Generation 3 P790 in 2021?

[sniper]

1 hour ago, Copacetic said:

I think these are sexy!  Can anyone comment on the feel?  I didn’t think the previous versions felt all that great. 

[mrmikeac]

Courtesy of zcarlson721 via IG 

[Copacetic]

Really need to see these in person, looked great in my press shot above, but last pic shiny section is very gaudy. Can’t believe they are everywhere but no proper announcement or videos as yet. 

[HateTheHighDraw]

13 hours ago, TRBLgolfer said:

Thanks for posting the photos.  Any data on peak height and spin vs prior generation?

In my fitting I was told they fly higher and spin slightly more than the prior generation. I have no data tho because I have not played the gen 2s 

[Copacetic]

18 minutes ago, HateTheHighDraw said:

In my fitting I was told they fly higher and spin slightly more than the prior generation. I have no data tho because I have not played the gen 2s 

That’s interesting, I’m going to order the 4 and 5, 1 and 2 weak as per their spec for blending into the p770, but if they are flying higher and spinning more that might not be ideal. My current p790 gen 2 5 iron, flies 187 and lands softly. If the new ones fly higher AND spin more then I’ll be carrying it 180 and spinning it back if I get it 2 degrees weak also. 
 

I presume it flies the same, but spin brings up flight a bit?

[HateTheHighDraw]

1 hour ago, Copacetic said:

That’s interesting, I’m going to order the 4 and 5, 1 and 2 weak as per their spec for blending into the p770, but if they are flying higher and spinning more that might not be ideal. My current p790 gen 2 5 iron, flies 187 and lands softly. If the new ones fly higher AND spin more then I’ll be carrying it 180 and spinning it back if I get it 2 degrees weak also. 
 

I presume it flies the same, but spin brings up flight a bit?

I should have been more specific - descent angle is steeper than previous gen. Not sure about launch 

[Copacetic]

[ASN21]

New speedfoam interesting. 

[Cash73]

They are live on TM Japan, so shouldn’t be long now!

 

https://www.taylormadegolf.jp/taylormade-irons/New-P790-('21)-アイアン/DW-JJC69.html?lang=ja_JP&cgid=taylormade-irons#lang=ja_JP&start=1&

Edited August 6, 2021 by Cash73

[BirdieBob]

It appears TM has found the new high strength and more flexible face does not need a more dense, supportive speedfoam.  Hence the the less dense speedfoam AIR which has the main purpose of dampening the soundwaves inside the head.

 

Bottom line, more flex in the face yields a softer feel while the less dense speedfoam reduces sound vibrations sufficiently.

 

Tungsten in the lower toe of the 3 - 7 irons and none in the 8 - P helps with higher launch in the long/mid irons but helps keep the short irons lower.

 

[bhartm2]

This sounds like they're trending towards the design of the Mizuno MP20 HMBs.  Those were truly hollow, right? Kinda like taking the less dense speed foam to the extreme.  And they also lost the chromoly face once you got down to the 8 iron.

[JDIL]

https://lesson.golfdigest.co.jp/gear/catalogue/iron/gca000013972601.html

 

Bad translation with Google, but it says the speadfoam air is 69% lighter. With the reduction, in the 7 iron for example, the tungsten went from 14g to 31g. Which is a lot. That's going to help launch I would think. Face is the thinnest they have used.

 

EDIT: Oops, it's just parroting the info from the TM JP link above. 😄

Edited August 6, 2021 by JDIL

[Copacetic]

It’s all interesting enough, seems like much more changes than predicted, certainly not cosmetic only. Thinner faceplate, new lighter foam cone, double the tungsten in 7 irons. Surprised the lofts haven’t changed. 

[Valtiel]

8 hours ago, mrmikeac said:

Courtesy of zcarlson721 via IG 

Pretty sleek looking head, they sure haven't disappointed in the cosmetics anyway. 

[QuigleyDU]

2 hours ago, BirdieBob said:

It appears TM has found the new high strength and more flexible face does not need a more dense, supportive speedfoam.  Hence the the less dense speedfoam AIR which has the main purpose of dampening the soundwaves inside the head.

 

Bottom line, more flex in the face yields a softer feel while the less dense speedfoam reduces sound vibrations sufficiently.

 

Tungsten in the lower toe of the 3 - 7 irons and none in the 8 - P helps with higher launch in the long/mid irons but helps keep the short irons lower.

 

These are still very clicky.. I think even more so than previous gen 790s.

 

 

 

[HateTheHighDraw]

10 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

These are still very clicky.. I think even more so than previous gen 790s.

 

 

 

I did not find them clicky at all at my fitting, they felt soft and powerful and relatively quiet at impact 

[Seidinho]

P790 and Apex are for sure clicky when compared to a fully forged head. But doesn’t matter one bit out on the course. 

[mrmikeac]

2 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

These are still very clicky.. I think even more so than previous gen 790s.

 

 

 

I’m hearing they feel and sound more like the 790Ti’s 

[QuigleyDU]

24 minutes ago, mrmikeac said:

I’m hearing they feel and sound more like the 790Ti’s 

Not that extreme. But to my ear and feel more clicky and firm.

[Genostarrr]

Just tried them out today at our local shop. I play the zx7s, which in comparison these felt clicky. Reminded me somewhat of the new P770s. However, I gotta admit, hit the stock iron with the dg 105s (which I know is not for me) and I was cooking these maybe 10 yds longer than the previous version. Like others have said, they def fly higher and spin more, but the ball speed made up for it. Honestly, I wouldn’t get these as of right now bc I would have to re-gap my entire bag with these going further, but I do suggest them if you’re looking for a distance iron that looks more playerish. After playing mizzies and srixons the past few years, feel doesn’t compare…

[Morry]

This new foam and tungsten sounds very exciting 

Just hope they aren't as harsh and clicky as the p770's were....came from 760's and was disappointed beyond with them 

fingers crossed they are quieter and a bit softer 

770 felt like a small shovel to me 

 

[Copacetic]

Gradual drip drip of more comparisons and details. 

[Clemsongolfer8]

That’s a thick top line on these new 790s. 

[Lefty87]

58 minutes ago, Copacetic said:

Gradual drip drip of more comparisons and details. 

New Epic irons from Callaway? Haven’t seen or heard anything about those. 

[Copacetic]

17 minutes ago, Lefty87 said:

New Epic irons from Callaway? Haven’t seen or heard anything about those. 

Presumed they were some Japan only version 

[BirdieBob]

14 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

These are still very clicky.. I think even more so than previous gen 790s.

 

 

 

 

 

Is it the lighting...I thought the word "Tungsten" was written under the area of P790...just can't see it in this pic?   This is a 7 iron?   8 - P do not have tungsten.

 

I don't notice the word Tungsten on these either...must be the lighting

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by BirdieBob

[jwb10]

what in the name of all that is holy is "clicky" ? Seriously , what a sound ? As one of my pals says "u r not good enough to know that"

[Copacetic]

7 minutes ago, jwb10 said:

what in the name of all that is holy is "clicky" ? Seriously , what a sound ? As one of my pals says "u r not good enough to know that"

It is a noise really. A fair few blind tests have shown that it’s mostly what people hear that determines if they feel a club is ‘solid’ ‘soft’ etc. changing balls for instance changes  what ‘feels’ like a harsh clicky iron to a great feeling one for a lot of people. It’s why you get such a variation of what people think irons sound or play like. They hear them differently. 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Copacetic

[sniper]

50 minutes ago, Copacetic said:

It is a noise really. A fair few blind tests have shown that it’s mostly what people hear that determines if they feel a club is ‘solid’ ‘soft’ etc. changing balls for instance changes  what ‘feels’ like a harsh clicky iron to a great feeling one for a lot of people. It’s why you get such a variation of what people think irons sound or play like. They hear them differently. 

I’d agree with this especially the ball. If I go to a big box store I don’t even look at numbers and don’t pay much attention to feel because the golf balls are rocks.  Why don’t these places put some better balls out. 

[Clemsongolfer8]

5 minutes ago, sniper said:

I’d agree with this especially the ball. If I go to a big box store I don’t even look at numbers and don’t pay much attention to feel because the golf balls are rocks.  Why don’t these places put some better balls out. 

Cause they want you to do a fitting