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Haha, there should be. Cobra has some recent "5-6" woods, and there are a some wooden 6Ws out there.  Though with loft adjustable adapters and no real standards, 19° can be 5W or 7W today.  Glued 19.75° could be a nice 6W!  No even number love after 4W.... Golf is an odd game 🙄.

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7 minutes ago, animalgolfs said:

Then my G400 7wd set in the small minus[19.5*]- playing at 41.5" is your ticket

Actually just built that exact club up for a friend.  I just can't really get over the open face at address.  I should be able to get over it, but I can't get the "don't push it" thought out of my head the entire time and usually end up hooking it straight left. I guess my mental toughness game isn't up to par lol

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1 hour ago, joostin said:

Haha, there should be. Cobra has some recent "5-6" woods, and there are a some wooden 6Ws out there.  Though with loft adjustable adapters and no real standards, 19° can be 5W or 7W today.  Glued 19.75° could be a nice 6W!  No even number love after 4W.... Golf is an odd game 🙄.

 

Exactly ... the loft of 7 wood is just confusing sometimes.

With adjustable hosel, pretty much all the 5 wood can turn to 6 wood though

 

Cobra calls their 5 wood 5-6 wood with loft from 17-20* up until F9 release. 

 

  

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Why not turn a 5 wood weaker or a 7 wood stronger? 

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This just furthers my notion of getting ride of club numbers all together. You have woods, hybrids, and irons. Just give it a loft and be done with it. 

 

Rather than a "high loft 3 wood" you have a "16* wood". 

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I like even numbered fairways. None of  this 3-4 for me. I want that club to know exactly what it is, lol.

 

No company has the same adjustability, so having 2 different manufacturers adjustables don't offer the same ranges leading to inflexible options if I, for instance don't get along with their 5 or 7.

 

Just give me a fixed hosel option at 4 and 6 already. 
 

I have too many wrenches and too little time, dammit.

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5 hours ago, benclab said:

Why not turn a 5 wood weaker or a 7 wood stronger? 

 

image.png.0a348f5c9504a6474d20f20d93cf8bd7.png Fifty years ago boutique club makers produced trouble clubs such as the Ginty. These had higher-lofted  heads with rails and rudders to help the club pass through the rough and pop the ball out. (Back in the late 1800s, the hickory stick era developed the bulldog, a very small headed wood that looks a lot like a modern hybrid).

 

Post World War II, many of the better club golfers carried 1, 2, 3 wood sets - this includes President John F. Kennedy. Some added the 4 wood. You get into the 1960s, and many everyday golfers carried the 1, 3, 4 wood. (Some older golfers still carried a 2W, know as a brassie, instead of a driver).

 

 

 

Some higher handicap players would get a boutique 9W or 11W to help get the ball out of the rough. I know brassie and 9W info from time as a caddie circa 1965-1971.

 

In the 1990s, trouble clubs arrived from more mainstream companies. Adams had the Tight Lies, and then Ping and Callaway joined in with an array of standardized fairway wood models, included very high-lofted versions. All three companies started in the 1960s or later. 

 

Basically, the manufacturers preferred to go with odd-numbered fairway woods. Below is a sampling of different fairway wood models from Ping and Callaway to illustrate this point.

 

The 4W, simply preferred by many golfers over the 3W, held its own. Things like a 6W simply fell by the wayside - too much marketing clutter.

 

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Most clubs are adjustable 1.5-2 degrees in both directions now. There really doesn't need to be any 6 woods, you can just loft up a 5 wood.

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Yep, this is why adjustable heads are even more useful for fairways and hybrids than drivers.

 

if you want a ‘6 wood’ lofted fairway (ie 19.5) you can loft up a 5 wood and have it play with a slightly closed face. Which is good for those who miss right.

 

Or you can loft down a 7 wood which opens the face. Good for those who miss left.

 

My big beef with fairways around this loft is that shafts are too long.

 

But that’s another can of worms.

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11 hours ago, MtlJeff said:

Most clubs are adjustable 1.5-2 degrees in both directions now. There really doesn't need to be any 6 woods, you can just loft up a 5 wood.


Exactly. The standard 3-5-7 can become 2-4-6, 4-6/7-9, and little bits between. Adjustable weights mean you can also change the head weight to suit the loft change as well. No sense in making a whole 'nother club when it already exists in the aggregate. 

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24 minutes ago, Valtiel said:

Adjustable weights mean you can also change the head weight to suit the loft change as well. No sense in making a whole 'nother club when it already exists in the aggregate. 

Explain to me adjusting head wait for loft adjustments. I typically just adjust head wait for fine tuning swing weight with length/grip/shaft modifications.

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