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Help me understand the difference between HZRDUS and Evenflow and "tempo fitting"


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True Temper says HZRDUS is for aggressive swingers and Evenflow is for smoother tempos. 

 

From a technical standpoint, how are these built differently to achieve those target fits? 

 

Secondly, do you agree with TT's marketing angle on these shafts or have your fitting results been different from expectations? 

 

 

 

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TM BRNR Mini 13.5

Callaway Rogue Max D 3 wood

Paradym 4 hybrid

Srixon ZX5 / ZX7 on MMT 125S

Srixon Z785 AW

Cleveland RTX6 54/58

Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 11S

 

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I think one key metric is balance point.  Higher balance point (some call it "counter balance") plays well with smoother tempos and transitions.  The lower balance points are more aggressive swings.

I think the Evenflow as a line have higher BPs than the HZRDUS line.

 

However, within the HZRDUS line, the green and yellow are noted to have higher balance points.  I'm playing the Yellow 6.0 in my Tour Edge driver and FW.  I like them both and am not an aggressive swinger.

 

 

 

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In my personal experience, their descriptions hold true. I have a pretty smooth swing, and I can’t load the Hzrdus shafts at all, especially the black. It’s a straight push or dead pull. 
 

I’ve gotten along a lot better with the Evenflow shafts when trying out clubs. 

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Driver: 10.5* Stealth 2 Plus set 1 click lower upright setting- Accra FX 2.0 270 M4 

Fairways & Hybrids: TM Stealth2 Plus 5 wood turned down to 17* (AV Raw White 75s); 21* Callaway UW (Tour AD TP 8s); 
Irons: Srixon MKII ZX5 4 Iron (Recoil Utility 110 F4), 5-PW Srixon ZX7 (DG AMT White s300)
Wedges: Tour Satin Cleveland RTX6 48* Mid bent to 49* and 52* bent to 54*;  RTX Zipcore Tour Rack Raw 56* Mid bent to 58* (All wedges with DGTI s400 shafts)

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2 hours ago, me05501 said:

True Temper says HZRDUS is for aggressive swingers and Evenflow is for smoother tempos. 

 

From a technical standpoint, how are these built differently to achieve those target fits? 

 

Secondly, do you agree with TT's marketing angle on these shafts or have your fitting results been different from expectations?

 

Aggressive transitions load the shaft more (and faster) than smoother transitions so in general stiffer shafts tend to feel better for the aggressive players.   But there is no ideal amount of loading nor is there any one concept of what a good feel is for the player - it's all really very subjective.   You can have aggressive players that want/need to feel more loading or smooth transition players that want to feel less.   That makes it a very rough generalization at best.  There will always be plenty of exceptions so you should never treat that (or any other shaft marketing 'advice') as anything more than maybe a reason to demo the shaft.  They should never be used to make a purchase decisions or treated as any kind of hard and fast rule one must follow.

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I use evenflow white in my driver and hzrdus yellow in my 3 wood. Both at 6.5 flex and get on fine with them both.

 

Had a 2 iron with hzrdus black in 6.5 and couldn't get on with it at all as I felt it was too stiff for me to get anything out of it. Also had an evenflow in the green/blue colour in 6.5 in a hybrid and couldn't get on with that either.

 

Just depends on how you get on with the shaft and what feels best to you. 

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8 hours ago, me05501 said:

 

Secondly, do you agree with TT's marketing angle on these shafts or have your fitting results been different from expectations? 

As someone who is aggressive in transition the hzrdus feels better and has worked better than the evenflow line for me.

 

PX designed the original hzrdus line of performance and didn’t take into account feel. When they designed the evenflow line they wanted the performance factor to be maintained but accounted for the feel aspect. This is directly from Don Brown at PX 

 

 

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I tend to agree with their assessment of the two lines. I’m more of an aggressive swinger and get along very well with the Hzrdus line, but for the life of me can’t hit the Evenflow line at all. 

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Driver:  MIZUNO ST-G 440 (9.5d) - Lin-Q Red 60s

Fwy:  MIZUNO ST-G Titanium 3w (15) - Lin-Q Red 60s

Fwy:  COBRA F6 Baffler (19) - Hzrdus Red 75/6.0
Hybrid:  COBRA F7 Hybrid (22) - Tour Blue 85s

Iron:  MIZUNO Pro 245 (5 - G) - Recoil Proto 125 F4
Wedge:  MIZUNO T24 Denim Copper (54/10) - Recoil Wedge Proto F4     
Wedge:  TAYLORMADE Hi-Toe Copper (60/10) - Recoil Wedge Proto F4

Putter:  LAJOSI DD201 Copper Flow or MANNKRAFTED MA-55 Flow
Bag:  BENNINGTON LQO-9 Stand Bag or Ogio Silencer Cart

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