMT 125tx on the bst and it is a beast. The shaft is the real deal too - just wants to go straight.

 

PD offerings are a goldilocks option in my view. A thinner sole than utilities makes it more playable off of different lies, and less offset than GI clubs makes it more palatable to look down at, while still being much more forgiving than my CBs. In your case I would think a T200 might be the ticket, but as 80% of this thread already stated the U500 seems like a great option too.

 

I play between 5-8 handicap and have a ~108 driver swing speed with aggressive transition, fwiw.

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Fairway: TSi2 14.25* w/ AD IZ 7X 

Hybrid | Utility: TSi2 17* w/ Atmos Blue 85x | i500 3i w/ MMT 125tx

Irons: King Forged CB w/ KBS $ Taper 130X

Wedges: SM7 54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125S

Putter:  California Hollywood 34" Circle H

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My New Level 21*, NLU-01 w/KBS proto is as close to a unicorn as it gets.  It gets me the distance I need which is 230 and spins enough to hold greens.  Almost never balloons on me and anti-left unless I make a horrible swing.  I can actually hit fades with this thing.  Very affordable at 150 a pop as well. 

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I second the recommendation for the small Adams hybrids. I play the Pro Mini, which is essentially the same as the Super 9031 that @joostin plays.  I completely agree with everything he said:

 

3 hours ago, joostin said:

The iron-like hybrid is working out to fill my "unicorn 4 iron slot" even more than the H4 - everything I want in that slot - easy distance, consistent, easy height, workable, knockdown, chipping, versatile, better out of rough and different lies, possible tee duty, and no hooks!

 

I built my 23* with the same shaft as my irons, and at standard 4i length. I play the 26* as my 5i too.  They play like irons, but are really easy to hit, and versatile.

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Lots of love for the Adams 9031 Proto Hybrid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

 

i have a 20* and 23* in my bag with shafts that match my irons, Modus 105 stiff, 1/2 over iron length standard, hs/x1 . 
 

Best iron replacement hybrid I’ve ever hit. I’ve never really been a hybrid guy either, I’ve played the Adams Idea (Original) and the 2016 Callaway Apex. I have hit the TEE EXS Pro, to me it was in between a 9031 and 2016 Apex. The 2016 Apex flew to high for it to be an iron replacement, I was using a t to replace a 5 wood at the time, so I would only consider the Idea, 9031, and EXS Pro as an iron replacement. 
 

TEE makes an Ironwood and also makes an EXS 220 utility iron 

 

https://www.touredge.com/exs-220-ti-utility

 

here is the 9031 DHY and Hybrid side by side 

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