The USA Ryder Cup team could be a train wreck

[farmer]

All of these guys need to be practicing foursomes.  Solheim Cup and the Ryder Cup, we always get blistered in foursomes.

[Titleist99]

49 minutes ago, munichop said:

The US will try to make it a bomb and gouge birdie fest. The Euros put more emphasis on hitting the fairway first then worry about always making par before making birdie when they control the setup.  But Na and Kisner and Reed can really annoy opponents in match play because they never quit and always seem to punch above their weight so to speak.  
Also, DJ and BK would rather go boating than play in these things.

all that being said if the US blows this one it will really sting. Which is what I expect to happen….

Agree 100%......Euros keep the ball in play off the tee and get the ball to the hole on the greens. US play like it's a stroke play tournament instead of match play.

[JK Ward]

6 minutes ago, WannabePaperTiger said:

Didn’t Webb get jumped by Scottie? 

He was above Scottie in the rankings. IMO, Na should have been picked, probably leaving English the odd man out. 

[ChrisL52188]

Who will be the best partner for Bryson? 

[Mike_C]

9 minutes ago, Titleist99 said:

Agree 100%......Euros keep the ball in play off the tee and get the ball to the hole on the greens. US play like it's a stroke play tournament instead of match play.

I always like the guys with good short games and who can putt in match play.   Nothing like outdriving your opponent by 50 yards, then seeing him hit it to 15 feet and drain the birdie putt first, it wears on you.....

[MUNIGRIT]

This whole Na and Kiz hysteria was never even close to a reality. 

[Titleist99]

3 minutes ago, Mike_C said:

I always like the guys with good short games and who can putt in match play.   Nothing like outdriving your opponent by 50 yards, then seeing him hit it to 15 feet and drain the birdie putt first, it wears on you.....

It just amazes me how during the RC the US looks wooden and the Euros play loose and look like Ben Crenshaw on the greens.....By the way we recently saw Cantley do exactly what you're saying while playing against a couple of longer hitters.

[capking]

2 hours ago, PHILsThemannnn said:

JT's starting to play well again. He's got 2 top 5's in the last 3 tournaments. Tee-to-green he's been one of the best players this year, Top 10 in the following categories- SG: Approach and SG: Tee to Green. He's also top 10 in Eagles/Birdies made. If he putts well he'll be unbeatable at the RC.

Well with these captains picks looks like I’m cheering for the Euro’s haha no Kiz or Reed

[elwhippy]

I feel sorry for Na. He would be a real fighter and add something to the team. Makes no difference...Europe will win again.

[khalespace]

16 minutes ago, MUNIGRIT said:

This whole Na and Kiz hysteria was never even close to a reality. 

Na finished #3 in the FedEx cup. I think that is a great achievement. 

[VNutz]

32 minutes ago, WannabePaperTiger said:

And how many winning years have we had since capts pick was adopted?  

You could also say the Euro team has enjoyed great success since adopting captains picks in 1985. Since then one side has done considerably better than the other.

 

Over the years in general I don't think it has as much to do with captain's picks but rather that the Euro teams have simply performed better, despite perhaps being seen or ranked as inferior. But I'd still prefer they have some control over the back half of the team to better account for better players that had an off season or injuries.

 

 

[Krt22]

21 minutes ago, MUNIGRIT said:

This whole Na and Kiz hysteria was never even close to a reality. 

Given Na's showing at the tour championship and he's only 3 back from Scottie in OWGR, it was not a huge stretch to see him get the final pick. The rest were pretty much by ranking sans Reed's omission since he's not 100%. Kis was def more of a pipe dream

Edited September 8, 2021 by Krt22

[capking]

Just now, Krt22 said:

Given Na's showing at the tour championship and he's only 3 back from Scottie in OWGR, it was not a huge stretch to see him get the final pick. The rest were pretty much by ranking sans Reed's omission since he's not 100%. Kis was def more of a pipe dream

Is that why Stricker said he didn’t pick him? Reed not being 100% 

[toypor]

4 minutes ago, khalespace said:

Na finished #3 in the FedEx cup. I think that is a great achievement. 

That just goes to show how contrived, manufactured, and worthless the FedEx Cup is….
 

This is not a knock on Na by any means…. 

[munichop]

years ago when I had my fewest bogies per round I looked up the stats for PGA guys to see how I compared.  You actually have to look at a couple stats because the tour doesn't show you those directly.  This was before all the stroked gained approach.  Anyway, the only guy I could find who was better than me that year was Na.  He saved par from everywhere.  I think SS missed a chance with him.  BTW, if Poulter was American no one would know  who he is because he would never have been in the RC.  But Europe always made sure he was there to put the dagger in the US hopes. Sometime I feel like the US captains hurt themselves because most of the stats are stroke play.  But match play is a different game which we all get to witness every 2 years when the US gets beat with a "favored" team...

Edited September 8, 2021 by munichop

[Holy Moses]

Reed isn’t on the team. A huge win for the US. 

[bladehunter]

25 minutes ago, capking said:

Well with these captains picks looks like I’m cheering for the Euro’s haha no Kiz or Reed

Yep. Lol.  Or just watch it unfold I guess.  I can’t be a bandwagon fan either.  That’s what swapping sides feels like tp me. But it does suck to feel like it’s lost before it starts.  

[bladehunter]

3 minutes ago, Holy Moses said:

Reed isn’t on the team. A huge win for the US. 

I hope this ages well.  😅

[MUNIGRIT]

14 minutes ago, khalespace said:

Na finished #3 in the FedEx cup. I think that is a great achievement. 

FedEx cup is a bit of a carnival game. Look at NA's 2 performances on big boy bomber course like they will play at. The USO and PGA NA missed the cuts by a mile. Scottie smashes him accross the board and isn't losing many strokes to him on the greens despite picking up 5plus in approach on NA. Scottie beat Rahm and Poulter this year in match play. Strick knows what he is doing.

[Pops99]

Cheering for Europe, as always. But I think that’s a pretty damn good US team. I wonder how the players honestly feel about no Reed on the team haha. I can’t wait for the RC. 

[johnseg]

I have said before that if I was Sticker I would have went chalk. I haven't liked how many have played down the stretch. Some guys did come around in the playoffs but most hadn't been playing well.

[WannabePaperTiger]

27 minutes ago, MUNIGRIT said:

This whole Na and Kiz hysteria was never even close to a reality. 

If I want to expand on my first post it would be to discuss this specifically. It’s a lot of drama for no reason. Unlike the euros - where you have specific reasons - like tour status - for captains picks the US really doesn’t have reasons for their existence. 

[Titleist99]

21 minutes ago, toypor said:

That just goes to show how contrived, manufactured, and worthless the FedEx Cup is….
 

This is not a knock on Na by any means…. 

Nah, the FedEx Cup shows how players excel when playing for big time cash instead of a worthless little Ryder Cup Exhibition Trophy.....IMO

 

* Make the Ryder Cup for cash.

[loneacer]

Looks like another Euro win.  At least Webb isn't on the team again.

[Bye]

I have to hand it to Stricker, 6 solid picks.

 

Surely Jordan & JT play together, Cantlay & Xander have similar games. The other picks give him some good options.

 

It’s tough if Na, but he probably falls in to the - who do you put him with/slightly high maintenance category.

 

Now, can he find someone who can gel with Bryson in the foursomes or does he leave him out?  I think Bryson playing 3 matches is Stricker best option. 

[KBong]

I'm thinking Stricker must have interrogated Reed to get a truthful answer from Capt America on his health to leave him off the team.

[3whacker]

No matter which way Stricker went someone got left behind, in this case Na and Kisner, I wonder if the vice captains had any input into the decision process ?

[Wasted_Talent]

1 hour ago, JK Ward said:

probably leaving English the odd man out. 

 

That was never going to happen.  English is playing too good, hits it plenty far and can partner with anyone.

[Wasted_Talent]

11 minutes ago, KBong said:

I'm thinking Stricker must have interrogated Reed to get a truthful answer from Capt America on his health to leave him off the team.

 

Or maybe Stricker realized he has been playing like dung.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

53 minutes ago, capking said:

Is that why Stricker said he didn’t pick him? Reed not being 100% 

Stricker said while his RC play is very good his health and lack of recent play was a strong influence to select others.