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Looking for feedback on these two shafts if anyone has tested side by side. Spin, dispersion numbers etc 

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Callaway Tour Issue Paradym TD-S 8.5 (7.9) - Fujikura Ventus Black TR 5X

TaylorMade TOUR Stealth 2 15 - Fujikura Ventus Red TR 7X
PXG 0317X Gen 5 19  (Actual 17.5) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 8X
PXG 0311X Gen 5 -  Fujikura Ventus Blue 9X

PXG 0317T - 4 - LAGP L-Series (5) X
Miura KM-700  5-PW - LAGP L-Series (5) X
PXG Milled "Sugar Daddy 2 " 50,54,60 - DG TI S400
Scotty Cameron Holiday LTD (23}/ LAGP 135 (White)
 

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Not TB, but Kaili and Diamana B- still both MCA Diamana blue shafts like the TB though.  In fairways- without getting on a launch monitor- the ball flight characteristics seem very similar to me.  Kaili maybe slightly easier to coax left.  Feel wise- the Kaili/B have a lot more of it.  Neither feels bad at all, Ventus Red just feels a little less "active" if that makes sense.  I love them both, currently have the Ventus Reds in the bag though just because I like new stuff sometimes and the red looks sweet.  I could easily be convinced to put the Diamana B's back in the back though, especially if I started to lose stuff right.

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12 minutes ago, mcounci2 said:

Not TB, but Kaili and Diamana B- still both MCA Diamana blue shafts like the TB though.  In fairways- without getting on a launch monitor- the ball flight characteristics seem very similar to me.  Kaili maybe slightly easier to coax left.  Feel wise- the Kaili/B have a lot more of it.  Neither feels bad at all, Ventus Red just feels a little less "active" if that makes sense.  I love them both, currently have the Ventus Reds in the bag though just because I like new stuff sometimes and the red looks sweet.  I could easily be convinced to put the Diamana B's back in the back though, especially if I started to lose stuff right.

Interesting that you experience the Red as a "less active" blueboard. Overall profiles are similar, but the Ventus Red being softer in the butt, indicating it'll feel like a more active shaft with a "kick" than will the TB. Just goes to show it's different for everyone.

 

I play the TB in my driver and it's a very linear feel. It's definitely a blueboard, just tighter.

 

 

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Driver: Callaway Paradym 8* (draw, std) - GD ADXC 7x

3 wood: Taylormade SIM 15* - GD ADDI 7x

5 wood: Ping G30 18* - Diamana Blue 83x

Irons: 3-5 Taylormade 2014 TP MC (2* weak);  6-PW Taylormade 2014 TP MB (1* weak) - Project X 6.5

SW: Scratch 54* bent to 53* - Ctaper 130x

LW: Scratch 58* bent to 59* - Ctaper 130x

Putter: Modified Odyssey 7 w/ welded long slant

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1 minute ago, mcounci2 said:

I don't know if you can say it's softer in the handle without units or measurements on the axes.  Fujikura classifies the red handle as "ultra stiff," for what that's worth


I agree. I have a Red 9x and there’s no softness in the handle at all. I play the Black in my driver and hybrid, and the handle sections are very similar. There is definitely a pronounced mid kick with the Red though with a very stable tip section. 

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SIM2 Rescue 17* || Ventus Blue HB 8x

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23 minutes ago, mcounci2 said:

I don't know if you can say it's softer in the handle without units or measurements on the axes.  Fujikura classifies the red handle as "ultra stiff," for what that's worth

There are units there, it's just not labeled. The X axis is length along the shaft and the Y axis is the calculated stress value. If you want to read his methods (which are industry standard of measure) he has several articles under the "technical articles" dropdown here:

https://www.golfshaftreviews.info/technical-stuff/

 

 

 

Driver: Callaway Paradym 8* (draw, std) - GD ADXC 7x

3 wood: Taylormade SIM 15* - GD ADDI 7x

5 wood: Ping G30 18* - Diamana Blue 83x

Irons: 3-5 Taylormade 2014 TP MC (2* weak);  6-PW Taylormade 2014 TP MB (1* weak) - Project X 6.5

SW: Scratch 54* bent to 53* - Ctaper 130x

LW: Scratch 58* bent to 59* - Ctaper 130x

Putter: Modified Odyssey 7 w/ welded long slant

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I have the Diamana Blueboard 83 x5ct "S" and Whiteboard 83 x5ct "S" in my golf shaft cabinet, but I sold the Redboard.  I played Blueboard for a number of years in Titleist & SLDR TP heads. 

 

Since early 2020 been playing Ventus Red 5 (59g "S") Series in 9.5 TS2 Driver and 7 (71g "S") Series in TS2 16.5 wood, and a hitter the ball as opposed to swing the club, making the extra stiff handle, mid-section stiffness and tip stiffness very important to me hitting pretty drives, and seldom missing the fairway.  The only other shaft I have played that feels similar to V.Red is PX6C12 Tour Issue, except it's heavier at 66g. It has a very stiff handle, as well as mid-section and a stiff tip.

 

From my experience, the Diamana TB series specs are quite diverse, so much, so it does NOT compare to Ventus Red.  DBB and TB Bend profiles are different from Ventus Red's 5 Series Handle, mid & Tip section which feels stiffer.  I say that because I hit it VRed further with greater control than DBB.

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