Freezing over the ball

[enders.seb]

Anyone having trouble starting their swing? I’ve been working on my takeaway to stop rolling inside, and while I can do it, I find that thinking about it is causing me to kind of freeze over the ball. I’m just standing there so worried about getting the takeaway right that I have trouble starting my swing. I’m normally a pretty fast player with a natural trigger who just points and shoots but now I just feel very rigid. Anyone have any ideas? Or is it just comfort thing and it’ll go away eventually?

[aramirez24]

Gotta figure out a swing trigger for you. For me personally its my right thumb off the club, look at target, look at ball, thumb down and go. Same for putting and it just came natural to me from practice. Ben Hogan called it a waggle I believe. 

[Barfolomew]

For putting I'll count 1 2 3 4.... 1 for lower hands into place towards body, 2 for press forward, 3 for back swing and 4 for contact. 

 

But you could use something like that for any swing, even if to temporarily get you out of a rut

[rondo01]

It won’t go away unless you make it go away. Fell into this last season and it was painful. A combination of rethinking when the swing happens (think vs play box), and working on Dr Kwon drills have given me a reliable trigger. 
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNdXQDismjD/?igshid=1abh4jbdghv5w

[enders.seb]

3 minutes ago, rondo01 said:

It won’t go away unless you make it go away. Fell into this last season and it was painful. A combination of rethinking when the swing happens (think vs play box), and working on Dr Kwon drills have given me a reliable trigger. 
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNdXQDismjD/?igshid=1abh4jbdghv5w

 

This is really cool. How did you settle on your own trigger?

[rondo01]

6 minutes ago, enders.seb said:

 

This is really cool. How did you settle on your own trigger?

the Kwon drills illuminated how much of a pressure shift I needed to feel in order to get the motor turned over. Now I just do a little shift to the left get the motion going. In that series of Instagram videos Kwon shows the different steps, with the final video being a trigger “inspired” swing.

[m d g]

Try the Wolff leg-kick thing. If nothing else, it will look cool : )

[jomatty]

I can get caught up in so many different thoughts that I can’t pull the trigger.  I make it a point now to do all my thinking before I get over the ball.  Once I step up I force myself to go very quickly and it helps my game.  

[Baitkiller]

Charles? That you?

[enders.seb]

2 minutes ago, Baitkiller said:

Charles? That you?

 

God I hope that's not in my future

[phizzy30]

For me it's the waggle, then off I go.  It wouldn't be a bad idea to start your swing off with a waggle or the Matt Wolff type trigger.  As for the one swing thought you are working on, don't let it consume you. 

[NJBigFish22]

If you are thinking to much, then maybe time spent on the range getting reps developing a routine that works for is the best course of action.  This should get you to the point where you don’t have to think about it.

[aenemated]

I feel like just having a repeatable pre-shot routine helps me more than anything. 

[TheDeanAbides]

This is an anxiety over the new takeaway thing. I think changes to the first move are the hardest to take to the course because you don't really want to be thinking about it, but it's tough to trust that a) you're doing correctly, and b) you're going to hit the ball. 

 

Since working on NTC, I've been adding a quick practice move to P3 whilst standing over the ball to get a feel for what I know I need to do. Then it's back to the ball, trust that the new move will work and go. 

[enders.seb]

5 hours ago, TheDeanAbides said:

This is an anxiety over the new takeaway thing. I think changes to the first move are the hardest to take to the course because you don't really want to be thinking about it, but it's tough to trust that a) you're doing correctly, and b) you're going to hit the ball. 

 

Since working on NTC, I've been adding a quick practice move to P3 whilst standing over the ball to get a feel for what I know I need to do. Then it's back to the ball, trust that the new move will work and go. 

 

Yeah I'm a NTC guy too. It's the "twist" that Monte has us doing along with the hinge in the initial move that is causing me all this anxiety haha. I'm just so dead set on not taking it away open that I start actually just twisting the club while it's on the ground. And then it looks ridiculously shut and I can't pick it up. Based on a lot of the replies I just need to work out a bit of a trigger and pre shot routine

[MaineMariner]

17 hours ago, rondo01 said:

It won’t go away unless you make it go away. Fell into this last season and it was painful. A combination of rethinking when the swing happens (think vs play box), and working on Dr Kwon drills have given me a reliable trigger. 
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNdXQDismjD/?igshid=1abh4jbdghv5w

 

Is there any explanation as to what exactly is going on with these drills? It's very intriguing. I did the two step things a few time and I can obviously tell that it's working on some sort of ground force, biomechanic something or other... but I'd love to know what I'm actually supposed to be feeling/doing. The before/after videos are pretty eye-opening, though I'd like to know what's actually happening to the ball flight/contact.

[glk]

2 minutes ago, MaineMariner said:

 

Is there any explanation as to what exactly is going on with these drills? It's very intriguing. I did the two step things a few time and I can obviously tell that it's working on some sort of ground force, biomechanic something or other... but I'd love to know what I'm actually supposed to be feeling/doing. The before/after videos are pretty eye-opening, though I'd like to know what's actually happening to the ball flight/contact.

What you feel will be individual to you.  But the golf swing, at least good ones, are a dynamic motion versus just a centered turn.  There is horizontal, rotational, and vertical motions which involve using the ground well     These drills get at those motions and are to make the swing more dynamic.

 

can see lots of variation from dr kwon Instagram feed.  https://www.instagram.com/p/CNd5-yvLhKt/
 

dr kwon is a lot more about golf than just these drills but people can actually get into his “lab” outside Dallas and he works a lot with instructors but I don’t know of any rule that the average golfer can’t sign up for his seminars etc and even try to get kwonified themselves.  FYI http://drkwongolf.info/

[rondo01]

11 minutes ago, MaineMariner said:

 

Is there any explanation as to what exactly is going on with these drills? It's very intriguing. I did the two step things a few time and I can obviously tell that it's working on some sort of ground force, biomechanic something or other... but I'd love to know what I'm actually supposed to be feeling/doing. The before/after videos are pretty eye-opening, though I'd like to know what's actually happening to the ball flight/contact.

yeah, to my understanding these are sequence drills that get the pressure, and thus GRFs working in the right manner. To me it feel like you’re getting to the lead side a lot earlier and have the ability to torque the lead foot more, because there’s more pressure in it. 
 

i was tagging @glk as he responded lol. Another video that’s been enlightening:

 

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CDow8ZhD-pD/?igshid=at7fsb2w5tu1

 

point being, I’ve just adopted the lead side shift as part of my overall swing as it 1. Isn’t a thought, 2. Ensures I get pressure to the trail side because I tend to under do it.

Edited April 15, 2021 by rondo01

[TIM929]

trying to change a part of your swing and trying to control the ball on the field at the same time is the formula for a frozen worry. 
 

Got to choose one and commit. 

[mgoblue83]

21 minutes ago, TIM929 said:

trying to change a part of your swing and trying to control the ball on the field at the same time is the formula for a frozen worry. 
 

Got to choose one and commit. 

 

Exactly.. stop playing golf swing and play golf.

 

Work on your swing at the range but on the course just turn your brain off and hit the ball at the target. 

[rondo01]

Appropriate 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNrroltHjxQ/?igshid=1wnvnmnc1t685

[naval2006]

20 hours ago, TIM929 said:

trying to change a part of your swing and trying to control the ball on the field at the same time is the formula for a frozen worry. 
 

Got to choose one and commit. 

Correct.  You shouldn't worry to much.  Gradually the change will settle.  But there should be a conscious effort when playing to think about swinging the club.