Asked to move ball not on green

[GLF4EVR]

I unfortunately pull a lot of call, so quite often have to have a phone on me while playing.

 

Back to @cros0x original post about being asked to mark a ball not on the green.  I have experienced this many years ago in a regional high school tournament.  First time the guy asked me, I had to wonder how my ball could have been in his way at all.  Second time he asked I realized he was trying to play head games.  I was a freshman & this guy if I remember was a junior (plus bigger than me & getting beaten by me).  The third time he asked, I grabbed my bag & walked back behind him.  He asked what I was doing.  I told him if he was worried about hitting my ball, I am worried he might hit me so I am getting out of the way.  Last time he did it & his game did not improve.  The other two guys about wet their pants from laughing.

 

Heck try that.  Back then it really seemed to get the point across.

[antip]

4 hours ago, 2bGood said:

Out of about 60 guys I play with I only know one that keeps score on his phone (but lots who carry them). I think one issue is the phone does not lend itself well to tracking group betting action. 

I'd be confident someone is working on that app....

[TerpFangolfer]

Yeah, pretty much all the comps I have played in the last year have gone to electronic (i.e. phone App) scoring. At least one of the group must have one. I often do the scoring, I don't mind and what I have found, with my phone on silent and in the scoring App, I don't even see text or call notifications and I just don't exit out of the scoring app so I don't get distracted.

Doesn't really affect me - but also, when I'm out playing fun golf I'm a "no phone' guy, but several of my buddies aren't and are often taking calls while we are out playing and it does kind of annoy me 

[2bGood]

13 hours ago, antip said:

I'd be confident someone is working on that app....

I am sure there is one out there already that tracks certain games, but I can't see one coming anytime soon that tracks multiple games.

 

Regardless a pencil and card seem to do the job just fine, and frankly keeping track of games and scores and doing a bit a math is good for your brain health. 

 

I am actually pretty shocked at how little math awareness some younger people have. They blindly plug numbers into computers and don't really understand the results. Even when logic dictates the number they got is wrong - they insist it has to be right because the computer said it was. 

[rogolf]

1 hour ago, 2bGood said:

I am sure there is one out there already that tracks certain games, but I can't see one coming anytime soon that tracks multiple games.

 

Regardless a pencil and card seem to do the job just fine, and frankly keeping track of games and scores and doing a bit a math is good for your brain health. 

 

I am actually pretty shocked at how little math awareness some younger people have. They blindly plug numbers into computers and don't really understand the results. Even when logic dictates the number they got is wrong - they insist it has to be right because the computer said it was. 

GIGO - garbage in, gospel out.

[SNIPERBBB]

2 hours ago, 2bGood said:

I am sure there is one out there already that tracks certain games, but I can't see one coming anytime soon that tracks multiple games.

 

Regardless a pencil and card seem to do the job just fine, and frankly keeping track of games and scores and doing a bit a math is good for your brain health. 

 

I am actually pretty shocked at how little math awareness some younger people have. They blindly plug numbers into computers and don't really understand the results. Even when logic dictates the number they got is wrong - they insist it has to be right because the computer said it was. 

There's kids that can't add up 9 hole scores with a calculator! I've unfortunately played in events with said kids that held up the results for over a half hour because of it.

Edited June 11, 2021 by SNIPERBBB

[dugue4]

7 minutes ago, SNIPERBBB said:

There's kids that can't add up 9 hole scores with a calculator! I've unfortunately played in events with said kids that held up the results for over a half hour because of it.

Give them a break, they only have 10 fingers.😏

 

 

I see it all the time in the classroom... from juniors and seniors...

Edited June 11, 2021 by dugue4

[rp4golf]

2 hours ago, 2bGood said:

I am actually pretty shocked at how little math awareness some younger people have. They blindly plug numbers into computers and don't really understand the results. Even when logic dictates the number they got is wrong - they insist it has to be right because the computer said it was. 

 

14 minutes ago, SNIPERBBB said:

There's kids that can't add up 9 hole scores with a calculator! I've unfortunately played in events with said kids that held up the results for over a half hour because of it.

 

6 minutes ago, dugue4 said:

Give them a break, they only have 10 fingers.

 

 

I see it all the time in the classroom... from juniors and seniors...

My favorite is getting change back at the drive-thru window.
My total for lunch is $7.83. So I hand the young person at the window a $10 bill, three ones, and 8 cents ... so I can get $5.25 (a $5 bill and a quarter), and they look at me just baffled.
I've actually had them hand me back the three ones and 8 cents, and then make change from the $10 bill.

But let's not be so fast to blame the kids.
This trend started decades ago, probably as far back as the first pocket calculators in the 70s.
I went back to college 30 years ago, and even then I was shocked at how few kids back then could do basic addition and subtraction in their heads, let alone be able to solve a basic algebraic equation on paper.
And now, you have a whole generation that grew up with computers and can barely write.

 

[SNIPERBBB]

Blame it on the SAW math teachers.  I know it was done to prevent reliance on calculators but what it really did was you didn't train your brain to do math in your head because you got punished for it. 90s on elementary school here we did a lot of timed math quizzes.  So we got that ability.

 

When I got to high school and we were allowed to have TI-83 calculators for precalc/trig math I wrote complicated math programs on said TI-83 that spit the SAW parts out so I just had to copy it. I had better things to do like teaching myself how to program in C/C++ than working out math questions I could already do in my head. Didn't need anymore practice.

[Mr. Bean]

4 hours ago, 2bGood said:

I am sure there is one out there already that tracks certain games, but I can't see one coming anytime soon that tracks multiple games.

 

 

I wonder if this would do the job for you and your buddies:

 

www.golfgamebook.com

[2bGood]

12 hours ago, Mr. Bean said:

 

I wonder if this would do the job for you and your buddies:

 

www.golfgamebook.com

Not event close. It tracks petty basic games but nothing as 'complex' as we play.