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I see he switched to an armlock.. wonder if Wunder can shine some light here. Not a good sign in my mind.. He could potentially end up like Adam Scott. Beautiful swing but cant ever win because he sucks at putting. 

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Xander does NOT suck at putting. He is ranked 9th in strokes gained putting right now and has historically been one of the better putters on tour for several years.

I am kind of tired of the "the game is changing so lets ban it".. It is dumb.. I have tried armlock. To me it is not easier.. It is super uncomfortable and hard. No thank you.   Now back to

It's 100% a wristlock grip.

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Saw that.  Xander is one of those guys who will win here and there and have a very consistent career but he's never going to multiple majors or go on a big run. 

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Just looking for something different I'd expect.

 

I keep wondering if they're going to try to ban the arm lock as more and more guys go to it...  Get rid of it if they want, just leave my side saddle alone.  

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3 minutes ago, PBrowne3 said:

Xander does NOT suck at putting. He is ranked 9th in strokes gained putting right now and has historically been one of the better putters on tour for several years.

One thing that strokes gained doesn’t measure though , is putts made when it matters most. As in under the gun.  I suspect that stability under pressure is his goal.  Dont know if it’s a reachable thing though with equipment change since most of that is between the ears.
If you can hit your intended line , then its becomes a green reading exercise.  If you can read it correctly , then hit the line , all that’s left is speed. And that partially goes with reading it as there’s alwasy 2-3lines that will go in with different speed.  I suspect he’s like anyone else , and trust issues are the problem.  That and accepting that they all won’t fall.  No matter what.  Armlock won’t help a guy who’s already hitting his line without a yip.  I know. I’ve tried it thrice.  

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Yea. That’s not a huge departure from how he already putted.  

 

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Interesting. I've heard mixed reviews on that Superstroke armlock putter grip. I've wanted to try it but didn't want to mess with the loft of the putter to compensate. Another issue is that I putt left-hand low, and I wondered if that would be a problem with locking the longer grip. But Xander definitely found a way to make that work.

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I like his setup for sure. What SS grip is that?

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11 minutes ago, jcvandamme said:

Interesting. I've heard mixed reviews on that Superstroke armlock putter grip. I've wanted to try it but didn't want to mess with the loft of the putter to compensate. Another issue is that I putt left-hand low, and I wondered if that would be a problem with locking the longer grip. But Xander definitely found a way to make that work.

I putt traditional but the wrist lock felt better left hand low to me, so it’s worth trying

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43 minutes ago, OspreyCI said:

I like his setup for sure. What SS grip is that?

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It is just strange that there really isnt any young gun that is a great putter. Rahm seems to be the best but is not awesome. The rest are all top notch ball strikers but a bit balky on the green. 

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Saw that.  Xander is one of those guys who will win here and there and have a very consistent career but he's never going to multiple majors or go on a big run. 

He seems like another version of Tony Finau. Always a favorite, always in the mix, lots of top tens but does not seem to close the deal.. 

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52 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

It is just strange that there really isnt any young gun that is a great putter. Rahm seems to be the best but is not awesome. The rest are all top notch ball strikers but a bit balky on the green. 

Big grips , and mallets.  Kills feel. Putting is all feel. 
 

disclaimer **** this is my opinion 😂***
 

Fowler Reed Spieth - all feel putters.  Most consider them great putters.  Although Rick has to work to erase his poor putting recently with that mallet.  
 

kevin Na is another excellent putter.  And there are exceptions like Kisner .... but it’s rare. 

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2 hours ago, bladehunter said:

Yea. That’s not a huge departure from how he already putted.  

Agreed, I believe he already gripped down a few inches on the old SS grip. Seems they just extended the shaft by 2" and then threw the WristLock grip on there.

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I've messed around with an old Odyssey #1 belly putter that was bent to be an armlock, it just seems a bit strange to me to do it left hand low, my left wrist really bows out due to the shaft angle, but that is how I've been putting now for a few years.   It's weird, a regular right hand low on a standard putter feels strange to me now, but with an armlock, feels OK. 

 

I play now and then with a guy who putts left hand low, and last week he showed up with an anrmlock, he putted lights out over the weekend LHL and armlock....  and he did it with two different putters, first day was a Bettinardi and the next round was a Scotty Cameron custom. 

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I will say the grip he is using makes sense to me for this method. Fill the gap so that you can hold it with less tension in your hands and wrist. You also do not need to have the loft adjusted so much.

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47 minutes ago, QuigleyDU said:

I will say the grip he is using makes sense to me for this method. Fill the gap so that you can hold it with less tension in your hands and wrist. You also do need to have the loft adjusted so much.

I think you mean you DON’t need to adjust loft so much. This putter looks longer than what he was using in April, but not by a lot. Someone above said 2 inches longer and that looks about right. I do think this particular grip works well for an armlock style with a left hand low or prayer grip style. Here is Xander two months ago...

 

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28 minutes ago, dmeeksDC said:

I think you mean you DON’t need to adjust loft so much. This putter looks longer than what he was using in April, but not by a lot. Someone above said 2 inches longer and that looks about right. I do think this particular grip works well for an armlock style with a left hand low or prayer grip style. Here is Xander two months ago...

 

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You are correct. Yes, that grip looks like it allows for a bit more natural set up. 

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12 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

I see he switched to an armlock.. wonder if Wunder can shine some light here. Not a good sign in my mind.. He could potentially end up like Adam Scott. Beautiful swing but cant ever win because he sucks at putting. 

 Xander doesn't suck at putting!
He has a very specific fault that he and I share when we lack confidence.
He stands over a putt way to long before finally pulling the trigger.
I believe he has too much going on between the ears just before making his stroke.

Just my 2cents with experience.

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12 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

I see he switched to an armlock.. wonder if Wunder can shine some light here. Not a good sign in my mind.. He could potentially end up like Adam Scott. Beautiful swing but cant ever win because he sucks at putting. 

He does not suck at putting where did you get this? His chipping is average and he leaves himself with way too many 7-10 foot par putts. 

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11 hours ago, PBrowne3 said:

Xander does NOT suck at putting. He is ranked 9th in strokes gained putting right now and has historically been one of the better putters on tour for several years.

 

3 minutes ago, RedWings1 said:

 Xander doesn't suck at putting!
He has a very specific fault that he and I share when we lack confidence.
He stands over a putt way to long before finally pulling the trigger.
I believe he has too much going on between the ears just before making his stroke.

Just my 2cents with experience.


Per the recent interview with him, his weakness tends to be around the greens/chipping which results in a lot more 7-10 footers than he should be having (by his standards). If those become a little balky under pressure, like @bladehunter said, then this could be an effort to help with that. 

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11 hours ago, PBrowne3 said:

Xander does NOT suck at putting. He is ranked 9th in strokes gained putting right now and has historically been one of the better putters on tour for several years.

He’s definitely one of the best putters on tour.. anyone that thinks he sucks at putting hasn’t watched his stroke much

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5 hours ago, QuigleyDU said:

You are correct. Yes, that grip looks like it allows for a bit more natural set up. 

 

It really does. I have one on my 2 ball putter and after I extended my shaft by 5", I only needed to adjust the headweight on the putter. The putter is standard loft and lie, and rolls the ball beautifully. The huge pistol grip out the side of this grip really allows for a neutral shaft lean setup.

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