Mizuno ST-G 220

[My2Dogs]

8 hours ago, Traviataman said:

OK, we're 8 days into October.

When can I view / test this?

 

Just to be clear: the ONLY stamped loft available will be 9* and any higher / lower adjustments are up to you?

 Thought I read Oct 12th was the release date. 

[m_w]

 

[Traviataman]

From what I'm seeing on TV news, there are probably thousands of them sitting on a container ship somewhere outside the port of LA!🤬

[dennisdaniels99]

I got mine on Sunday!  This thing is a low spin rocket!  I played 9 holes with it Sunday afternoon and there was about a one club wind in my face, and I hit the longest drive I've ever hit on this one particular hole at my club.  Mishits were not near as punishing as I'd thought they'd be!  I can't wait to get this thing completely dialed in!

[getitdaily]

Hit it yesterday while waiting on a putter regrip. Hit it with a motore x f3 6s shaft. I play x flex shafts and the motore was a bit whippy for my liking.

 

But the stg head certainly performed. I didn't trick around with weight configs. Weights were in the heel and toe slots, all the way back...neutral I guess. The driver does not lack for ballspeed. But it seems to be pretty fade biased. Nothing that setup changes can't fix. Will wait to see what TM releases next year, but I'll definitely test it more. It's a contender for those who prefer adjustability. 

 

I can already envision setting it up in higher lie, one notch closed, one weight center back and one weight back toe side. 

 

Face is super, super deep. May be off-putting for me, ultimately. 

[picardyThird]

 

[My2Dogs]

I’m seeing a lot of YouTube reviews from some bigger names who have tested this.  TXG just came out with theirs today.  Surprisingly I didn’t see any or very slight in overall distance compares to the ST-Z.  In fact it seems in one the TSi3 beat out the ST-G220.  In TXG’s you did see some flight and launch/spin differences but if you compare those to Ian’s current set up, he was longer with the Sim2.  Now he does say he is trying to not swing the same when that video was released compared to today but other videos have shown it’s not a big distance gainer.  More of a driver to help reduce spin or have moveable weights to change the flight of the shot.  If you struggle with spin, this could be the “one” but I wouldn’t expect anyone to gain 10-15 yards, unless your current driver doesn’t match your swing at all. 
 

still want to try it but I don’t know if this will “White Whale” I originally thought. 

[Whatnogarnish]

Newton just posted a video and compared it to his TSI3. For him the ST-G was almost equal in distance. 
 

I have my TSI3 dialed in well and really like it, but I almost went with the ST-Z after my fitting last year, looking forward to trying this one. 

[Traviataman]

I saw it yesterday. Face really didn't look that deep to me.

TS1-3 deep maybe, but not M1 440 deep.

 

I'm 71 and 225 off the tee.

If I move both weights to the back and set the adaptor at the 10.25, 0.5* closed position can I handle this thing with a Diamana Red 50?

[m_w]

11 hours ago, Traviataman said:

I saw it yesterday. Face really didn't look that deep to me.

TS1-3 deep maybe, but not M1 440 deep.

 

I'm 71 and 225 off the tee.

If I move both weights to the back and set the adaptor at the 10.25, 0.5* closed position can I handle this thing with a Diamana Red 50?

 

I'm sure you could. I think the question is, if your goal is forgiveness and launch - why not go Ping G425Max/SFT. Just design wise, the ST-G will never be as forgiving as those of a Ping or Cleveland XL or even a TSi2.

 

If you are 225 off the tee, my worry with the ST-G would be spin consistency - you don't want to have a few over-performance only to then see 5 fall out of the sky

[Traviataman]

10 hours ago, m_w said:

 

I'm sure you could. I think the question is, if your goal is forgiveness and launch - why not go Ping G425Max/SFT. Just design wise, the ST-G will never be as forgiving as those of a Ping or Cleveland XL or even a TSi2.

 

If you are 225 off the tee, my worry with the ST-G would be spin consistency - you don't want to have a few over-performance only to then see 5 fall out of the sky

Thanks for the advice!

I think I'm gonna pass on the ST-G.

Any thoughts about the X and the Z?

[m_w]

55 minutes ago, Traviataman said:

Thanks for the advice!

I think I'm gonna pass on the ST-G.

Any thoughts about the X and the Z?

I’d definitely give the X a shot based on what you wrote

[Morry]

This is Very intriguing

 

deep face, very flat and huge adjustability

stuck on ts2 and nothing from Tm or callaway or ping has my attention like this one..

I fight a draw

 

 

[wcbjr]

Got my 220G this weekend.  Ordered from TGW on the 21st and was hitting it on the course on the 22nd.  9* (only loft made), HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0.  Comes in at 45" and D3/D4 swingweight.  Grip is a Lamkin ST Hybrid, of which I am not a fan.  It's a bit squishy.  I prefer a Golf Pride Tour Velvet.  Quick comparison against my 190G, and there is no comparison.  Lower spin, more forgiving all across the face, hotter off the face, and much better sound at impact.  More muted, gives a good thwack, reminds me of a Ping or Titleist.  I did notice a *very* slight whistle from the head during practice swings.  But you have to listen for it, no way you would notice during an actual swing.

 

Only bad thing is one of the weights decided to disappear on the 3rd hole.  I moved the toe weight over to the heel because I like a lot of draw bias.  The weight lasted through the entire practice session on the range, so not sure what happened.  Maybe a bad weight, maybe the track is malformed, or I can't turn a small torque wrench correctly like the 1000 times I've done in the past.  I have contacted TGW and Mizuno, hopefully one of them will send me a new weight.

 

To add, the weights from the 190G and the 220G are the same, so at least I can use one of those until a new one is sent out.

Edited October 24, 2021 by wcbjr

[SwingMan]

1 hour ago, wcbjr said:

Got my 220G this weekend.  Ordered from TGW on the 21st and was hitting it on the course on the 22nd.  9* (only loft made), HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0.  Comes in at 45" and D3/D4 swingweight.  Grip is a Lamkin ST Hybrid, of which I am not a fan.  It's a bit squishy.  I prefer a Golf Pride Tour Velvet.  Quick comparison against my 190G, and there is no comparison.  Lower spin, more forgiving all across the face, hotter off the face, and much better sound at impact.  More muted, gives a good thwack, reminds me of a Ping or Titleist.  I did notice a *very* slight whistle from the head during practice swings.  But you have to listen for it, no way you would notice during an actual swing.

 

Only bad thing is one of the weights decided to disappear on the 3rd hole.  I moved the toe weight over to the heel because I like a lot of draw bias.  The weight lasted through the entire practice session on the range, so not sure what happened.  Maybe a bad weight, maybe the track is malformed, or I can't turn a small torque wrench correctly like the 1000 times I've done in the past.  I have contacted TGW and Mizuno, hopefully one of them will send me a new weight.

 

To add, the weights from the 190G and the 220G are the same, so at least I can use one of those until a new one is sent out.

 

I make the weight click twice.... but things happen.

 

Probably more Titleist than Ping - the 425 in comparison, is not in the G220 league in sound. The Ping head also doesn't feel as if it goes through the air while swinging as easily as Callaway or the Mizuno, for example.

[SwingMan]

But remember, this is a low spin driver, only offered in 9 degrees. I would get fit for shaft. Some may want a lighter weight, more mid kick instead of high kick, and some may opt for a higher launching, softer tip for more spin. Or if you hit down on driver and have too much spin, this is probably your ticket.

[JourdanM]

4 hours ago, SwingMan said:

 

I make the weight click twice.... but things happen.

 

Probably more Titleist than Ping - the 425 in comparison, is not in the G220 league in sound. The Ping head also doesn't feel as if it goes through the air while swinging as easily as Callaway or the Mizuno, for example.

If it's a 410/ tsi2 or 3 feel, I'm ordering tomorrow haha 

[wcbjr]

TGW customer service has been great, even on a weekend.  Hopefully Mizuno will get a weight sent out soon.

[wcbjr]

Mizuno is sending a new weight out, so that's good.  However...I borrowed a weight from my 190 and almost lost it as well.  It started sliding off the same track after a few swing on the range.  Seems the track is too thin or malformed and the weight can't clamp down.  Might need to send it back.

[youngwaldo]

On 10/24/2021 at 9:23 AM, wcbjr said:

Got my 220G this weekend.  Ordered from TGW on the 21st and was hitting it on the course on the 22nd.  9* (only loft made), HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 6.0.  Comes in at 45" and D3/D4 swingweight.  Grip is a Lamkin ST Hybrid, of which I am not a fan.  It's a bit squishy.  I prefer a Golf Pride Tour Velvet.  Quick comparison against my 190G, and there is no comparison.  Lower spin, more forgiving all across the face, hotter off the face, and much better sound at impact.  More muted, gives a good thwack, reminds me of a Ping or Titleist.  I did notice a *very* slight whistle from the head during practice swings.  But you have to listen for it, no way you would notice during an actual swing.

 

Only bad thing is one of the weights decided to disappear on the 3rd hole.  I moved the toe weight over to the heel because I like a lot of draw bias.  The weight lasted through the entire practice session on the range, so not sure what happened.  Maybe a bad weight, maybe the track is malformed, or I can't turn a small torque wrench correctly like the 1000 times I've done in the past.  I have contacted TGW and Mizuno, hopefully one of them will send me a new weight.

 

To add, the weights from the 190G and the 220G are the same, so at least I can use one of those until a new one is sent out.

Loving Mine.

 

Wk

[wcbjr]

Mizuno sent a replacement weight, so that's nice.  Although their shipping might need some optimization.  The only thing inside the package was the weight inside a plastic baggie.  It was shipped in a 4"x6"x8" box with no padding.  Just a loose weight in a box.  Lol.

 

Still not going to be using that half of the weight track which is annoying.  

Edited November 5, 2021 by wcbjr

[getitdaily]

9 hours ago, wcbjr said:

Mizuno sent a replacement weight, so that's nice.  Although their shipping might need some optimization.  The only thing inside the package was the weight inside a plastic baggie.  It was shipped in a 4"x6"x8" box with no padding.  Just a loose weight in a box.  Lol.

 

Still not going to be using that half of the weight track which is annoying.  

Oh I'd slap that weight right back to the spot the other one failed to see if the head needs to be replaced...

[regiwstruk]

After going through drivers like Spinal Tap goes through “drummahs”…the ST220-G is my 2022 winner. Just in the past two years…I’ve had Mizuno ST190, ST200-G, Ping G425 Max, Tour Edge C721, Titleist TS3, TSi2, and Cobra F9/SZ. Not proud but it’s not my fault one of the big brands has a 90-day playability thing; a ho’s paradise.

 

Mizuno figured out how to get rid of the ST200-G “whistle” and the ST220-G makes a great sound through impact now. Super fun to play with the weights and figure out what you like best. I settled on one in the back and one in the draw-middle to get what I wanted - the ability to go left hard through impact and not worry about a snap. Might tinker with the shaft if I can find something decent out there but for now the HZRDUS 6.5 with the light blue is pretty good. And the crown is a beaut, Clark. Shiny carbon in the sun with the bird pointing towards that fairway landing. 

 

“Mizuno 220-G…great droivah”

Edited March 20, 2022 by regiwstruk

[Nard_S]

Have a head, need to pick a shaft, it's a pretty driver. Great lines to it and deep faced. Love the adjustability,

 

Edit#1: just ordered more weights too. 

 

Edit #2: just ordered new AV Raw Orange 75X at great fleabay price & 2 adaptors.

Edited March 20, 2022 by Nard_S

[nilopol]

anyone hit this G vs even St-Z or X that have normally a negative angle of attack? 

[jetmech879]

44 minutes ago, nilopol said:

anyone hit this G vs even St-Z or X that have normally a negative angle of attack? 

I’m not at negative anymore but close to neutral. I have had the 220 g since release and tried a 220 z for a few rounds to compare. I definitely spun the z more. No launch monitor to back up my experience but the G was longer and a better flight. I play one weight back center and one back toe on the G and it’s been a bomber for me. I have a cobra LTDx LS inbound with the same Ventus tr shaft to try but I really doubt it will dethrone the Mizuno. The STg 220 is a absolute bomber and forgiving! 

[jvincent]

1 hour ago, nilopol said:

anyone hit this G vs even St-Z or X that have normally a negative angle of attack? 

 

I'm not usually negative but generally pretty level AoA.

 

I'm playing the G with both weights up front. Really liking it so far this season. The Z-220 is also quite good but just a little bit more spin overall.

[nilopol]

12 hours ago, jetmech879 said:

I’m not at negative anymore but close to neutral. I have had the 220 g since release and tried a 220 z for a few rounds to compare. I definitely spun the z more. No launch monitor to back up my experience but the G was longer and a better flight. I play one weight back center and one back toe on the G and it’s been a bomber for me. I have a cobra LTDx LS inbound with the same Ventus tr shaft to try but I really doubt it will dethrone the Mizuno. The STg 220 is a absolute bomber and forgiving! 

Any other brands/drivers you compared to?

[nilopol]

12 hours ago, jvincent said:

 

I'm not usually negative but generally pretty level AoA.

 

I'm playing the G with both weights up front. Really liking it so far this season. The Z-220 is also quite good but just a little bit more spin overall.

Did you compare to others with any significant differences? 

[uglande]

I've been switching off between the STG (9 degree) and the Titleist TSi3 (8 degree). Both spin about the same -- maybe a fraction lower with the STG. I love the feel of the STG when struck in the middle. But strikes high on the face are harsh. Overall ball flight is RIGHT. I like this because I like to play a fade, and even with the weights in a more draw-biased setup, the flight want to go more left to right than with the Titleist. Also, launch is slightly lower. 

 

The differences between the STG and the original STZ are about the same as above but even larger. More spin and launch with the STZ and more neutral flight, but for me the STG goes farther and has the light I prefer. I would definitely shy away from the STG if you generally miss right. 

Edited May 12, 2022 by uglande